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Battlefieldo - All BF3 Premium Members Have BF4 BETA Access

Discussion in 'News & Updates' started by Davekraft, Wednesday at 6:50 PM.

As some of you may have guessed, there are more ways into Battlefield 4 BETA access than buying a certain version of Medal of Honor: Warfighter. Now, it's made clear in the final Premium video (which you can watch HERE if you're part of the Premium service) that ALL BF3 Premium members will be granted the same exclusive access to the BF4 BETA.



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BC2 was the best...I played BF3 for a while but it was not the game it should have been.

They shrank down everything to make the graphics look better and killed the game play with that.

If they would come out with a BC3 with the same size and models it would be awesome.
 
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Don't know if anybody noticed this:

I imagine he was playing on a high-end PC?

DICE: It was a decent PC, yes. But you can still buy it, so it's not like alien technology or anything. It's still a PC that you can buy and it's still unoptimised code. Another thing that you might not have realised is that we ran it at 3K resolution at 60fps, and you don't do that. Nobody talked about pixels because at that size you couldn't see them.
http://www.computerandvideogames.co...efield-4-from-gut-feelings/?page=2#top_banner
 
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Forums.xbox.com - Battlefield 4 Release date: 10/29/2013?

EA and DICE Reveal Battlefield 4

editer 27 Mar 2013 3:00 PM

Only in Battlefield can players go through a building instead of around it, eject from a jet and take out the enemy mid-free fall, or flip a tank. DICE, a studio of Electronic Arts, announced that Battlefield 4 will arrive on the Xbox 360 on October 29, 2013.

View the 17-minute Gameplay Trailer on Battlefield.com

Battlefield 4 incorporates many of the series’ popular multiplayer game design elements into the single-player campaign. In single-player, gamers will experience huge environments, a playground of destruction, access to an arsenal of vehicles, and the ability to direct squad mates. Taking a page from the social aspect of multiplayer gaming, the single-player mode will now track players’ progress via leaderboards, adding an element of persistence and friendly competition to the campaign.

Players will learn how to work together in both the Campaign and Multiplayer, issuing squad orders and comparing achievements in both experiences. The game uses the Frostbite 3 engine, which EA states creates a new standard for interactive entertainment in 2013.

“We are so humbled and proud to debut Battlefield 4 on a global stage with simultaneous events in San Francisco and Stockholm. To be this early in development, and to already be so polished is a huge achievement for the DICE team and reflection of their passion and commitment to driving the franchise forward. Today’s demo was just the beginning -- we have so much more in store,” said Patrick Soderlund, Executive Vice President, EA Games Label. “As artists and craftspeople, we are focused on creating a dynamic, open design that brings people together with amazing, surprising unscripted moments that they’ll talk about for days. That’s the beauty of Battlefield.”

By pre-ordering Battlefield 4 at any participating retail outlet, gamers will receive a Premium expansion pack at no additional cost*.

To view the 17-minute gameplay video and get more information on the game, visit Battlefield.com. Watch xbox.com for more information on Battlefield 4 in coming months.

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BC2 was the best...I played BF3 for a while but it was not the game it should have been.

They shrank down everything to make the graphics look better and killed the game play with that.

If they would come out with a BC3 with the same size and models it would be awesome.
What did they shrink down? BF3 has larger everything over BC2. More guns, more equipment, more vehicles, larger maps, etc. What did I miss?
 
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I'll take it, or BFBC2.5. Either way I'd be OK with it:D
That's where I'm at now, too. Sure, the situation is definitely not perfect but I'm warming up to the idea of new maps and such, which it seems is about all this is.
 
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I'll take it, or BFBC2.5. Either way I'd be OK with it:D
BFBC2 was a bit too run and gun and bf3 toned it down a little... Most of my buddies and I came from MW to BFBC2 and transitioned very well.. basically stunts we were doing in MW were applicable in BFBC2. BF3 on the other hand felt like run > stay put (or walk in case of hipfire builds) before shooting then run again.. or better yet, stay on a tactically advantageous area and mow em.. which felt really better in terms of combat because it somehow made battlefield tactics more diverse.
 
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BFBC2 was a bit too run and gun and bf3 toned it down a little... Most of my buddies and I came from MW to BFBC2 and transitioned very well.. basically stunts we were doing in MW were applicable in BFBC2. BF3 on the other hand felt like run > stay put (or walk in case of hipfire builds) before shooting then run again.. or better yet, stay on a tactically advantageous area and mow em.. which felt really better in terms of combat because it somehow made battlefield tactics more diverse.
Heavy Metal the Desert and Afrika Harbor weren't really run and gun. They could be if you
got to many people on a map. That is why I don't really like 64 players on a map, that and
my reflexes are slow and die way to often:)
 
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Arica Harbor! Easy mistake to make but it's been years.
 

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That's where I'm at now, too. Sure, the situation is definitely not perfect but I'm warming up to the idea of new maps and such, which it seems is about all this is.
Theres not much information on the multiplayer end of things. But I think we can all expect it to be pretty much new maps, improvements to destruction physics, etc. And hopefully things will be server side.
 

