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i just played the demo on the 360 and love this game debating if i should get for xbox 360 or PC.
 
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real disappointed

reason's why
the graphics are all while and blur
sound quality is beyond terrible
movement of all vehicles don't feel that realistic compared to bf2
the layout of all buttons etc.. have change
no prone
 

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real disappointed

reason's why
the graphics are all while and blur
sound quality is beyond terrible
movement of all vehicles don't feel that realistic compared to bf2
the layout of all buttons etc.. have change
no prone

what kind of graphics settings you using? also take into consideration it is a map with a lot of snow effects which makes it hard to see (which i like). i personally love the feel of the tanks and other vehicle movements. piloting the chopper is tough though when trying to avoid incoming fire. the buttons you must be referring to the console version, in that case i cant compare since im using the pc. no prone is good because it increases the pace of the game and discourages camping.
 

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Width=1600
Height=1200
Fullscreen=true
RefreshRate=60
VSync=false
[Sound]
Quality=medium
VoipEnable=true
[Graphics]
Effects=high
Soldiers=high
Vehicles=high
Overgrowth=high
Undergrowth=high
StaticObjects=high
Terrain=high
Shadows=low
Bloom=true
HSAO=false
MSAA=0
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MainQuality=custom
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DxVersion=auto
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Detail=high

for controls i am talking about battlefield 2 for pc
 

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Width=1600
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Quality=medium
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Effects=high
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Vehicles=high
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Undergrowth=high
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MSAA=0
Water=high
MainQuality=custom
Texture=high
DxVersion=auto
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Detail=high

for controls i am talking about battlefield 2 for pc

oh i see. yea i am used to bf2 for pc as well. it took me a few rounds to really get used to movement and what not. i like it now. as far as your settings, they look fine for midrange video. you do know that you are playing a beta and that the high res textures are not completey finished? regardless, this game will not be for everyone so if you dont like it dont play it.
 
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lol he complains about bad sound, but has the sound set to "medium" Lol
 

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its set to hifi in game, as to why its at medium i got no clue
 

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I think if you set to War Tapes it goes to High for sound. Here's my settings, runs great, sounds great (really have no complaints on sound at any setting imho), looks damn good for "medium" textures. I was reading on the BC2 forums that supposedly the higher res textures aren't going to be a huge difference...hard sifting through the bs over that way though..I'll see for myself in about 15 days. :D

I have not modified my actual ini file, just posting it here, I am using all in-game settings. I have AA set to 4X in game and AF to 16X, odd to see that MSAA is 2 and AF is 4 in the ini, but oh well. I'm too busy enjoying the game as-is to worry much about it in beta status right now...for me that's a damn good sign. Either rate, here's my ini, so I suggest setting to War Tapes and seeing what happens sound-wise.

[WindowSettings]
Width=1920
Height=1080
Fullscreen=true
RefreshRate=60
VSync=false
[Sound]
Quality=high
VoipEnable=true
[Graphics]
Effects=high
Soldiers=high
Vehicles=high
Overgrowth=high
Undergrowth=high
StaticObjects=high
Terrain=high
Shadows=high
Bloom=true
HSAO=false
MSAA=2
Water=high
MainQuality=custom
Texture=high
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real disappointed

reason's why
the graphics are all while and blur
sound quality is beyond terrible
movement of all vehicles don't feel that realistic compared to bf2
the layout of all buttons etc.. have change
no prone

1. We will discuss later.

2. Your sound is on medium and this is a Beta. Besides the sound is actually really good as bullets being shot at you make realistic sounds as they whiz by and hit stuff.

3. Movement of Vehicles is nearly identical to BF2, neither of which are realistic. A real life tank can reach up to 60 MPH in real life, while in game they go like 10.

4. I don't even understand this complaint. Most of the buttons are the same. VOIP was moved, the tactical wheel is gone, and G is a gernade instead of "Get kit" but everything else is exactly the same.

5. No prone did bug me, but realistic foliage helps you hide better than laying on the ground in the open. It didn't improve your shooting in BF2, just made you a little harder to hit.

Width=1600
Height=1200
Fullscreen=true
RefreshRate=60
VSync=false
[Sound]
Quality=medium
VoipEnable=true
[Graphics]
Effects=high
Soldiers=high
Vehicles=high
Overgrowth=high
Undergrowth=high
StaticObjects=high
Terrain=high
Shadows=low
Bloom=true
HSAO=false
MSAA=0
Water=high
MainQuality=custom
Texture=high
DxVersion=auto
Aniso=0
Detail=high

for controls i am talking about battlefield 2 for pc

1. Graphics are white and blurry? You have shadows on Low, thus the too bright issue. You have AA off and AF off. You system should be able to handle a little of both. Trying turning the Shadows on to medium at the least, AA on x2 and AF on x4. This should drastically improve the things you are complaining about.
 

