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Audio popping when fast forward/start and stop, or clicking windows sound icon

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Hello

I have a VERY peculiar problem. Whenever i start or stop a sound, a popping sound occurs. It happens when i click the windows audio icon in right bottom corner and then click outside it, so the sound abruptly ends. It produce a fairly loud popping sound. Same when i fast forward any audio track in either windows video player or in chrome. There's also crackling when i move sound slider in youtube in chrome, and when i move audio slider in windows[couldn't catch it on recording somehow]. This of course happens when i play sound. I don't have popping or crackling otherwise.

Here are the videos:
Windows icon:
https://streamable.com/iozb2i
Windows media player:
https://streamable.com/6yn6xv
Chrome and youtube[relive has problem capturing the video, disregard this]:
https://streamable.com/xv7lqy
Crackling when i change volume slider in youtube:
https://streamable.com/tdvg47

Audio is fine when it starts playing, no crackles and popping, but any start or stop, abrupt sound changes, like new audio starting playing can produce popping -for example this video produce popping sound whenever audio and new scene is played

I've tested this on two other PCs -laptop and stationary PC and same thing is happening! . Things that are common between these PCs are Windows 10 1909 installation, and all these PCs use SSD. Other than that, everything is completely different hardware wise-mobo, cpu, ram, gpu etc... They use realtek integrated sound card, my main PC uses ALC 892, the other PC ALC 887, and laptop also uses HD Audio driver from Dell. What's funnier, i get the same popping when i fast forward youtube on my android phone! I've tested three headsets and they also have popping. PCs are properly grounded[at least i know that my PC is properly grounded, im not so sure about others, i don't think this could cause issue? and what about phone?].I'm confident this is not a hardware issue.

On my main PC I've tested several scenarios:
Clean windows 10 install without internet connection: popping
Clean windows 10 with internet connection and updated with newest Microsoft drivers: popping
Clean windows install with no internet connection, updated with newest realtek drivers from my motherboard vendor site: popping
I've tried installing generic realtek drivers 2.82 but also had popping.
I've also tested without hardware acceleration and there's the same popping in chrome. I don't know how to disable acceleration in windows though.

My main pc:
Ryzen 3600
2x8GB Patriot Steel 3600 CL17
B450M Mortar Max
RX 5700 XT Gigabyte Gaming OC
Corsair RMx 850

Other PC:
i5 4670
2x4GB 1600
Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H
GTX 660
XFX 550W

Laptop is Dell Inspiron N5010
Phone is Redmi Note 7.

Headphones are:
Sound magic e10
Sennheiser HD201
Pioneer SEM521

I'm seriously at a loss here. Is this normal? Maybe im overreacting to something that other people have? Do i need external sound card/DAC? Maybe there's some EMI/unfiltered voltage on my power supply in house? Some kind of voltage jump in audio system, some kind of short circuit? But how this can happen across three systems, and my phone[which was not charging at the time]. Im thinking this could be an issue with either fading of audio or audio going into sleep abruptly.

I've noticed that even a stock windows 10 installation without internet connection has realtek drivers installed. So they are installed when installing windows itself. Maybe they are the culprit? How could i test this, because when i uninstall them i will get no audio? I would need some other driver that is not realtek and still works.

On a side note, my main PC has more static when using microphone then the rest. What could be the issue here? I thought newer motherboard would have better audio.
 
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I hear no popping in those videos.
Try the laptop on battery... if there is popping, still, then it ain't the power.
Are you using powered speakers? Might be the speaker's amp, some other internal part, or the connection.
 
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I hear no popping in those videos.
Try the laptop on battery... if there is popping, still, then it ain't the power.
Are you using powered speakers? Might be the speaker's amp, some other internal part, or the connection.
Wait, you don't hear any popping in all of these streamable videos? Ok that's...weird. As i said i can hear them on my phone. I've checked my other phone -Samsung A40 and there's also popping.

I hear no popping in those videos.
Try the laptop on battery... if there is popping, still, then it ain't the power.
Are you using powered speakers? Might be the speaker's amp, some other internal part, or the connection.

This is how it sound LIVE.
I'm playing the sound from streamable nr.1.

Here's from sound recorder
https://vocaroo.com/hcae7t7ZJHF
And here's video
https://streamable.com/8tkdzf

I have the same popping at every end of windows audio sound. Same for jumping to different parts of video on chrome, or when i switch music tracks in windows media player, or when i abruptly[ctrl alt delete] exit the program playing music.
 

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OK, I went back and cranked up my volume a little.
And, yep, there is a little pop at certain times. It seems to be when you start and stop the audio.
Don't know really what to tell you... maybe, check that your other drivers are up to date, change some mouse settings or whatever devices are being used during the popping dis-connect them if possible.

I tested on my rig, with RealTek ALC899, or the ATI/AMD Bermuda/Ellesmere - High Definition Audio Controller, on Windows 10 Build 18362.19h1_release.190318-1202 and I do not get the pops.
 

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If more than a single PC produces popping, you should check the electricity in your room/home. Lack of grounding, fuse, or a bad device in the local grid.
 