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Nah me neither.
 
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Theres not much information on the multiplayer end of things. But I think we can all expect it to be pretty much new maps, improvements to destruction physics, etc. And hopefully things will be server side.
Yeah kind of what I figure too, I hope any way. Seeing as we don't have a BF3 thread anymore I'll use this one. Is there any way to keep your graphic setting from going to cloud. I use 3 different computers for BF3 and each one has it's own setting that is a lot different then the next, so every time I use a different machine I have to totally reset the graphics, or do I just not log into cloud when I log on ?:confused:
 
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BF3 on the other hand felt like run > stay put (or walk in case of hipfire builds) before shooting then run again.. or better yet, stay on a tactically advantageous area and mow em.. which felt really better in terms of combat because it somehow made battlefield tactics more diverse.
Nicely said. I think the game quote "Let the bodies hit the floor" after a kill streak says it all :)

@bois Why do you use cloud ? Disable it in ORIGIN.
 
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Nicely said. I think the game quote "Let the bodies hit the floor" after a kill streak says it all :)

@bois Why do you use cloud ? Disable it in ORIGIN.
I'll do that as soon as I finish the campaigns in BF3 and Warfighter. I only have the
last level on MOH and then finish up BF3. I didn't realize it was a setting in Orgin.
I think I'll shut it off on my main gamer and use the older 2 computers to finish out the campaigns.
Thanks
 
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OXM - Battlefield 4: DICE talks beating clichés, connected gaming and the franchise's future

Karl Magnus Troedsson chats about the first next gen Battlefield

Battlefield 4 is an interesting prospect, not entirely for good reasons. DICE's latest is pretty to the point of absurdity, with unbelievable detail lavished on every square inch of freshly exploded terrain, but it's hard to get terribly excited about the new features, which include mysterious "elements of social persistence" and a lightweight squad command system. What we've seen so far suggests a clean-up operation, dedicated in the first instance to restoring the breadth Battlefield 3 traded away, rather than an assault on new territory.

There's plenty still to reveal, mind - full disclosure on that Chinese setting, details of how the new game will take advantage of next generation console hardware, and of course, the prickly question of multiplayer. Having laid eyes on the new Battlefield for the very first time, I sat down for a little chinwag with the studio's general manager Karl Magnus Troedsson.

First things first: what's the story? Beyond the present day setting, there's not much to go on.

What we're revealing here today is far from everything. What you saw was part of the prologue of the game, but it is part of the game so it's not just a specific demo that we have built. We're showing off some of our characters, we're showing that they're in Azerbaijan - but we're not talking that much more about why they're actually there. What we can say is that they're on a bit of a first mission that'll set some bigger events into motion - unexpected events.

Can we talk about China at all?

China is in, that much I can say although I cannot say in what way, but it's definitely one of the new locations in the game.

You've mentioned that players will be able to tell their own stories through Battlefield 4. How do your new systems support that kind of emergent story-telling gubbins?

Well first and foremost, it's something that we've taken a lot of cues from multiplayer because we see that when people play Battlefield, it's this sandbox where players have a lot of different tools and vehicles, and these are then being used to create movies of crazy things that happen during the multiplayer experience. That's the kind of element that we'd like to bring into single player as well.

So what you saw for instance - the "Action Bubble" as we call it - in the construction site inside the demo today, that's the typical place where we just let the player go wild, as we supply the player with the appropriate amount of tools to create their own stories. We may provide the player with a vehicle such a Jeep or we may provide different weapon options for if the player prefers a stealth approach, or to simply go all guns blazing.

Due to this, it'll be up to the player as to how they wish to tackle a specific problem. This is what we mean by bringing signature multiplayer elements into single player, or at least one part of it. It's about the choice and it's about the use of tactical instruction, etc.


Then there will be other parts of the single player that is more dramatic to achieve that ultimate experience. The idea that we have there is that events won't just be cutscenes. You saw some parts today that were definitely controlled by the player and whilst you couldn't get out the car because it's sinking, the player was still in control - and that kind of player autonomy is something that we want to maintain as much as possible throughout the entire game.

Is that a reflection of where Battlefield 3 went wrong?

Well I can say this much - we weren't entirely happy with the single player in Battlefield 3. We felt that we controlled the player a bit too much, yes.

Do the "social elements" that you mentioned in the presentation have anything to do with the stories that you want the players to create?

Well, yes and no. We won't go into detail about those features today, but there will be elements where we make it less of a lone wolf experience. Even though it's not co-op in the way that you're still playing by yourself, we want to add elements that makes it feel connected to the rest of the game and to your friends and what they're doing.


Would it be fair to say that there's room for comparison to a "shared shooter" like Bungie's Destiny?

I don't have the necessary insight to compare Battlefield to Destiny, but in terms of comparing your progress with how your friends are doing - yes, absolutely.

How large and open are the environments relative to those of Battlefield 3?

