Batman Returns

[sexpot]

The FT02 brings back memories for sure. That was my first case into performance pc’s. Prior to that one, it was a stock beige Gateway PC from a garage sale.

 

[E-curbi]

Thanking everyone at TPU.

I'll see you amazing and wonderful gents again in 3months after our relocation to safer-higher ground.

Be Well and create so much happiness in the meantime.

A classic full-hour music video from Iceland that still feels so good.

Enjoy Peace and Love!

 

[sexpot]

Take it easy Brucey, moving can be stressful but don't let it get to you! See you when you come back, I'll add updates here as I go so you can have some reading material once you're back in action.

 

[E-curbi]

Take it easy Brucey, moving can be stressful but don't let it get to you! See you when you come back, I'll add updates here as I go so you can have some reading material once you're back in action.

Thank you superbro, I'd really enjoy watching your build. Knowing your extensive PC builder's skill tree lol - totally certain it will be outstanding.

Looks like we're going to have plenty to deal with. Another one?

We only got a week off. sheesh.

Looks like I'll be making a bottled water run today and get plenty of food in the house, here we go again.

 

[sexpot]

Not to make light of your predicament, but I love your file name - lol!

 

[tabascosauz]

Turns out my board, like many AM4 boards when faced with Zen 2 for the first time, just needed a token voltage offset as a form of boot-in-the-ass, if you will. It's finally functioning as intended, boosting as it should, idling as it should, stressing like it should. And what do you know, since Ryzen handles itself better thermally at 3.6-4.4GHz than I can with a manual 4.0, it looks like the D9L was more than sufficient after all.

No matter. The U9S is the man of the house now, and I dare say it looks better with 2 fans than the D9L does, and is quieter too. Team Brown is back in business. Sad to see the C14S go back to Amazon, but it just wasn't going to physically work.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

How's your day been today? I recently updated to 0702 on my X299 Omega after realising it was a thing and tuned my utter weak RAM a bit @ 2666 and got a serious boost in cpu-z single/multi scores! : O!

 

[sexpot]

Nice results HEDT is too awesome with quad channel ram.

New upgrade for the front 180mm fan came in, the AP183 which was just released earlier this year is a definite plus. It can now utilize normal PWM fan headers on boards and controllers. The older AP181 fans should be connected directly to the PSU due to their power draw. Not much else to do now besides wait for the 9900KS.

 

[tabascosauz]

Nice results HEDT is too awesome with quad channel ram.

New upgrade for the front 180mm fan came in, the AP183 which was just released earlier this year is a definite plus. It can now utilize normal PWM fan headers on boards and controllers. The older AP181 fans should be connected directly to the PSU due to their power draw. Not much else to do now besides wait for the 9900KS.

Stop, I can only take so much persuasion before I buy a TJ08T-E

 

[sexpot]

Stop, I can only take so much persuasion before I buy a TJ08T-E

Amazon has the Titanium for under MSRP, do it up!

Amazon.com: SilverStone Technology Micro-ATX Mini-DTX, Mini-ITX Mid Tower Computer Case TJ08T-E Titanium: Gateway

Buy SilverStone Technology Micro-ATX Mini-DTX, Mini-ITX Mid Tower Computer Case TJ08T-E Titanium: Everything Else - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

www.amazon.com

 

[Deleted member 178884]

New upgrade for the front 180mm fan came in, the AP183 which was just released earlier this year is a definite plus. It can now utilize normal PWM fan headers on boards and controllers. The older AP181 fans should be connected directly to the PSU due to their power draw. Not much else to do now besides wait for the 9900KS.

Wow awesome buy - those air perpetrators are beasts, can't wait to upgrade my cooling then I might try some.

 

[tabascosauz]

I went and ordered it. Curse you

I don't know if I want to stick with the AP181 or swap it out for an IndustrialPPC A14.

 

[sexpot]

I went and ordered it. Curse you

I don't know if I want to stick with the AP181 or swap it out for an IndustrialPPC A14.

Do you know if the 140mm frame will fit into the existing AP181 mounting points? If not, maybe look into an adapter if they sell one. I didn't want to mess around with connecting directly to the PSU so I went ahead and ordered the AP183.

 

[tabascosauz]

Do you know if the 140mm frame will fit into the existing AP181 mounting points? If not, maybe look into an adapter if they sell one. I didn't want to mess around with connecting directly to the PSU so I went ahead and ordered the AP183.

