Asus vs ASRock

[PrometheusAMD]

which better >>Asus sabertooth r2.0 or
ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Professional ?!

 

[Maban]

You haven't given us any criteria to offer any accurate advice. Give us specific things to compare.

 

[drdeathx]

I personally don't like the Saber, go for the Fatal1ty. CPU performance is the same on both

 

[PrometheusAMD]

You haven't given us any criteria to offer any accurate advice. Give us specific things to compare.

from the side of ocing and best performance and here's another 1 >> ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z so what's better ?!

 

[Jack1n]

I would go with the formula before the sabertooth but i also think the Fatal1ty would be the best.

 

[Mathragh]

Why do you guys think the sabertooth is bad btw? Not trying to start a flamewar, but as I'm supposedly the (uptill now) only owner of a Sabertooth in this thread I'm curious whether I'm missing something.

From personal experience, I can say that the sabertooth is absolutely fine, with loads of control, and it allowed me to push over 300W through my CPU without a problem.

 

[de.das.dude]

ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Professional

things dont look good for Asus atm.

 

[d1nky]

they've stopped manufacturing the fatality. so they will be a rare thing soon enough!

and I own a fatality, its beasty! has everything the high end boards has to offer but at a lower price.

I got mine for £140 and the crosshair was about £180

if youre going to xfire tho (and its a 3slot card) I would pick something else for slot spacing.


a few things to note on the fatality - LLC is weird compared to others, sometimes gets stuck in boot loops when it crashes (clear cmos for this), youll need a good bit of cooling on the vrm circuit as it cuts phases when too hot (45mins approx.), fan control in bios is stupid, max voltage fluctuation ive had is 0.048v, get an effin great quality psu for it, if you get a tower heatsink make sure it clears vrm heatsink and doesn't obstruct mem. (mine gets in the way of two slots), with a tower heatsink its very difficult to put fan connectors on as theyre directly behind the sink, I have to take mobo out to do anything in this case. so another good point is to get a good case for it.

if youre buying this for just purely overclocking, me personally id get the crosshair. if youre putting an 8350 or similar on it, buy a watercooler!

the box it came in is cool, they got rid of the guys face in bios, with win8 and an ssd it can boot in seconds and get in to a game. best I had was like 4 seconds from beep. don't bother with their oc utility f-stream.

if ya using many fans, don't put them on the board, drains power like a mofo. (I got like 8fans on my mobo headers lol)


its great fun when ya have an fx4100 on it, easy to oc and kicks out some good benches. id love to try this with LN2 or something.

 

[drdeathx]

from the side of ocing and best performance and here's another 1 >> ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z so what's better ?!

All med and high Z77 boards overclock essentially the same(within 100MHz) and CPU performance is the same

 

[Maban]

All med and high Z77 boards overclock essentially the same(within 100MHz) and CPU performance is the same

Not exactly useful information when dealing with AMD.

 

[d1nky]

^^^ LOL

saying all that, a few people on another forum have said theyre slightly disappointed goin from an sabertooth to this board as the bios isn't quite good enough.

but there are people that prefer it!


its a matter of requirements, which you wasn't clear about tbh

 

[Jstn7477]

they've stopped manufacturing the fatality. so they will be a rare thing soon enough!

and I own a fatality, its beasty! has everything the high end boards has to offer but at a lower price.

I got mine for £140 and the crosshair was about £180

if youre going to xfire tho (and its a 3slot card) I would pick something else for slot spacing.


a few things to note on the fatality - LLC is weird compared to others, sometimes gets stuck in boot loops when it crashes (clear cmos for this), youll need a good bit of cooling on the vrm circuit as it cuts phases when too hot (45mins approx.), fan control in bios is stupid, max voltage fluctuation ive had is 0.048v, get an effin great quality psu for it, if you get a tower heatsink make sure it clears vrm heatsink and doesn't obstruct mem. (mine gets in the way of two slots), with a tower heatsink its very difficult to put fan connectors on as theyre directly behind the sink, I have to take mobo out to do anything in this case. so another good point is to get a good case for it.

if youre buying this for just purely overclocking, me personally id get the crosshair. if youre putting an 8350 or similar on it, buy a watercooler!

the box it came in is cool, they got rid of the guys face in bios, with win8 and an ssd it can boot in seconds and get in to a game. best I had was like 4 seconds from beep. don't bother with their oc utility f-stream.

if ya using many fans, don't put them on the board, drains power like a mofo. (I got like 8fans on my mobo headers lol)


its great fun when ya have an fx4100 on it, easy to oc and kicks out some good benches. id love to try this with LN2 or something.