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already attempted tape still no go, mind i am running this game with a m2n sli deluxe with onboard sound
 
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already attempted tape still no go, mind i am running this game with a m2n sli deluxe with onboard sound

What kind of speakers do you have?
 

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I miss the BF2 tactical wheel.
 

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1. We will discuss later.

3. Movement of Vehicles is nearly identical to BF2, neither of which are realistic. A real life tank can reach up to 60 MPH in real life, while in game they go like 10. we all got our own oppion as for me the vehicles movement is not even close to what bf2 was

4. I don't even understand this complaint. Most of the buttons are the same. VOIP was moved, the tactical wheel is gone, and G is a gernade instead of "Get kit" but everything else is exactly the same. yes i agree some setting the same or close to it, but where's the q option that allow u all these commands, g for nades is tell i get used to it, i prefer the wheel like bf2

5. No prone did bug me, but realistic foliage helps you hide better than laying on the ground in the open. It didn't improve your shooting in BF2, just made you a little harder to hit. again we all have our like's and dislikes, for me it takes the fun from the game holding ctrl to crouch is more annoying then anything else, i am the type that likes to have to option to prone to hide from enemy



1. Graphics are white and blurry? You have shadows on Low, thus the too bright issue. You have AA off and AF off. You system should be able to handle a little of both. Trying turning the Shadows on to medium at the least, AA on x2 and AF on x4. This should drastically improve the things you are complaining about.
it doesn't matter what i set my graphics at Ive experiment with varies of settings shadows only makes the game darker, as for aa/af all my games i leave it off, for my eyes i don't see the difference, and why have it on for a big performance hit
 
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Those are pretty decent speakers, just wanted to make sure.

You may simply have more sensitive ears than I do. I have read a report about the sound quality on a link posted on TPU of one of the 2 BFBC2 posts. An audiophile claimed the sound quality was great, but you needed the dedicated sound card to get the best sound. It is good to me, but if it is not for you, then you may want to invest in a good sound card.

I usually get my drivers for my sound card from here at TPU.
 

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well take into consideration it is just a beta and every system will be effected differently. but if you are not happy with the sound and the graphics id like to know which games you ARE happy with.
 

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other then that i have no other complaints to add, i can run bc2 full out without a stutter even with shadows at high
 

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what game's do i like that's a tough call every game i came across, has problems i mean what game doesnt lol, i guess that's what makes computer's etc enjoyable yet frustrating at the same time
 

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i was talking about battlefield bad company 2, i have no troubles running at full performance wise even with shadows set to high
 
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If you see no difference in AA and AF being on or off in any game. I can't help you.

I have fairly sensitive eyes and I always calibrate my monitor using professional test patterns to ensure the best color clarity and color accuracy. I know it is not perfect, but I am also not paying $100 for a pro to do it for me. I also can't play a game with quality graphics with both AA and AF off. The flickering is just too annoying.

And while every game has it issues, your issues with this game is the sound, graphics, and controls are all bad. If that truly is the case, Easy was right, find a new game.
 
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what game's do i like that's a tough call every game i came across, has problems i mean what game doesnt lol, i guess that's what makes computer's etc enjoyable yet frustrating at the same time

yes, all games have problems - but there are plenty of 10/10 games out there, or even 9/10 could be considered no fault. it just seems that if you can't name a game you LOVED despite/irregardless of any faults it has, you just may be picky.

there are people that never see a problem, there are people that see the problem, but put it into context and get great enjoyment anyway , and there are people that let any problem bug them forever.

yes, I definitely agree that computers/technology are both wonderful and frustrating at the same time -but I can name at least 10 games that despite graphics,sound,mechanics issues they are still completely enjoyable, without ANY problems serious enough to have ruined it for me. This has serious potential come release, and even the beta i would consider damn close.

my point is - you may just be hard to please. that's not necessarily a bad thing but it helps us to understand your criticisms.

and laughing man is right - AA is one of the single most differentiating factors in graphics , it makes the difference between crap and smooth. If you can't tell that with ANY game you have played, I don't see how you can have ANY opinion about graphics in this game. seriously. it makes that much of a difference, that you not noticing that difference leads me to believe you have eyesight problems.
 

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I miss the BF2 tactical wheel.

I didn't really like the wheel before, too clunky and slow, now your soldier just yells out most of those things like they should. I hear grenade, sniper, tank warnings all the time.

it doesn't matter what i set my graphics at Ive experiment with varies of settings shadows only makes the game darker, as for aa/af all my games i leave it off, for my eyes i don't see the difference, and why have it on for a big performance hit

If your complaining about graphics then playing with 0 AF or AA, that right there is your issue, maybe if you had those on even 2x or 4x I could see you complaining if it bothered you, but 0...
 

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just a note, the game actually LOOKS better when playing with HBAO off and dropping it from 16 aa to 8
 
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