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I think you are overreacting. I see which clicking you are talking about, and it only happens on rapid sound changes (not just in W10, but also on older versions). Many years ago it would've been lag/stuttering instead of clicking. I can reproduce it on my ALC1150, but these are very rare edge cases, unless you have ADHD or something and have an irresistible urge to kill that LMB. Under normal conditions (or if you use multimedia keys for volume adjustment), you won't hear any clicking.
 
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I think you are overreacting. I see which clicking you are talking about, and it only happens on rapid sound changes (not just in W10, but also on older versions). Many years ago it would've been lag/stuttering instead of clicking. I can reproduce it on my ALC1150, but these are very rare edge cases, unless you have ADHD or something and have an irresistible urge to kill that LMB. Under normal conditions (or if you use multimedia keys for volume adjustment), you won't hear any clicking.
Of course the severity of it depends on how abruptly i end the sound, but even with normal usage, like stopping audio, changing different video part i still hear it, albeit not as loud as with that windows audio icon. Here's a video where i can hear the faint pop at 0:41-0:42
Or on this when audio changes from left to right
I can hear multiple slight popping in this video no idea if its caused by my audio[in the beginning up to 1 minute]

Moderator deleted[for marketing purposes probably] this, but it's really frigging noticeable here. There's no gore or something illegal in that url!
0:32 and 0:36. Please don't delete it, i can't find better video for that :( I can cut out the part if necessary.

Regeneration said:
I'm getting the same effect in this video:



When adjusting volume from 0 to 100.
I also get sound distortion at 2:03 in the aformentioned video, like a slight crackling/static. Maybe its the song? Sorry im really paranoid and can't trust my audio :D

Do you still get it here? If i move slider fast enough i get this crackling. I think its crackling less, so it might depend on audio quality? Nertheless it shouldn't crackle.
 
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I'm probably the wrong person to validate this. I can barely notice popping in #1 and #2...
A bear stepped on my ear at Black Dahlia Murders concert :rockout:
 
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I'm probably the wrong person to validate this. I can barely notice popping in #1 and #2...
A bear stepped on my ear at Black Dahlia Murders concert :rockout:
What's your audio rig? Maybe it's less noticeable because you have good setup. As i said, i only have the poor integral sound card from B450M Mortar Max paired with Sennheiser HD201. Hardly an audiophile setup, but i had Audio Technica ATH-500[only slightly better than sennheiser? Don't know it was 2,5x more expensive] before it went out and i also heard the pops.

I've also noticed that the louder the sound[or also higher pitched? or when monotone?] the more noticeable is the popping. Sometimes it doesn't pop when i stop the video, when the sound is low? Can't understand what's happening :/. Like some fade in/fade out problem.
 
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What's your audio rig? Maybe it's less noticeable because you have good setup.
Not really. The only difference is ALC1150 with built-in cheap-o headphone amp on my motherboard (just your typical NE5532) and beat-up HD465 with the exact same drivers as yours (tbh, HD201 sounds better, I have an old pair in the office). I think it's just a difference in habits. I change volume on my KB, I use KB in youtube and twitch most of the time, and for music I use foobar, which has a nice fading effect which prevents sound from popping on rewind or rapid volume change. Basically, I only touch my mouse when I play games.
 
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Not really. The only difference is ALC1150 with built-in cheap-o headphone amp on my motherboard (just your typical NE5532) and beat-up HD465 with the exact same drivers as yours (tbh, HD201 sounds better, I have an old pair in the office). I think it's just a difference in habits. I change volume on my KB, I use KB in youtube and twitch most of the time, and for music I use foobar, which has a nice fading effect which prevents sound from popping on rewind or rapid volume change. Basically, I only touch my mouse when I play games.
Found the good video to illustrate the effect. Open any youtube video on chrome, and then open this video
Before 0:13 or when the guy touches the other big knob, when you use return button to return to the earlier site, you barely get pop. But when the loud/high frequency sound comes[when the guy dial up that big knob] when you return to the earlier site, you will get pop that is much more noticeable. But i also tested various tones like 25hz[
], 150hz, 5khz and 10khz[
]. Low frequency tones produced more pop. And universally with higher system/chrome volume slider it produced larger pop. So it depends both on frequency[lower=louder pop, which make sense given that lower frequencies have higher energies when you count the amplitude in!] and system volume.
 

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Strange... I'm having the same issue on multiple computers, including a laptop. I'm starting to think it's a windows 10 problem, although I only started noticing it recently.

It gets really annoying when editing audio and it pops at the start.
 

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Hi, I have a new Dell Inspiron 7590 (intel i5 and Realtek Audio), same problem, I confirmed that the low frequency tones produced more pop, any solution?
 

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Hi, I have a new Dell Inspiron 7590 (intel i5 and Realtek Audio), same problem, I confirmed that the low frequency tones produced more pop, any solution?
Have you managed it?tell me please if you solved this,i have the same problem and tried almost everything
 

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Maybe I have found a possible solution: see this post

Using regedit could be possible to disable the power management of the sound card of our computers/laptops, this solution seems to work for my Dell Inspiron 7590 for the moment.
 
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could be power related, but this in my case has usually led to the problem being with the motherboard. Good luck with it! :toast:
 
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