The only way I got proper voltages on my 990FX Extreme4 and FX-8150 was by completely disabling LLC. Any other setting results in nearly 150mV droop under load.

 

[d1nky]

nah this is kind of backwards on here.

disabled = massive overvoltage and fluctuation
25% = more or less same voltage as set. 0.040 avg. flux
50% = vdroop of about 50+mv
75% = greater vdroop
100% = crazy vdroop


and before anyone kindly suggests you don't know real volts without multimeter, I know. this is all os recorded, and everyone else that has this board reports the same.

 

[buildzoid]

I've seen tests of Asrock boards showing absolutely terrible voltage control so if you want to overclock then go for the saber since ASUS has some of the best VRM designs available on the market.

 

[Mathragh]

I've seen tests of Asrock boards showing absolutely terrible voltage control so if you want to overclock then go for the saber since ASUS has some of the best VRM designs available on the market.

+this. I never have any problems with voltages. I've got the LLC on very high, and voltages are rock solid, hardly any change between idle and load, even at very high poweruse.

 

[Tatty_Two]

As has been said, they are fairly equal and looking at UK prices around the same price point, arguably you get better value for money from the Asus surprisingly, as it comes with an extra PCI-E socket, more USB3 and you get an old fashioned PCI slot also, of course if you don't need them it means less.

 

[drdeathx]

Not exactly useful information when dealing with AMD.

My bad..... CPU performance is equal with AMD also clock for clock

 

[drdeathx]

I've seen tests of Asrock boards showing absolutely terrible voltage control so if you want to overclock then go for the saber since ASUS has some of the best VRM designs available on the market.

Actually ASRock uses high quality capacitors and VRM's. When I tested the Fatal1ty, it overclocked as well as any Asus board........

 

[erocker]

Buy what costs less. Every board will pretty much do what you want. They all have a lot of bios options and overclocking options. Unless you have a hard time reading English, I would suggest that you read some reviews since "better" is a subjective term in some ways.

 

[pigulici]

+1 for sabertooth,I have one, I like the bios(lot of options), lot of sensors and it feel very stable, but I don't do OC, so at this field I think best will be a formula...

 

[drdeathx]

Buy what costs less. Every board will pretty much do what you want. They all have a lot of bios options and overclocking options. Unless you have a hard time reading English, I would suggest that you read some reviews since "better" is a subjective term in some ways.

+1 to the Rock. Just make sure you have enough PCIE slots and sata ports. Buying these high end boards if your not going to use all the extras is worthless. CPU performance on both AMD and Intel is the same core for core. The GPU speeds may be slightly different but negligable as Sata and USB 3.0 speeds. The main difference on high end boards is Power Phase and to be truthfull, middle of the line boards overclock within about 100 MHz of higher end boards. yes, higher end boards have more in depth bios adjustments but unless your doing extreme overclocking, a decent mid priced board is fine for 95% of overclockers. Finally, high end boards look nice, have many more add on features for software and bios but most is overkill.

 

[AlienIsGOD]

Buying these high end boards if your not going to use all the extras is worthless.

unless you score crazy newegg deals, @$94 i couldn't find anything decent until i stumbled upon my EVGA board at a crazy $255 off in savings.

But yea, normally one should only get what they need/may need in the future. My AsRock board only has 1 pci-e slot, but i never intended to run multi gpu with a i5 2400 so that board has everything i need for a living room PC while also being hooked up to my 40" LCD.

 

[drdeathx]

unless you score crazy newegg deals, @$94 i couldn't find anything decent until i stumbled upon my EVGA board at a crazy $255 off in savings.

But yea, normally one should only get what they need/may need in the future. My AsRock board only has 1 pci-e slot, but i never intended to run multi gpu with a i5 2400 so that board has everything i need for a living room PC while also being hooked up to my 40" LCD.

I have never tested an EVGA board. I have seen mixed feelings from EVGA

 

[d1nky]

have ya seen the size of the vrms on the fatality, hummmmungggoussss! and gold caps from the CAPital of capicitors!

but yea the sabertooth is cheaper again on average, but the gen3 is about the same.

anyways the fatality is gone and stocks are disappearing....

 

[AlienIsGOD]

I have never tested an EVGA board. I have seen mixed feelings from EVGA

i wouldnt have cared what brand it was, im always on the lookout for deals/steals and that couldnt be beat. I was actually looking at FM2 boards that day as i WAS building a rig for my kid, the evga at that price changed everything and my daughter now uses the i5 2400/hd 7770 rig and I have a 3570K/7870 rig