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yeah a server with 32 players still has an imense amount of battle field action. im very happy with the game, pulling out my sniper rifle and blowing some heads off mmmm tasty
 
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So what's in the BC2 in particular that you not like

I especially not like the fact that it supports only 32 players , and has no console.

IF there would be a console ,that would be another thing.
-White dot on the lower right corner. :wtf: What in the world is that there for?
-I can't join the TPU server unless a friend is playing. Or else it's grayed out and unselectable
-Crappy dynamic ranges for audio. Someone who is 15' away sound like they are right next to you. Noise near some builds echoes when it shouldn't, etc
-Haven't received my vet status and they've taken down "My Solider" or whatever it's called. No ETA when it will be back up. I was going to use it to make sure my vet status is associated with my account. However, I can't do that because "My Solider" website was taken down.
-Both PB enabled and PB disabled servers are ALL RANKED!!
-Extremely long wait times when refreshing server browser. But if you stop it after 5 seconds all the servers will show up 2 seconds later. Thus negating the unusual long wait. Which appears to be more induced for some reason.
-You need a low ping in order to be competitive or else you're just cannon fodder
-Things like med pads, shocks, ammo box need to be unlocked which is unnecessary and convolute the unlock process.
-The 55 FOV is a complete joke and although you can change it via settings.ini file it should be a slider from within the game with a small window showing you how your FOV will change.

I think I'll stop here for now I don't want to nitpick.



TheLaughingMan,
I sent you an invite. I hope it's still working the next time your in game.


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Looks like server browser if finally allowing me to save servers now. But are still grayed out in my favorites. Gee, with the EU release in a few hours.
 
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-Crappy dynamic ranges for audio. Someone who is 15' away sound like they are right next to you. Noise near some builds echoes when it shouldn't, etc

-The 55 FOV is a complete joke and although you can change it via settings.ini file it should be a slider from within the game with a small window showing you how your FOV will change.
In Beta I got weird audio too, then I changed the audio either to hi-fi or something else and it was fixed. Can't remember anymore, but try another setting.

That 55 vertical FOV = 80 horizontal FOV, it's not that joke. 65 or 90 FOV would be default for widescreen. Borderlands FOV was a joke, that seriously messed my head instantly :p Played Beta fine hours without any discomfort.

Other stuff doesn't sound that nice :/ Well it will still be closer to a week until my copy arrives, but at least I got it cheap! (29€/$39)
 

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Move over boys, and give me more ammo, LOL
 
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In Beta I got weird audio too, then I changed the audio either to hi-fi or something else and it was fixed. Can't remember anymore, but try another setting.

That 55 vertical FOV = 80 horizontal FOV, it's not that joke. 65 or 90 FOV would be default for widescreen. Borderlands FOV was a joke, that seriously messed my head instantly :p Played Beta fine hours without any discomfort.

Other stuff doesn't sound that nice :/ Well it will still be closer to a week until my copy arrives, but at least I got it cheap! (29€/$39)
I've tried them all and they all do the same thing.
 

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-White dot on the lower right corner. :wtf: What in the world is that there for?
-I can't join the TPU server unless a friend is playing. Or else it's grayed out and unselectable
Haven't tried my clan's server or TPU's server, but beyond that there are other server issues that need dealt with. Though tonight was the most stable night yet...well since beta that is!

-Crappy dynamic ranges for audio. Someone who is 15' away sound like they are right next to you. Noise near some builds echoes when it shouldn't, etc
Damn audiophiles! While I can't disagree, I also think this game features much better sound all around than pretty much any shooter from the last few years that I can recall, both in direction (at least for me) and tuning. Sure the sound has been more hollywooded up than most, it also somehow adds to the excitement of gameplay, which to me makes up for a lto of the directional mess...generally there's so much going on in servers I play, if you even hear a guy's footsteps that far away, you're on a boring, 1/4-stocked server (imo). This game's much more fun with more people at least that's how I enjoy it, and for me the sound pays off quite well for audio enjoyment overall. Some games might have better placement, but this game's more about the arcadish-fps experience, so effects are priority, at least to me that's what seems obvious.

