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Sure 680...if you can find one in stock.

So what's the post-patch deal exactly with the Stinger and IGLA? I think the range has been reduced? But I am having trouble locking on to air vehicles at all now even when they are close. And as far as I know there is not a perk in a heli to keep a lock from initiating in the first place...correct?
 

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680 and call it a day.
If you can find one in stock, 7950 or 7970 (i got mine for $500) fits the bill nicely (absolutely maxed out, hbao and such, I see over 200 fps at times).

So what's the post-patch deal exactly with the Stinger and IGLA? I think the range has been reduced? But I am having trouble locking on to air vehicles at all now even when they are close. And as far as I know there is not a perk in a heli to keep a lock from initiating in the first place...correct?
I think it's a bug, it seems completely random. I've had a Little Bird like 10 ft in front of me I couldn't lock onto once, then I did later. And I've had choppers 100 - 200 yards out where I just sit with them in my scope as they pelt me and kill me. Watched a Viper fly around for about 15 seconds through my IGLA scope and it didn't even start or attempt to lock on. They might be useful if they actually ever locked on.
 

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Sure 680...if you can find one in stock.

So what's the post-patch deal exactly with the Stinger and IGLA? I think the range has been reduced? But I am having trouble locking on to air vehicles at all now even when they are close. And as far as I know there is not a perk in a heli to keep a lock from initiating in the first place...correct?
Its gotta be a bug, The have to be a certain distance to lock on, not too close or not too far away.
 

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Its gotta be a bug, The have to be a certain distance to lock on, not too close or not too far away.
Nah, it's broken, as 1Kurgan1 says. I had both choppers circling overhead above me, and I could only ever lock on to one, no matter the range(both were at the same ranges at times, only one would lock). Next map, same chopper, no lock, different distances, using IGLA. Either dude was hacking, or it's borken.
 
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If you can find one in stock, 7950 or 7970 (i got mine for $500) fits the bill nicely (absolutely maxed out, hbao and such, I see over 200 fps at times).



I think it's a bug, it seems completely random. I've had a Little Bird like 10 ft in front of me I couldn't lock onto once, then I did later. And I've had choppers 100 - 200 yards out where I just sit with them in my scope as they pelt me and kill me. Watched a Viper fly around for about 15 seconds through my IGLA scope and it didn't even start or attempt to lock on. They might be useful if they actually ever locked on.
680 is a far better deal right now man.
 

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Nah, it's broken, as 1Kurgan1 says. I had both choppers circling overhead above me, and I could only ever lock on to one, no matter the range(both were at the same ranges at times, only one would lock). Next map, same chopper, no lock, different distances, using IGLA. Either dude was hacking, or it's borken.
Well thats what I mean, BUG/BROKEN :)
 

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couple of Gigabyte cards for $529 are available locally too, just two in fact. Dunno I'll get to the store before they are gone.
 
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couple of gigabyte cards for $529 are available locally too, just two in fact. Dunno i'll get to the store before they are gone.
go go gadget!
 

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Either dude was hacking, or it's borken.
Damnit. Though they are "rolling out server side fixes for heat-seekers and TV missiles" starting with console today.
 

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680 is a far better deal right now man.
Not saying it isn't, I'm saying a good deal doesn't matter if you can't find one. Also saying the 7900's are overkill by far for anything on the market right now, and on average have a higher OC head room and more vram, oc on 7970 vs oc on most 680's, the gap's not very large. Thats all I'm saying, I wouldn't hold out for a 680 if someone can't find one, all of the top rung cards crush anything out there right now.

Damnit. Though they are "rolling out server side fixes for heat-seekers and TV missiles" starting with console today.
Yeah. With this bug if no one is laser designating, it becomes almost impossible to remove air vehicles. I was on a Kharg like that, instant spawn vehicles and no laser designation, me and Marine ran Stingers and could't leave B, we had to stay at B since it gave us open skies to lock on, problem was, it also gave us no cover, so we mostly just died, but now and then we got a kill.

Another thing I noticed that was weird when I was playing today, I've been killed in the Z-11 by Stingers in one shot numerous times now, everytime I hit one today, it just disabled them and they flew off to repair it, kind of annoying as I waste a rocket forcing them to flare, use another rocket to disable, and now that I have wasted 30 seconds and they have been flying away from me the entire time, I can't lock on for the kill.
 
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well MG36 got nerfed they gave users the heavy barrel but removed the extended mag making it worthless as and LMG because the gun doesnt stabilize untill around the 25-30th round out of 50
 
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well MG36 got nerfed they gave users the heavy barrel but removed the extended mag making it worthless as and LMG because the gun doesnt stabilize untill around the 25-30th round out of 50
Why would you unload a 50 round burst, anyhow? LMGs are made for short bursts.
 
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680 is a far better deal right now man.
They do look like a screamer for the price. I'll probably go 7870 myself. I'd have to fix my own meals if I spent over $400 for a video card.
Especially when I am spending $200 in couple weeks to get my old Plasma 42" fixed. Want it for my bedroom and a gaming Monitor : ))
Come to think of it maybe I should save that money and get my card sooner. How long until the 7870 drops a few bucks. I hear they over
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twitter.com/gustavhalling: "We are rolling out a server-fix for Heat seekers and TV-missiles bugs today. Let me know your experience after the servers are updated."
I thought that was a bug. Rock on! :rockout: At least they identified the bug and fixed it. Thumbs up for that one.
 

