Discussion in 'Motherboards & Memory' started by GSquadron, Feb 13, 2010.
I wanted to ask you which is the best amd mobo till now
I don't foresee this question going very far. Although, if it moves from its current position it would be from a poll added within this thread.
The Nvidia Nf4 was very good.
In fact i dont want to open a poll if none suggest some mobos
if i had money and could pick any AMD mainboard i like i would pick the following.
what paint face said
What socket? AM2+ AM3?
rated IMO best to less best on air/water cooling!
GB 790FX UD5 bust for overall clock http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128415&Tpk=gigabyte 790fx
Asus Crosshair III best for ram/bus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131392
Asus M4A79T good overall http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131363
Asus M4A78T-E robust little beast good overall http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131366
MSI GD70 good for ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130223&Tpk=MSI GD70
remember i am asus biased a bit but IMO they have the best ram/NB clocks but the GB board pulls off a better overall clock/speed. MSI is good for show but it really can only do ram and sucks when its cold
i really liked my M4A79T-deluxe board cause it had TONS of options
As much as i know asus crosshair is the best
It is the most priced of all mobos suggested in the poll
i have the m4a79t deluxe and absolutetly love it! the features are numorous, and the board layout is pretty nice. However if you are focused on overclocking i would go with a crosshair III. Mainly because it has Load line calibration which is almost nessesary in achieving high level overclocks vs other boards... My m4a79t shows an almost .04 difference in load and idle voltages with is rediculous at times... so in order to hit 4.0ghz i needed 1.58 just so when it loaded it would be at 1.535...
I agree with the list cdawall put up especially regarding the ASUS boards.
As for what exodus found without having loadline calibration I totally agree that it's best to have it for highest clocks. I found the same situation on my M4A78T-E (the little amazing gx board cdawall was talking about) when at the higher voltage levels and clocks. If the voltage was up to the 1.5 to 1.55v level it would suffer from voltage droop issues. It wasn't quite as bad as what exodus had to deal with on his board, but it was still something you had to pay attention to in order to be stable.
Now that i see the crosshair formula, it is made of tantalium phases!
That means that the cost of that mobo is really rediculous cuz that makes it much more pricier to produce and the tantalium phases are made by a rare element which makes the mobo overclock like a beast. A question remains unrevealed: why does it cost cheap?
*cough* cdawall's list *cough*
M4A78T-E had lite vdroop and kept strong at 1.7v when i put mine on cold
its a 4+1 phase board like all the others on my list the just use 2 phases for each phase making it look like an 8+2 phase board when its wired to be a 4+1
I'm SO sorry wall hahahahaha, I was looking at more than one thing at a time and typed rocker instead of you.
When I had my wounded M4A78T-E it had a little droop, but that could be because of the wounded status it came to me with. I really did want to pick up another one of those, but when I returned that board they were out of stock thus I ended up testing out this Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P which is actually pretty great!
Doesn't achieve the same greatness level in regards to lowest volts need for cpu stock (1.168v ASUS around 1.20-1.23v on this board), but it does achieve 4Ghz @ 1.488v (1.440v runs great, but doesn't pass full stablity test). This board clocks the ram great for max speed, however doesn't achieve the same low timings the ASUS board achieved which is more important to me. Also the northbridge clocking was significantly superior on the ASUS in comparison to the Gigabyte.
The ASUS board also had a fairly robust bios even though it wasn't the full FX board which usually seems to have more options.
As you got the "PROFESSOR TITLE" cdwall, can you explain us what are these things here?
Who cant open the image check the url out
its cool and your wounded board may have had issues because it was wounded...it holds the records for some of the lowest voltage clocks even by reviewers and glad to see you noticed NB clocked way the hell better
here is your pic first off
regardless its still only a 4+1 phase design as that is the design for 790FX by AMD. 8 chokes for the cpu and 2 chokes for the chipset ie the 10 chokes you circled now the one by itself actually IIRC is for the ram or SB i honestly can't remember offhand. funny thing is the M4A78T-E carries 8+1 phases which is again a 4+1 design 8 chokes for the cpu and 1 choke for the chipset
M4A79T carries 8+2 ie 4+1 with 10 chokes
so does the GB 790FXTA
if you want more proof look into the AMD white papers on the chipset reference design. trust me i have had this board longer than you have been on these forums by multiple months
and this is for anyone who doubts the M4A78T-E
Wow man you really earned the title "PROFESSOR"
Anyway the crosshair is the best. Can you explain why it overclocks better than other boards, i mean what did the asus team add to this board visible in the mobo pcb
Today I did not like the crosshair III formula..
Please don't misunderstand what I was trying to say.........that board EVEN WOUNDED was an epic motherboard!!! I cried like a baby over at the Phenom II thread when I knew I had to return the board, because it was just too good to be true! The only reason why I haven't went back to the store to purchase another one after the initial out of stock issue was because I'm trying (very very very very very very very very hard....and failing) to wait a little longer to see what the 890 series boards are going to be pricewise. I'm still likely going to buy the GX model because I at no point will be using any more than 2 video cards if even that. I've finally seen good pictures of the official board (though maybe some NDA was broken to make that happen), and I'm loving how it looks.
All I have to do now is somehow wait to see the prices on the boards so I can make a decision on what I'm going to do. Even then, I'm still not sure what I'll do since the price on that M4A78T-E is just too low to ignore for such an amazing board!
Btw, thanks for the lesson about the power setups on these boards. I didn't realize that, so I (like many others) let that be part of my decision making process when shopping for boards.
How do you feel about 8pin vs 4pin connectors any further thruths to share with us?
the dual 16x is part of it and other than that its a "simpler" board which means less tra ces etc. and that means cleaner power cleaner clocks etc.
never had an issue 8 vs 4 phenom honestly don't pull enough to suffice an 8 pin but thats were the market went so bandwagon up everyone.
as far as BIOS's go the M4A series has a better worked out BIOS than the CH3 as they are older and have grown more than the CH3 has. that board used to not clock ram at all so its made leaps and bounds to were it is now
Honestly, they are all good boards. The best overall, I would go with Gigabyte if I was being unbias. I have seen benchmarks and such about these boards and MSi gets a lot of flack for no reason.
Overall Performance IMO: Gigabyte UD5 > Formula III > MSi GD70 > Others.
Ahahaha well it was specifically designed in the program named "PAINT"
It is very strange .. do not you think
It is abstract art my friend
I will name it Crosshair III paint formula
Separate names with a comma.