-Haven't received my vet status and they've taken down "My Solider" or whatever it's called. No ETA when it will be back up. I was going to use it to make sure my vet status is associated with my account. However, I can't do that because "My Solider" website was taken down.
I did this back when Beta was still on, and it took instantly..though I went from 4 in beta to 2, it seems add-ons don't count. Now in the official release I'm just counted for 2 and 2142.

-Both PB enabled and PB disabled servers are ALL RANKED
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I hope it get's fixed, but not the end of the world yet. But as I've said many times, for the total ignorant screw ups this game features, it's a damn good thing DICE has made this game fun as hell to play, or stuff like this and the rest of your list would denote it as crap in gaming history. It's amazing what the small things like dedicated servers can do...:D

-Extremely long wait times when refreshing server browser. But if you stop it after 5 seconds all the servers will show up 2 seconds later. Thus negating the unusual long wait.
This and the long load times when loading a map either when joining a server or between matches is annoying...didn't notice this with my 260 and Beta...

-You need a low ping in order to be competitive or else you're just cannon fodder
Sorry man, but it's an FPS...NO SH!T?!?!!?!?! I'm fine with 120 or less ping, above that and it's rough. Seems normal to me on that aspect.

-Things like med pads, shocks, ammo box need to be unlocked which is unnecessary and convolute the unlock process.
Yeah, I do agree here, it's kind of annoying, but really doesn't take much to get to the point of unlocking them in any class...so at the same time kind of a moot point, generally the first round or two and you got it, though then you gotta wait to equip it so at least a theoretical 2-3 rounds before you have med pack, ammo, repair tool, etc.


-The 55 FOV is a complete joke and although you can change it via settings.ini file it should be a slider from within the game with a small window showing you how your FOV will change.
Agreed, I found 70 in .ini much better for my 24" 1920x1080 setup and personal preference, but there should be a slider in-game for damn sure, especially by now...as much as I've seen it requested, it would be a nice token to have taken care of this issue already.
I think I'll stop here for now I don't want to nitpick.


You definitely have some solid points for arguments, and while I could nitpick too...even when I'm fighting the game to play, it's been worth it when I can play. At this point I think AvP is less buggy and as much as I forced myself to play that game which I have few issues with, I'd rather deal with the issues to play this game. I skipped MW2, can't play CoD4 or WaW anymore, and really for a modern FPS, this game has promise...but DICE delivered as expected, and while somewhat dissapointing, it's also VERY refreshing in my mind on quite a few aspects that have needed to have been executed for a while and it's kinda sad some of those took this long to happen. So yeah, plenty of good and bad, hell some parts where the Beta was waaaay more stable or enjoyable, and other parts where the official release kept it's word, even so, I'd give the game a solid 8-8.5 overall. And while I've yet to see the perfect game, no such single game will be that "perfect" game for each and every player, this one is the next most enjoyable one for me since BF2 and CoD4 for MP in all honesty.

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Haven't tried my clan's server or TPU's server, but beyond that there are other server issues that need dealt with. Though tonight was the most stable night yet...well since beta that is!
They've released R4 servers but are slow in implementing them. This is something that should have done before release day not a few days ofter release.

Damn audiophiles! While I can't disagree, I also think this game features much better sound all around than pretty much any shooter from the last few years that I can recall, both in direction (at least for me) and tuning. Sure the sound has been more hollywooded up than most, it also somehow adds to the excitement of gameplay, which to me makes up for a lto of the directional mess...generally there's so much going on in servers I play, if you even hear a guy's footsteps that far away, you're on a boring, 1/4-stocked server (imo). This game's much more fun with more people at least that's how I enjoy it, and for me the sound pays off quite well for audio enjoyment overall. Some games might have better placement, but this game's more about the arcadish-fps experience, so effects are priority, at least to me that's what seems obvious.
This is still a problem and has nothing to do with being an audiophile. Audio cues in this game are poor thus making the overall sound quality of the game poor. Being able to hear something doesn't make the audio quality better, that's just a fallacy. The overall presentation of the audio is what makes it great. This is where the game fails.

I did this back when Beta was still on, and it took instantly..though I went from 4 in beta to 2, it seems add-ons don't count. Now in the official release I'm just counted for 2 and 2142.

