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Only question is, I know the bolt action rifles aren't effected by Magnum Ammo, I assume the Semi-Auto and Auto Rifles are?

Actually bolt action snipers are, magnum increases the range at which they are one shot kill slightly, along with pistol damage of course.

The semi auto sniper rifles (T88 and SVU) have much less bullet drop than bolt actions making them more predictable. Also, the T88 and SVU are statistically identical so there's really no reason to take the T88 over the SVU since the latter has a suppressor.
 
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Alright, since I got all the gold stars for vanilla BC2, I'm going to Vietnam weapons. Do we have any servers we normally play on/own? Are there any regulars here that play 'Nam?
 

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Actually bolt action snipers are, magnum increases the range at which they are one shot kill slightly, along with pistol damage of course.

The semi auto sniper rifles (T88 and SVU) have much less bullet drop than bolt actions making them more predictable. Also, the T88 and SVU are statistically identical so there's really no reason to take the T88 over the SVU since the latter has a suppressor.

The SVU has more kick on each shot, and it has slightly more accuracy, but the T88 has quite a bit more damage. In close quarters I don't like the SVU's kick, so I havem igrated to the T88, easier to just keep yanking the trigger without the gun trying to walk off target.

And yeah I seen people seem to think OHK goes up from 10m to 20m using Magnum ammo with the bolt actions.
 

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The semi auto sniper rifles (T88 and SVU) have much less bullet drop than bolt actions making them more predictable. Also, the T88 and SVU are statistically identical so there's really no reason to take the T88 over the SVU since the latter has a suppressor.

That is odd, as it is totally backwards to real life shooting. Bolt actions don't use any gas to cycle the action, and as such, have more distance and power. Wierd.
 

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So last night I discovered what the USAS-12 becomes when you use extended mags and slugs. RAPE.

I was 35/7 And I armed 5 Mcoms. I was playing assault class so I could have unlimited ammo.
 
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totally saw you and didn't recognize your in-game. Trip and I were like "what the heck is that guy talking about in the chat"

the TS is where it's at. info is in my sig, I will be on tonight sometime around 8pm EST.

Once again,Im not hurt or anything like that,so dont worry Haru :)
It was totally amazing to play with you in my team guys..finally
Shame Im in UK and the time difference causes that I can be rarely up when you are guys..but could you please explain to me what this TS is all about?thanks
 
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The SVU has more kick on each shot, and it has slightly more accuracy, but the T88 has quite a bit more damage. In close quarters I don't like the SVU's kick, so I havem igrated to the T88, easier to just keep yanking the trigger without the gun trying to walk off target.

Trust me, the T88, SVU, M14 and M1 are all statistically identical. Same damage values, same damage drop, same bullet drop, same recoil, same accuracy. The only difference is the scopes, iron sights and suppressor on the SVU. Before the last patch the SVU did have slightly lower long range damage and closer damage drop off than the other semi-autos, but now it's the same.
 

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Trust me, the T88, SVU, M14 and M1 are all statistically identical. Same damage values, same damage drop, same bullet drop, same recoil, same accuracy. The only difference is the scopes, iron sights and suppressor on the SVU. Before the last patch the SVU did have slightly lower long range damage and closer damage drop off than the other semi-autos, but now it's the same.

Nah, the SVU and T88 have been different since the start of the game. They aren't the same, because like you said, the SVU is silenced. So it has more kick, always has, it's not a ton more, but the difference is noticeable. Also at long range, espeically on body shots, the T88 usually seems to take 3 with mag ammo, where as sometime I see 4 for the SVU.
 

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but could you please explain to me what this TS is all about?thanks

And then there's the ping :)

TS is Team Speak it's a free voice-chat gaming service/app that also can provide a "room" where folks can meet up outside of a game. Even if you don't have or want to use a mic you can join TS to try to find when/where folks from here are playing.

The IP for the present TPU TS server is in BH's sig.
 