This is an interesting question because it seems that size always matters! If you take Caspian Border for instance, that's an absolutely amazingly huge map. It might not be the same size as a specific single player bubble in Battlefield 4, but it will be in the case that you feel like you have a lot of freedom to take on the challenge at hand - in your own specific way. However it'll vary depending on kind of the mission you're on, and especially the vehicles that you have available.

Are you introducing any particular new guns, vehicles or military hardware?

There will be a lot, although we're not announcing that today. We did however mention that we'll have a lot more focus on amphibious assault with different kinds of water vehicles.

When you started work on Battlefield 4, was it always going to be a contemporary military shooter? Did you experiment with any other ideas?

No, Battlefield has historically been jumping through various settings over time, in the 10 years that we've been around, but we strongly felt that we had more stories to tell in this modern setting, and with the characters that have at hand. I don't know if you noticed, but some of the characters will return from Battlefield 3 - the helicopter pilot, for instance, is a returning character, though she doesn't return for that long I have to admit! So we do feel there are stories left to tell inside of this universe, but where the franchise will go in the future - that's completely uncertain.

Have you changed the audio design much?

Overall we're extremely proud of our sound experience that we have had in the game so far, so it's about owning it and tweaking it and making it better. As for the specifics, I think that's a question for somebody else perhaps, but we always try to find a coherent style and tone for everything that we do, in terms of specific audio cues, choice of composer and so on.

In your presentation, you described Battlefield 4 as the beginning of "a new era in interactive entertainment". How is this a clean break from what's come before?

I would say this: I mentioned our focus on the dramatic, human and believable part of the game, which could come across as a cliché or a bullet-point phrase, but it's something that the team back home are really living by. As opposed to trying to tell a story solely about a huge war, geo-politics, what's going on around the world. That will be there in the background, but that's not what this game is about.

Battlefield 4 is about the characters, it's about being close to your friends when something bad happens, like when you have to cut off Dunn's leg - we don't want it to be a gory scene, but we want people to think "that was intense, almost to the point where I didn't want to see it". I believe that it's this focus on the dramatic and human elements that will set us apart. We're not just an FPS game where you shoot as many people as possible - it's about the interaction between the characters.

Are you trying to introduce new kinds of character? The soldiers you've shown do seem to conform to certain military shooter clichés.

It's always a - what's the English phrase? It's a bumpy road to go down. We have Michael K Williams from The Wire playing the black guy in the game, who is a great actor, but it's like "oh you put a black guy in there because you have to".

And it's like, actually we wanted a strong character in there and when we did the casting, we found that this was the guy that we wanted. Will there be white guys? Yes, but we're trying to mix it up more. There will be women - you saw Hanna at the end there. But the whole idea of the casting comes from the story we want to tell, the people we need inside this universe.

Will Hanna be a playable character?

I can't comment on that.

OK...

Well, you know what? No you can't, because you will be playing as one character throughout the single player, as opposed to Battlefield 3 where we had you jump between characters. So no, you can't play as Hanna.

You sold Battlefield 3 to us as a "human story", and you seem to be doing it again with Battlefield 4. How has your approach changed?

One thing that we learned was that jumping between different characters is not a good idea for telling a story where we want people to get connected to your character and the characters around you, so that's one thing we scratched immediately from the list.

But it's more about focussing on what's between the characters - the dialogue, etc - making them recognisable. For instance, with Battlefield 3's Faultline demo we had a group of soldiers driving towards something - they didn't know where they were going, and they got diverted, and that's where the mission begins. We looked at that scene over and over again, and even though we were very happy with it when we built Battlefield 3 - the hatch goes down, you step out of the vehicle and it looks awesome - when we asked people who was in the APC, nobody could tell the difference between the characters.

They were dudes in fatigues with helmets and guns. So it was like 'OK, we failed here'. If we wanted to build a human story with drama in it, already we've failed. So that's something we're trying to do with Battlefield 4, to make the characters both more recognisable and more believable.

Patrick Bach has said you're not a "Battlefield factory", that there's scope for DICE to work on other IP. Is that still true?

Well naturally I'm not going to confirm or deny anything that we're doing, it is part of out strategy as a studio to not just make Battlefield games. As to what that actually implies and means, you'll just have to wait and see.

Battlefield 4 is out later this year, for both Xbox 360 and its successor.
 
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Yeah kind of what I figure too, I hope any way. Seeing as we don't have a BF3 thread anymore I'll use this one. Is there any way to keep your graphic setting from going to cloud. I use 3 different computers for BF3 and each one has it's own setting that is a lot different then the next, so every time I use a different machine I have to totally reset the graphics, or do I just not log into cloud when I log on ?:confused:
yeah. just back up your settings files on your primary system and carry it over to your others. its located.

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yeah. just back up your settings files on your primary system and carry it over to your others. its located.

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So you didn't like the SP on Warfighter ? :confused:I just finished it up.
6 level the last 2 nights. I liked it. Still hate the MP, but at
least I don't feel totally burned.