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"A few people who saw just leaked performance data on ATI's soon to launch Radeon HD 5870 have told Fudzilla that they are absolutely confident that GT300 will win over Radeon HD 5870.
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It says nothing about nvidia saying so, just says people.
 

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"A few people who saw just leaked performance data on ATI's soon to launch Radeon HD 5870 have told Fudzilla that they are absolutely confident that GT300 will win over Radeon HD 5870."

It says nothing about nvidia saying so, just says people.

At what price point?

From what Charlie Demerjian is reporting, it looks like GT300 will be in stores as plentiful if not less than the GTX295 and it will also be late... a lot late... not much point in having the fastest card around when we can only afford 200's.

Just saying knowing that as much as he hates nvidia's GUT, from what he reported about Evergreen he was right and maybe his sources aren't wrong about nvidia either!

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/09/15/nvidia-gt300-yeilds-under-2/
 
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At what price point?

From what Charlie Demerjian is reporting, it looks like GT300 will be in stores as plentiful if not less than the GTX295 and it will also be late... a lot late... not much point in having the fastest card around when we can only afford 200's.

Just saying knowing that as much as he hates nvidia's GUT, from what he reported about Evergreen he was right and maybe his sources aren't wrong about nvidia either!

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/09/15/nvidia-gt300-yeilds-under-2/
Or maybe, considering all the AMD advertising on that web, he does have some hand with AMD and thus has info about AMD, but not necessarily about Nvidia?

More so, now that we are talking about unreliable sources and wide open liars, may I become one for a moment and say that my sources tell me that the reason that Demerjian left the INQ and made his own site, was to be able to more openly bash Nvidia at pleasure while at the same time broadly getting money from AMD in advertising form?

Source.

Read paragraph 2 on the link to understand the link.

Source.
 
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Hm... Looking pretty grim on my side of it... I'm still holding out though, maybe they can cleanup the size and power consumption, maybe a lower end card in the same series.
 
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On topic. I don't quite understand the purpose of this Leak Collection. I find it mostly sadistic TBH. Informative and helpful for the lazy readers, but sadistic for most of us, enthusiasts.

We know that Wizzard has the card and is under NDA, and some posts by btarunr suggests he got some info from him too. So I find very sadistic to mantain and promote the uncertainty in this way. Very, very sadistic. You suckers. :p
 

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We're giving you a "beta". Works, but doesn't come with warranties.
 
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On topic. I don't quite understand the purpose of this Leak Collection. I find it mostly sadistic TBH. Informative and helpful for the lazy readers, but sadistic for most of us, enthusiasts.

We know that Wizzard has the card and is under NDA, and some posts by btarunr suggests he got some info from him too. So I find very sadistic to mantain and promote the uncertainty in this way. Very, very sadistic. You suckers. :p
because if i sign an nda i'll respect it. i thought you'd appreciate the time we spent putting this together so it's easier for people to find some info, instead of going through thousands of posts.
 
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because if i sign an nda i'll respect it. i thought you'd appreciate the time we spent putting this together so it's easier for people to find some info, instead of going through thousands of posts.
I do, I do. But it hurts. Look at this from our POV. You know what is true and what is not. We don't, it's a long time left until the 23rd. :cry:

BTW you got the card very early this time isn't it? Not the usual behavior from any of them, right?
 
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I do, I do. But it hurts. Look at this from our POV. You know what is true and what is not. We don't, it's a long time left until the 23rd. :cry:

BTW you got the card very early this time isn't it? Not the usual behavior from any of them, right?
i got the card at the press event, like a lot of other journalists, due to the samples rotation some people didnt get a card, but will get one in the next days. it is quite early before nda date, gives me much time to do testing
 

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Damn HD5850 i wonder if there will be any reviews of this card soon :D
 
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w1zzard, bad link here -> http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/3.html

the latest image should be .jpg, not .pg :D
About that page (which is fixed already?). I don't know if I'm looking too much into the architecture schematics, but all of them seem to represent that the ROPs are not directly tied to the L2 cache? I suppose that this representation was made to make it clear that both:

a. the chip can now output to main memory (vram) without the need to go through thr render outputs (ROPs).

b. that the render outputs now can fetch data (back and forth) directly from the crossbar, without the need to go through the L2, which would be a slower process.