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I hope it get's fixed, but not the end of the world yet. But as I've said many times, for the total ignorant screw ups this game features, it's a damn good thing DICE has made this game fun as hell to play, or stuff like this and the rest of your list would denote it as crap in gaming history. It's amazing what the small things like dedicated servers can do...:D
This is what I call a bias point of view. Although you are entitled to have one it's clear why you answer in the fashion that you do.


This and the long load times when loading a map either when joining a server or between matches is annoying...didn't notice this with my 260 and Beta...



Sorry man, but it's an FPS...NO SH!T?!?!!?!?! I'm fine with 120 or less ping, above that and it's rough. Seems normal to me on that aspect.
Did you forget that the opposite is true for COD games? Apparently it all depends on net code. Which is what I was pointing out.


Yeah, I do agree here, it's kind of annoying, but really doesn't take much to get to the point of unlocking them in any class...so at the same time kind of a moot point, generally the first round or two and you got it, though then you gotta wait to equip it so at least a theoretical 2-3 rounds before you have med pack, ammo, repair tool, etc.
It's not moot to expect a game to work as intended on release day. Again, another bias point of view. I am not "just happy" the game is finally released. It should be working as intended.



Agreed, I found 70 in .ini much better for my 24" 1920x1080 setup and personal preference, but there should be a slider in-game for damn sure, especially by now...as much as I've seen it requested, it would be a nice token to have taken care of this issue already.
I think I'll stop here for now I don't want to nitpick.
I don't think your nitpicking but painting a broad brush of bias into your opinion of the current situation of the game. It is what it is at this point, a borked game. And it needs to be fixed. But there is no eta on another patch and if they will address all the issues found. There are many more that I've not posted in this thread that IMO need to be fixed.

You definitely have some solid points for arguments, and while I could nitpick too...even when I'm fighting the game to play, it's been worth it when I can play. At this point I think AvP is less buggy and as much as I forced myself to play that game which I have few issues with, I'd rather deal with the issues to play this game. I skipped MW2, can't play CoD4 or WaW anymore, and really for a modern FPS, this game has promise...but DICE delivered as expected, and while somewhat dissapointing, it's also VERY refreshing in my mind on quite a few aspects that have needed to have been executed for a while and it's kinda sad some of those took this long to happen. So yeah, plenty of good and bad, hell some parts where the Beta was waaaay more stable or enjoyable, and other parts where the official release kept it's word, even so, I'd give the game a solid 8-8.5 overall. And while I've yet to see the perfect game, no such single game will be that "perfect" game for each and every player, this one is the next most enjoyable one for me since BF2 and CoD4 for MP in all honesty.

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Your responses clearly come off as eristic, stilted and bias at times. It's as if you took offense of the many issues with this game. More over, the issues that should not be in the game. Overall, the things I've seen and expressed here degrades the game to a 4 out of 10. The potential is there which is why it doesn't get a 0 but if you can't play the game as intended (including all the perks that you should get with the game) do to bugs then giving the game a high score is just being disingenuous.

Sure the game maybe fun to you but it's not the end all be all of the game that can overshadow the many problems found in how it was developed. In order for the game to be enjoyable and not just fun major bugs needs to be fixed ASAP. Let me put it in another way. A cake well presented may look appetizing but if the ingredients put into it are not done properly eating the cake will change your opinion of it. The same applies to this game.
 
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If this game was a cake I'd have sex with it.

Eastcoast.. your personal opinions of this game are extremely depressing. Sure the game isn't perfect but since PC gamers in general have less and less epic shooters to play we might as well enjoy it for what it's worth. $50.. yes only $50 with no monthly payments or contracts. I pay this much for a good steak which only lasts me few hours (from consumption to combustion) so get off your horse and get in the game, or don't. Either way this thread is fail.

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Many of us have encountered problems, but we are still able to enjoy the game. I played the game with other TPUers last night for 3 hours straight, and It didn't crash me. I had some problems joining the servers, a log-off and relog worked for me all the time.

No matter what your opinion are, people, TPUers are playing this game, and all the fun overshadowed all the bugs. Because, i'm seriously having fun with this game.

All the problems so far are related to connection issues, which can be explained quite easily, dedicated servers, and EA has no direct control over them. And in the beta, none of these problems were there.