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Why would you unload a 50 round burst, anyhow? LMGs are made for short bursts.
in real life yes in Battlefield the gun jumps all over for the first few rounds, the more rounds you fire the more the gun stabilizes with 200 round M60 about 35-40 rounds in the gun stabilizes meaning in many situations such as damavad peak once it stabilizes you can just sweep and kill alot of ppl,

the MG36 had far less recoil and a much better rate of fire, meaning 100 rounds on the MG36 would go by in the same time it took to fire 40 from the M60, (pre patch M60 as it got raised from 550 to 580 rpm)

its a game weapons arent even close to realistic as such LMGs recoil etc gets less after X # of rounds,

100 rounds + little recoil = after 25-30 rounds you get 70 rounds to fire with very little recoil, were talking less recoil then an UMP 45 etc it was a damn good gun, and today alone i ran into 4 situations where the extended mag would have saved my ass.

still prefer my M60 tho, need to use it more so i can get into the top 2000 using said weapon. i slipped from 2096 to 2192 today, as i was messing around with other guns
 

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well MG36 got nerfed they gave users the heavy barrel but removed the extended mag making it worthless as and LMG because the gun doesnt stabilize untill around the 25-30th round out of 50
Yeah I tried it out yesterday for the first time. Tried a few short bursts and it was horrible. Long bursts were ok, but with smaller clips and less damage per bullet, just didn't feel like a good trade off.
 
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its a game weapons arent even close to realistic as such LMGs recoil etc gets less after X # of rounds,

100 rounds + little recoil = after 25-30 rounds you get 70 rounds to fire with very little recoil
I'll be damned, I didn't know that. I don't think I ever fire more that 3-5 rounds at a time unless I get spooked in a room or such. I've give it a shot.
 
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I'll be damned, I didn't know that. I don't think I ever fire more that 3-5 rounds at a time unless I get spooked in a room or such. I've give it a shot.
The problem I have is that after about 30 rounds I die because I missed every shot except 2......and he has like 17% health. :banghead:
 

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yea roughly from what ive seen 2 out of every 3 bullets in an LMG automatically miss, ill defer to Kurgan here a bit but considering with the M60 im ranked in the top 3% playing BF3 on PC and considering my game time as support

83 hours total game time
62 hours as Support
2 hours as Assualt
10 hours In Main Battle tanks

pretty much means ive spent a shit ton of time using LMGs to the point theirs only one other person on tpu whos played support more then me yet has less then half the number of kills using said weapons ;)

as far as recoil goes the MG36 now has a recoil thats harder to control then the M60 or PKP, low magazine capacity, less stopping power, can no longer use foregrip + sights meaning bipod is needed, sadly cant deploy bipod half the time do to fixing the bipod lulz, meaning the guns have lost their status if you want to use an LMG prone + bipod means anyone down range with a rifle will headshot you, deploying on items that are the proper height leaves you exposed, looks like ill be forced to switch to personal defense weapons,

as the IAR 27 is worthless its an M416 but is half as accurate simply due to mag having extra rounds

MG36 got nerfed.

M60 has improved but almost all 7.62mm round weapons just feel weak at close range, the extra stopping power is worthless, anyone whos run into an Engie knows this lol as the needle guns will drop you asap, dropping to deploy bipod gets you killed supressive fire is worthless alot of the time with LMGs, its mitigated by a red dot or flashlight so if your opponent has either pointed at you, your bullets already at around 66% missing or going to supressive status is increased.

and yes i realize LMGs cant be laser accurate weapons blah blah blah, it would just be nice if they actually hit as they should,

supressors have caused a HUGE hit to damage so they are worthless on LMGs now as well

meaning,
Foregrip = junk for the most part
Bipod can't deploy in the usually easily defensible areas like catwalks on Operation firestorm tank blows a hole in the wall? get on the catwalk use bipod and get some flag defense action well 50/50 it wont deploy on a catwalk you can get lucky if debries are nearby however as it stands sometimes they work sometimes they dont, most often your out in the open and sitting still in the open = death

MG36 gains heavy barrel but it does nothing for accuracy really, due to again supressive style LMGs are ment for in the game, heavy barrel means no extended mag, even so they removed extended mag anyway,

QBB-95 is okay its more accurate but higher rate of fire and 76 rounds at the start means it doesnt fill its role well weapon is considered awesome by some not so much by others, ive had 0 luck with it

i can understand weapons like the M60, PKP, T88, M240B, M249 being unwieldly

but handy capping say the IAR 27 which is a carbon copy M416 and the MG36 just due to higher magazine capacity is rather retarded, these weapons are essentially assault rifles but dont feel as such, having played a few hours as assault the M416 is superior in every aspect to the IAR yet they are the same weapon the IAR has a heavy barrel and larger magazine, but thats about it,

Eitherway LMGs kinda got nerfed, might try picking up shotguns again but i doubt it, having to unlock shit constantly on weapons for them be worth using is getting tedious.

MG36 is essentially the same as the G36C at medium range the MG36 should be as accurate due to the heavier barrel
IAR 27 should be the same as an M416, but it gets a range nerf for obvious reasons aka an extra half a mag you can empty,

Accuracy Plots pre patch, theyve been changed again since patch but to give you an Idea M416 vs IAR 27 ;) essentially the bigger the mag / clip the less accurate the gun

the ASVAL is interesting to note as it really is a needle gun lol first bullet is extremely accurate.
http://symthic.com/?s=bf3&sb=plots

As it stands LMGs didnt need to be NERFED, what needs to be done is give Mortars back to Recon as it was in Bad Company 2 yet instead of multiple morters its just 1 well placed shot,

allow C4 for Assault and Support, but make C4 Assault users give up Med Packs aka you lose the SPM spam box, for vehicle killing power, reviving should still be possible it balances things out far better then as it currently is.
 
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I see the price increase cause of the sales strength of the cards.... :(
meanwhile at PNY and Gigabyte HQ.

PNY and Gigabyte cards are more expensive then the rest for some reason
 
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