I think the TJ08B-E supports a 140mm or Air Penetrator in the front? I would assume that means a standard 140 will work.

Linking up the front 140 and the rear 120mm shouldn't be too big a problem. But I do have a billion Noctua Y-splitters, LNAs and extensions lol.

 

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Grabbed a TJ08-E in Titanium - be here Wednesday.

Gonna become the tertiary build, although using prudent economics - the tertiary build is supposed to receive parts passed down from the secondary build (passed down from the primary build) extending the service life and the long term use and value, so without an mATX motherboard to pass down - kinda breaks up that logic completely. lolol

This classic chassis will look amazing just about anywhere in the new house, and I already have plenty of "daily naked open chassis hardware exposure" going on so this little case will be better for out of the home office intermingling with kitties and bunnies, and curious 3years olds.

Only need to pick up a Z370/Z390 mATX mobo, a mid-range board will be fine, something that will run the 8700K at a stable daily 5.2Ghz, if such a board does indeed exist.

You guys are making me so crazy - Carry On!

 

[tabascosauz]

Titanium bros

Mine's going to be the same, old parts that I don't wanna chuck in the bin. 4790K, H97N, 16GB Fury kit, 500GB 850 EVO, D9L, and a Silverstone 450W SFX. Thank god for Intel's integrated graphics, at least I can still use the PC to do a great many things. Though I am very tempted to switch the builds around and slap a U12A on the 3700X.

Which do you reckon will come out on top, a 2 x A14 C14S, or a 2 x A12 U12A?

 

[sexpot]

Nice, now we're TJ-riplets haha

 

[E-curbi]

Titanium bros

Mine's going to be the same, old parts that I don't wanna chuck in the bin. 4790K, H97N, 16GB Fury kit, 500GB 850 EVO, D9L, and a Silverstone 450W SFX. Thank god for Intel's integrated graphics, at least I can still use the PC to do a great many things. Though I am very tempted to switch the builds around and slap a U12A on the 3700X.

Which do you reckon will come out on top, a 2 x A14 C14S, or a 2 x A12 U12A?

See, now you can keep your C14S, woohoo!

I'm also going with a Noctua 140mm PWM Industrial fan for the front intake. I'll make (4) 180mm to 140mm adapters using pure silicon string, and hover that Noctua fan in midair.

...then seal the 40mm gap with Gorilla tape.

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About building into the TJ08:

Long story - long. Was considering this MSI ITX board for the TJ08 build only $165, Great Price! (pic below)

MSI MPG Z390I Gaming Edge AC. It's listed under the Gskill Trident Z Royal Silver 4600Mhz kit's QVL. F4-4600C18D-16GTRS. That's pretty sweet memory capability for an ITX board, and that price, wow.

Then dropping the 8700K into it, buuuut.

Got the 1st Z390 Dark RMA'd motherboard working today just fine. It was a grounding issue with a power strip I was using for testing before moving to the APC UPS battery backup. Symptoms were intermittent unwanted reboots every 30sec 2min 5min also bios flashes were not getting enough power (I'm guessing ) so every new flashing would stall midway and become corrupted, all (3) bioses at one time not working, code 00 - thus the RMA.

Can ya believe it? Went through so much absolute hell with that 1st board.

Anywhoo, such is the strange side of natural happenstance I guess, so I'm going to need the 8700K and be running DUAL Z390 DARKs in the office, oh yea.


So I have no motherboard or CPU for the TJ08 Titanium build.

This MSI ITX board - 4600Mhz ddr4 rated by Gskill. Wow, and way less than $200. Nice looking too, (no dragons).

 

[sexpot]

^ wow power strip who woulda thunk it. I'm still on my original APC power strip from a decade ago. Maybe it's times to replace it?

In other news, we picked up a new washer + dryer set this afternoon. With the new addition to our family, we figured it was time to upgrade the current set that's going on 20 years old now.

 

[E-curbi]

^ wow power strip who woulda thunk it. I'm still on my original APC power strip from a decade ago. Maybe it's times to replace it?

In other news, we picked up a new washer + dryer set this afternoon. With the new addition to our family, we figured it was time to upgrade the current set that's going on 20 years old now.

You don't live in the lightning and power surge capital of the US. Those strips get hit over and again and eventually the capacitors just cannot take another surge or spike.