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Nah, the SVU and T88 have been different since the start of the game. They aren't the same, because like you said, the SVU is silenced. So it has more kick, always has, it's not a ton more, but the difference is noticeable. Also at long range, espeically on body shots, the T88 usually seems to take 3 with mag ammo, where as sometime I see 4 for the SVU.

agreed.
 
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Nah, the SVU and T88 have been different since the start of the game. They aren't the same, because like you said, the SVU is silenced. So it has more kick, always has, it's not a ton more, but the difference is noticeable. Also at long range, espeically on body shots, the T88 usually seems to take 3 with mag ammo, where as sometime I see 4 for the SVU.

Don't really want to have a huge debate, but the code has been analyzed and all the semi-auto guns are statistically the same.

http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

Like I said the SVU was slightly weaker pre-R8 but they are all the same now. I've been playing BC2 since the beta, have over 800 hours played and pay attention to all the release notes, balance changes, etc.

Now if you want to know something really interesting about the semi-autos, they are all inferior weapons because of the poor damage / RoF ratio and normal headshot multiplier. If you want to play that way, with very careful 2 shot burst on the VSS you can shoot 2 rounds with zero spray at long range and have all all the advantages of the VSS at short / medium range.
 

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I too have been in BC2 since beta, played in PS3 Beta and PC Beta. There is a chance they could be exactly the same, but sure seems like a bit more kick from the SVU, and my stats seem to agree that it is a better weapon for me. After 2hr 14m I have 110 kills with 32.32% accuracy with the T88. With the SVU 4hr 41min 161 kills and 26.69% accuracy. By the time I reach my SVU time, I should be over 200 kills, and my accuracy is higher over a good amount of time by almost 6% which is a lot, which the SVU I usually get owned by the recoil in close quarters, the T88 I just keep pulling and dropping.

I know what your saying about the VSS long range though, if you fire it right, it can be lethal. The problem I have with the VSS is Midrange, and thats where I excel with the T88 or SVU. Which normally isn't my playstyle, probably why I like it, allows me to change my pace now and then.
 
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Don't really want to have a huge debate, but the code has been analyzed and all the semi-auto guns are statistically the same.

http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

Like I said the SVU was slightly weaker pre-R8 but they are all the same now. I've been playing BC2 since the beta, have over 800 hours played and pay attention to all the release notes, balance changes, etc.

Now if you want to know something really interesting about the semi-autos, they are all inferior weapons because of the poor damage / RoF ratio and normal headshot multiplier. If you want to play that way, with very careful 2 shot burst on the VSS you can shoot 2 rounds with zero spray at long range and have all all the advantages of the VSS at short / medium range.

that site listed gustav and At4 to have the same flight speed. I lol'd.
 
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They do after the AT4 projectile speed was changed in the R8 patch. The AT4 blast radius was also upped slightly and the CG was slightly decreased.

The guy who edits that page has been very meticulous in keeping all the information up to date.
 
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Zen- I just realized who you are from the UK BF forum. You should hop on TS and play with us some time. Your stats are insane... you should link your other account in your signature too.
 

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They do after the AT4 projectile speed was changed in the R8 patch. The AT4 blast radius was also upped slightly and the CG was slightly decreased.

The guy who edits that page has been very meticulous in keeping all the information up to date.

tested that, and your right.

then I remembered why it seems to have such a long flight path; because you have to stay scoped. it really bugs me.
 

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I score like crazy when I am a medic. I always rank 1st or 2nd place on my team.

that happens for everyone. medic gets points way too easy. play assault or engi, they get plenty of points, and most get better K/d.

try and get at least bronze on every weapon.
 

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Zen- I just realized who you are from the UK BF forum. You should hop on TS and play with us some time. Your stats are insane... you should link your other account in your signature too.

Yep that's me :)

I started a different soldier to reflect changes in the game. First 3-4 months all I did was play rush and abused the CG big time griefing bush snipers and zerg medics because the gun registration was so terrible. Now I only play CQ on a select few servers that perform well and tend to have a lot of good players on them.

May jump on ts sometime...what's the info?
 
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