B450 MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC + R5 2600X

[AlwaysHope]

This is all done with manual OC settings only. No XFR2 used.
Nnot blaming MSI for this, after all it's only on 1.10 bios for this board. But it's proving exceedingly challenging getting this chip p95 or IBT stable above 4.3GHz atm.
Not that I get errors, the system just locks up & complete reboot is only way out of it. Even running the ram at default settings after checking ram with memtest86, then using TPU's memtest64. No errors at defult settings & even when using OC on ram to 2933Mhz 16-17-17 @ 1.35v for dailiy benching & gaming. That's about the max this Kingston Hyper X fury kit - 2400MHz, will run on this board so far.
I know I need better ram & it will be incoming soon.

Another thing weird about this board is dialing in CL17, its tricky as it will be indicated in bios screen when viewed but in windows, all apps report CL18!

However in RMU v1.4, can boot at 4.4GHz no problem & run its inbuilt stability test for the maximum 300 seconds allowed within that software package. But haven't tried yet with 2933MHz OC on ram. The temps don't get anywhere near what IBT or p95 small ffts can produce. So I'm a little understandably skeptical as to how reliable the stability test @ 4.4GHz is with this version of RMU. Although going by how AMD;s Overdrive package worked with stability testing on my old FX-8350, whilst using the rig for daily gaming, I had no issues with stability ever.
So its kinda hard to fault AMD's own software stress testing packages if history is anything to go by imo.

2933MHz OC on ram OK for 10 standard runs but cpu thermals are an issue imo.

Dropping Vcore down to 1.35v @ same CPU clocks, however RAM downclocked to 2733MHz for 10 runs on high setting.

RMU v1.4 @ 4.4GHz, 2733MHz ram.

Another thing that's fun to play with on this board is mouse control in bios for fan settings.

Using the mouse to set graph points produces this on screen, although the actual mouse pointer doesn't show in screenshots.

This is the highest I can run IBT with 10 runs on standard. Ram @ defult to avoid issues with this using this particular software... Any higher CPU clocks such as 4.4GHz results in lockups around 4th-6th run.

More OC testing continues!

 

[AlwaysHope]

Attempted boot @ 4.45GHz, system fails to boot. Jumper reset in order.

 

[AlwaysHope]

Have 16GB Kit Team Group Dark TDGED416G3000MC15ADC01 > Link , currently installed now & carrying out intense Memtest86 (v7.5) ram OC test, then onto Memtest64 (current v1.0)
System had issues booting into windows at default XMP profiles with CL15 @ rated 1.35v (3000MHz).
Even 16-16-16-38 @ 1.36 fails half way through test 1 in Memtest86 @ 3066MHz

CPU@default except XFR2 enabled. Apart from the bios settings listed back in this thread for CPU, Ram settings for voltages & subtimings are at default except Vdimm & main timings.
Really have no interest in running anything beyond 1.36 Vdimm.


Loosening timings to test @ 3066MHz in Memtest86 (17-17-17-38) @ 1.36v, 4 passes complete in Memtest86.

Now the lengthy process of booting into windows & Memtest64 begins....

 

[AlwaysHope]

Trying to get Ryzen DRAM Calculator working but it has issues accepting data for me... author indicates update incoming.
In the mean time, can't get system to boot with anything past 3066MHz atm, either with CL16,17 or 18....
But good results so far with Memtest64 running for 4 hrs today. I'm not one to let the system just run all night or all day if I'm not within close proximity of it. I just don't think it's practical if an error is thrown up & no one's around to reset the system for hours...

Can't get more than 10240MB ram to test with memtest64 as Windows reports it can't allocate it

Thaipoon Burner v1.4 reports this set of RAM has Samsung B die! from all accounts I've read up on with these chips, they should be great OCers if I can get correct data from RDR. Enter into bios, reboot & test.

 

[AlwaysHope]

SPECwpc v2.1.
The longest running benchmark I have ever used. If anyone plans on running it under win 10, I recommend checking it occasionally to let it access the default OS firewall for some of the tests. Also, Python benchmark ran for over an hour on my system because I just went with every test available. An unforgettable experience in PC benchmarking imo.

CPU@default with XFR2 enabled, system as per my system specs.

GeneralOps.

 

[AlwaysHope]

4.6GHz all core boost with XFR2 via custom tuning of bios boost settings in playing FC4.

 

[PerfectWave]

^^ really nice OC

 

[Johan45]

4.6GHz all core boost with XFR2 via custom tuning of bios boost settings in playing FC4.

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That's just a misread, those CPUs don't boost beyond their rated boost bin without altering the BCLK. They also won't run 4.6 GHz on any ambient cooling, at least I hae never seen one that does yet.

 

[eidairaman1]

Ok, got this Kingston HyperX 2400Mhz 8GB kit running stable & by that I mean stable for my needs @ 2933Mhz now with 1.35Vdimm. Tried to keep the main timings reasonably tight.
Well aware how DDR4 bandwidth benefits Zen+ architecture but not all of us have a money tree in the garden. So this is where OC experimenting comes in REAL handy!

Something I have to mention is how much smoother playing my currently fav game is - FO4, seriously without bragging, the difference is like between night & day compared to my old AM3+ platform. That older rig was built in mind with the devs of that games recommended specs for AMD systems too. That is with a FX-9xxx series CPU back in 2015 although I had OC FX-8350 at those levels. That games engine loves cpu power & lots of threads.

Anyway, latest results so far...

PCMark10, Imo good for testing I/O of many aspects in the system. Beat 4K system with 2015 R9 Nano too...lol... & no M.2 storage.

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IBT on very high, 10 runs, CPU stock, RAM@2933Mhz

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Ryzen Master Utility stress test with Kingston HyperX 2400Mhz ram OC to 2933Mhz..

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Cinebench R15.038, all tests.

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Still much much more to learn with this platform...

On ddr3 platform I would reference the ram maker's site for timings of the next fastest kit and apply those with voltage and see if I am stable.

That is how I learned my kit will run trident 2400 timings and volts, i even tightened those up as far as it was stable

 

[oli_ramsay]

I've just bough thee CPU and board, maybe I'm blind but I ca't find how to e XFR2 in the BIOS? I' end XMP for my RAM but my CPU doen't ever reach 4.25GHz+ as it should do. Temps are pretty good (used my NH-D14 from old rig

 

[eidairaman1]

I've just bough thee CPU and board, maybe I'm blind but I ca't find how to e XFR2 in the BIOS? I' end XMP for my RAM but my CPU doen't ever reach 4.25GHz+ as it should do. Temps are pretty good (used my NH-D14 from old rig

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/sense-mi

 

[oli_ramsay]

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/sense-mi

Thanks, I knew I was being a 'tard

 

[eidairaman1]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B450-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC#down-driver&Win10 64

 

[oli_ramsay]

https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/sense-mi

OK how do I dowload/enable this? I've chosen Ryzern Balanced in Power settings, is that I need to do?

Thanks

 

[eidairaman1]

OK how do I dowload/enable this? I've chosen Ryzern Balanced in Power settings, is that I need to do?

Thanks

The motherboard manual has info relating to xfr, but under a different name.

Try Zen Garden here too