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Is just me that thinks full size ATX is pointless in new motherboards of the new sockets? Any know good desktop horizonal case for M-ATX
 
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Have you seen the new AM5 chipset? The number of things incorporated in the full package is huge. Good luck trying to cram that on a small board.

Features you see as pointless, are a must for some people.
 
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Any know good desktop horizonal case for M-ATX?
My go-to for a horizontal case is either Silverstone (lots of mATX options) or Fractal Node 202 (mITX only)

I'm using a very old Silverstone GD04 in a left-to-right cooling configuration, having thrown out the disk bays it's a happy home to a passively-cooled Ryzen5 3600XT and RTX 3060 12GB and bliends in perfectly with my surround receiver in the short-depth console unit under my TV and center channel.

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Depends what hardware you're building around
The size of gpu's now days it's tough to use smaller cases because of bad air flow
Could just scrap a case all together and go mini test bench.

Here's one with cpu on water but could be all air and probably will soon and just cpu cooler fans, no case or flow needed.
 

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Hi,
Depends what hardware you're building around
The size of gpu's now days it's tough to use smaller cases because of bad air flow
Could just scrap a case all together and go mini test bench.

Here's one with cpu on water but could be all air and probably will soon and just cpu cooler fans, no case or flow needed.
I like the Expansionability of ATX/EATX/WSATX/ATXL that MATX and itx cant hold a candle to. (Yes I use Sound cards, drive controllers, network controllers)
 
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I like the Expansionability of ATX/EATX/WSATX/ATXL that MATX and itx cant hold a candle to. (Yes I use Sound cards, drive controllers, network controllers)
Hi,
Another good thing about atx test benches besides the much smaller footprint they can handle all of those boards
Not sure about itx since I've never used one but that I know of they would only use a fraction of the stand offs on atx case or test bench use but are the same spread distance.
 
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My go-to for a horizontal case is either Silverstone (lots of mATX options) or Fractal Node 202 (mITX only)

I'm using a very old Silverstone GD04 in a left-to-right cooling configuration, having thrown out the disk bays it's a happy home to a passively-cooled Ryzen5 3600XT and RTX 3060 12GB and bliends in perfectly with my surround receiver in the short-depth console unit under my TV and center channel.

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I have almost the same Silverstone case mATX GD05b and its been rock solid for 8 years. No complaints

I had a SFX case with a nice PSU Corsair SF750. Sold it, just not enough room everything was crammed in

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I would like to see backside mounted power plugs, slanted memory slots, the option for backside chipsets with the case frame used as a passive heat sink. A small board with 2 m.2 and 1 full size PCIE slot that could have a 90 degree turn so the card could sit on the bottom of the board with its connectors vertical. Keep SATA ports on the edge of the board
 

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I would like to see backside mounted power plugs, slanted memory slots, the option for backside chipsets with the case frame used as a passive heat sink. A small board with 2 m.2 and 1 full size PCIE slot that could have a 90 degree turn so the card could sit on the bottom of the board with its connectors vertical. Keep SATA ports on the edge of the board
I remember SIMMs being that way
 
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Have you seen the new AM5 chipset? The number of things incorporated in the full package is huge. Good luck trying to cram that on a small board.

Features you see as pointless, are a must for some people.
On front page asrock high end AM5 board has 2 pci-e slots. m-atx has 4 and atx has 7.
I'm not talking about high End socket!
 
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On front page asrock high end AM5 board has 2 pci-e slots. how am I a troll? m-atx has 4 and atx has 7. Retard much?
I'm not talking about high End socket!
ok so lets see that again. For a basic (sorta basic) "aio" gaming build, you take a matx mobo (that can physically have 4 expansion slots max), and you put a triple slot (standard nowadays) graphics card. So at the very best you are left with only one expansion slot. And since you would likely to also get a smaller matx case in that situation, you would end up with a messy airflow. All that to just get a tower that is just 20% smaller than a standard atx one. Also its easier for manufacturers to fit better vrm circuitry with minimal compromises when they have the necessary space for that.

Itx builds (with a real gpu), that are the size of a shoe box - definitely yes, cool stuff. But matx builds which are slighty smaller than atx but with all the mentioned sacrifices - meh, its not worth it.
 
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