The APC strip that went bad was only about 24months in use. Of course it could have been a separate issue with that individual unit itself, and not an accumulation of stress on the capacitors.


Here's how to diagnose a bad surge strip grounding issue:

When you turn off power from the rear switch on your PSU, all lights should go out on your motherboard within 2-3seconds. and my 1st Z390 Dark was taking like 20-40seconds.

But wait, I knew that diagnosis, yet thought the extended power off, was a new characteristic of the Z390 Darks since my 2nd Z390 Dark (which works perfectly) even now when it blue screens from a failed OC attempt the 5volt standby white LED will REMAIN ON for freaking 4-5minutes even when you pull the power cord from the wall. So I just thought that was how all the Z390 Darks operated normally, holding power in capacitors for a great length of time??? I didn't know.

I threw out that faulty APC surge strip but only got around to (re)testing Z390 Dark board number 1 today. Silly me.

 

[tabascosauz]

See, now you can keep your C14S, woohoo!

I'm also going with a Noctua 140mm PWM Industrial fan for the front intake. I'll make (4) 180mm to 140mm adapters using pure silicon string, and hover that Noctua fan in midair.

I've already boxed it up and set it up for a return to Amazon I don't think the C14S is for me, there's just not enough clearance on mini-ITX boards to fiddle with all the connectors underneath it. Since the TJ08 gives me plenty of room, I think a U12A is in my future. First things first, I now have a D9L lying around waiting to be put back in.

The TJ08 already supports a 140mm spinner in the front. No need for ghetto modding. With the amount of air that the A14 moves, I don't think you need to seal the gap. I'm probably going to opt for the PPC-2000, don't need the ear blaster 3000 version as the 2000 already moves up to 107CFM.

^ wow power strip who woulda thunk it. I'm still on my original APC power strip from a decade ago. Maybe it's times to replace it?

In other news, we picked up a new washer + dryer set this afternoon. With the new addition to our family, we figured it was time to upgrade the current set that's going on 20 years old now.

I'll do you one better; I've had the same Monster Power bar since 2002. It's never let me down, but I'm thinking this year might be the year for a sine UPS. One of our local transformer stations kept exploding for three days straight in a dazzling display of fireworks, thus giving us ~10,000 homes power outages for three straight nights. At least a UPS will allow me to shut off my PC and charge some devices while I wait.

 

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Nice, now we're TJ-riplets haha

Temjin Trifecta!

(not my pics below)

The TJ08-E Titanium won't arrive until Wednesday. Thanks for the tip Sexpotbro, should be an amazing little chassis to build into.

 

[E-curbi]

How's your day been today? I recently updated to 0702 on my X299 Omega after realising it was a thing and tuned my utter weak RAM a bit @ 2666 and got a serious boost in cpu-z single/multi scores! : O!View attachment 131956

Wow, that multithread score.

My little 6-core cpus can't do that. lol

Any increase in responsiveness lower-latency with bios updates? Does Intel's Turbo Boost Max Tech 3.0 still arrive in Win10 updates? I really loved that software way back using a 6800K. Unfortunately, when I applied the quad-core 3200/14 XMP in bios, my CPU package temps would idle at 52C 55C, ouch. I guess the IMC's for X99 chips just wasn't made for 3200Mhz OR I had a defective 6800K/Rampage V Edition 10 board.

Never found out what was going on, but knew others were having the same issue with the same parts.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Does Intel's Turbo Boost Max Tech 3.0 still arrive in Win10 updates?

Not too sure, never really used it to be honest, I just sync all cores and have done with it

Unfortunately, when I applied the quad-core 3200/14 XMP in bios, my CPU package temps would idle at 52C 55C, ouch. I guess the IMC's for X99 chips just wasn't made for 3200Mhz OR I had a defective 6800K/Rampage V Edition 10 board.

X99 sadly failed at memory overclocking in general, IMC wasn't great either.

 

[sexpot]

X99 sadly failed at memory overclocking in general, IMC wasn't great either.

^Yup, my old x99 topped out at 3400MHz C14. It required a lot of tuning the SA / IO voltages to get HCI Memtest stable at 1000% coverage. Raising those voltages too high definitely effects the CPU temps as well as the Input voltage. Ahh miss the days of quad channel ram overclocking. Was so satisfying once you get it to consistently train and have not the IO / RTL's drift between warm and cold boots.