But I supose that those squematics don't specifically mean that the ROPs can't comunicate with L2 except through Vram or Crossbar, right?
 

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i'm not sure if those diagrams accurately represent what you are asking

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/images/arch7.jpg
would suggest that l2 doesnt sit between mc and memory

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/images/arch4.jpg
is the L shaped purple stuff cache too? so that would imply there is some sort of cache between mc and memory ?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/images/arch6.jpg
here it says that there is l2 cache between mc and xbar

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/images/arch8.jpg
export buffer here = good, but the fetch unit has to go through l2 apparently ?
 
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Thanks to W1zzard for respecting the NDA, if more people broke they would remove it.

I think getting some upfront information that can be released is great, as you saw in my previous post, it doesn't look like something I am interested in any longer unless they do some fairly dramatic changes to it by the point of it's release, I would not have known this before this was up.

Yes it's a tease to some, but we all live with it, I honestly doubt it's easy for W1zzard to hold back all the details on how it actually performs to say ya guys this is crazy, or no guys as usual what you have found is a bunch of nonsense.
 
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i'm not sure if those diagrams accurately represent what you are asking

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/images/arch7.jpg
would suggest that l2 doesnt sit between mc and memory

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/images/arch4.jpg
is the L shaped purple stuff cache too? so that would imply there is some sort of cache between mc and memory ?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/images/arch6.jpg
here it says that there is l2 cache between mc and xbar

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_5000_Leaks/images/arch8.jpg
export buffer here = good, but the fetch unit has to go through l2 apparently ?
Nah. It seems the architecture didn't change from RV770, and it seems that I never paid too much attention to RV770 architecture in that part.

The L shaped things are the Z/stencil and color caches that you can see here: http://www.madboxpc.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/arch_rv770.jpg

L2 was apparently never meant as an interface cache between memory, ROPs, and SIMD units, apparently it just feeds the SIMD units, so that leaves me with the question about if RV870 is able to do the a. and b. supositions that I made above.

Edited from here: And about my coment about the sadism of this article, I was just trying to make a sarcastic joke. (I'm bad at it I know) I never expected nor I was asking Wiz to break the NDA. After Bta's first response I would have posted something like "Ouch yeah, come on hit me baby, you know that I like it. Auu! Yeah, right there. Aa!! Ah! AAAAAAAAAHHhahHAHH!" if that couldn't be taken as spam.
 
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At what price point?

From what Charlie Demerjian is reporting, it looks like GT300 will be in stores as plentiful if not less than the GTX295 and it will also be late... a lot late... not much point in having the fastest card around when we can only afford 200's.

Just saying knowing that as much as he hates nvidia's GUT, from what he reported about Evergreen he was right and maybe his sources aren't wrong about nvidia either!

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/09/15/nvidia-gt300-yeilds-under-2/

I've no idea I was quoting a webpage someone linked to on the previous page, it was aimed at them.
 
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I have 2x256 Corsair XMS BH-5...
 

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And about my coment about the sadism of this article, I was just trying to make a sarcastic joke. (I'm bad at it I know) I never expected nor I was asking Wiz to break the NDA. After Bta's first response I would have posted something like "Ouch yeah, come on hit me baby, you know that I like it. Auu! Yeah, right there. Aa!! Ah! AAAAAAAAAHHhahHAHH!" if that couldn't be taken as spam.
lol that's so something a(nother) Spanish/Basque guy who used to post here would say. He was an interesting fellow.
 
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#48
I wish I had the balls to ask my wife if I can buy 24 30" monitors and 4 5870's!!! :laugh:

sounds like it is going to be a pretty decent card. :)