The cake looks bad, and smell bad, but that doesn't mean it tastes bad. This is a correct way to say it. A game is judged by gameplay, not by bugs. They WILL fix it, bugs are bugs, it's not intentional. If you don't think this is true, just return every single game that have bugs that annoy you so much you can't able to enjoy it.

I rated this game 9.9/10 for MP, the SP is not the best but above average. You don't reduce a video card point reviews because drivers kept crashing the card, the score is N/A when you can't do the test.
 
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If this game was a cake I'd have sex with it.

Eastcoast.. your personal opinions of this game are extremely depressing. Sure the game isn't perfect but since PC gamers in general have less and less epic shooters to play we might as well enjoy it for what it's worth. $50.. yes only $50 with no monthly payments or contracts. I pay this much for a good steak which only lasts me few hours (from consumption to combustion) so get off your horse and get in the game, or don't. Either way this thread is fail.

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So instead of being depressed that the game's insurmountable bugs aren't' fixed yet you blame me for mentioning them. Nice. Folks this is called "shooting the messenger" and he does it in spades here. It's apparent that your problem with what I've posted is that it's true and posting about it upsets you. Sorry, but I think the person asking for my opinion of the game is entitled to my experience with it.





Many of us have encountered problems, but we are still able to enjoy the game. I played the game with other TPUers last night for 3 hours straight, and It didn't crash me. I had some problems joining the servers, a log-off and relog worked for me all the time. No matter what your opinion are, people, TPUers are playing this game, and all the fun overshadowed all the bugs. Because, i'm seriously having fun with this game.
This really has nothing to do what my post. I didn't mention anything about crashes nor did I mention anything about overall opinion of this game. I only presented my own opinion of this game. If you want to reply to me please do so in the context that I've posted, thanks.

Again

All the problems so far are related to connection issues, which can be explained quite easily, dedicated servers, and EA has no direct control over them. And in the beta, none of these problems were there.
This is actually incorrect as there are other problems with this game (for the most part mentioned already).

The cake looks bad, and smell bad, but that doesn't mean it tastes bad. This is a correct way to say it. A game is judged by gameplay, not by bugs. They WILL fix it, bugs are bugs, it's not intentional. If you don't think this is true, just return every single game that have bugs that annoy you so much you can't able to enjoy it.
Wrong analogy, remember they were the ones who enticed players to this game with dedicated server's, etc. So it's the outward appearance that's fine in this case.

I rated this game 9.9/10 for MP, the SP is not the best but above average. You don't reduce a video card point reviews because drivers kept crashing the card, the score is N/A when you can't do the test.
And I still see it as 4 and I can see why there is such disparity here. I wasn't "anticipating this game" as you have. And that's fine in my book. However, it clearly shows bias none the less.
 
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About the only bug I have encountered is the long time to load/rehresh servers. Outside of that, the game is epic, I mean all they had to do was update the formula of 1942...and your set. Don't mess with it if it ain't broke.
 
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My posts are usually not direct to one person's post. That's why I didn't quote anyone or im too lazy to do so.

You said it like they intention put up dedicate servers and then make it buggy like hell. It's not like I'm forcing myself playing a game for hours, and not enjoying it. Because none of them related to gameplay. Again, bugs are bugs, and it will be fixed, you might want to put it down for a month before getting back to this game, or just return it. This is not exactly a bug report thread, 'cause none of us have any power to fix the game.

Questions are understandable, but all your posts seem so depressing in a way that "I don't care about playing this game I just want to find bugs". Anyone who joined in this thread care about playing this game, and if you can't give solutions, it doesn't matter what problems you could found.

Bias or not, the majority of people here ignored the problems. I'm looking at a brighter side of the game and it helps me to enjoy this game, because i'm actually care about playing this game.
 
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My posts are usually not direct to one person's post. That's why I didn't quote anyone or im too lazy to do so.
Really? Perhaps that's why you actually quoted me then replied to each point I made.


You said it like they intention put up dedicate servers and then make it buggy like hell. It's not like I'm forcing myself playing a game for hours, and not enjoying it. Because none of them related to gameplay. Again, bugs are bugs, and it will be fixed, you might want to put it down for a month before getting back to this game, or just return it. This is not exactly a bug report thread, 'cause none of us have any power to fix the game.
My intention was to give him my opinion of the game as asked of me. As for the cake analogy the outward appearance of the game is actually fine. It's when you get into the game are there glaring problems.

Questions are understandable, but all your posts seem so depressing in a way that "I don't care about playing this game I just want to find bugs". Anyone who joined in this thread care about playing this game, and if you can't give solutions, it doesn't matter what problems you could found.

Bias or not, the majority of people here ignored the problems. I'm looking at a brighter side of the game and it helps me to enjoy this game, because i'm actually care about playing this game.
I don't have to ask questions, I was asked what I didn't like about the game. And I gave my view on what I noticed that should be fixed. In the end really has nothing to do with you or the alternative opinion you've formulated simply because I was asked for what I saw that I didn't like. :D
 
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This is your thread, so I thought it in a different way, didn't know someone asked you for your opinions.

IMO, you're missing a great game. Possible best FPS MP game of this year.
 
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Now that's all cleared up where is the patch?
 
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omfg jeez, by reading your posts Eastcoast someone would think the game was unplayable and extremely shitty.

I know some people don't like EA but just give it a rest.
The game runs great, looks great, sounds great, and even plays great.
I would say this is one of the best shooters in the past 5-10 years.
 
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omfg jeez, by reading your posts Eastcoast someone would think the game was unplayable and extremely shitty.

I know some people don't like EA but just give it a rest.
The game runs great, looks great, sounds great, and even plays great.
I would say this is one of the best shooters in the past 5-10 years.
L2R, my post was regarding to a question asked of me. Those are just some of the current issues with the game. As of right now, many can't play the game. Making your comment self defeating ;).
 
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Hope its ok to post this here, if not sorry. Just wanted to let you know my clan also has a server up, its HC, The *CoRe* Clan server.
 
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It's all good. Thanks for the info. I hope they fix the server browser so we can search by server name. As of right now it appears that the main server is down. So we can't do anything for the time being.
 

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omfg jeez, by reading your posts Eastcoast someone would think the game was unplayable and extremely shitty.

I know some people don't like EA but just give it a rest.
The game runs great, looks great, sounds great, and even plays great.
I would say this is one of the best shooters in the past 5-10 years.
I know.

Amongst the masses of gleaming 'reviews', there does seem to be a lot of negativity against the game for some reason. I mean, it is only ever bit as playable as Modern Warfare but with destructable elements that beat Crysis hands-down whilst still performing brilliantly.

The game is incredible...a real mile stone....Don't know what everyone is bitching about.
 
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I know.

Amongst the masses of gleaming 'reviews', there does seem to be a lot of negativity against the game for some reason. I mean, it is only ever bit as playable as Modern Warfare but with destructable elements that beat Crysis hands-down whilst still performing brilliantly.

The game is incredible...a real mile stone....Don't know what everyone is bitching about.
I read your post and thought the same thing.
 
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I read your post and thought the same thing.
I think the gameplay itself is amazing. Most fun I have had since COD4. Runs great, looks great.

Problem is with the networking....(beta was fine, now retail is horrible) Right now I can't even login, because I get "Failed to connect to EA Online"

I think I've played a total of like 5-6 rounds thanks to networking issues. -_-

I've been waiting for this game a long time, and I had high hopes that dedicated servers would make networking a breeze. Problem is DICE seems to have made it too dependent on the master EA server to work properly under huge loads.

I just hope that they get it all sorted out eventually, cause like I said, gameplay and graphics are amazing. Please don't let this turn into the FPS version of Demigod. :(
 
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I couldn't agree with your more on this. There are obvious networking issues and I think you hit the nail on the head that there is way to much dependency to the Master Server(s). Yes, right now they are adding R5 servers and doing other maintenance work. Hopefully that fixes all the of major issues. But time will tell.
 

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The EA backend which controls most EA titles is suffering from an outage at the moment. The EA Online teams are working to find the cause and get servers back online as soon as possible
This just in from EA. Servers down till 3am US Eastern time.
 
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dammit... its my fault guys... i was wishing that someone would go down on me... i diddnt expect it to be EA :D