BEST RAM FOR ASUS HERO X570

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Why not look for reviews from people that use that motherboard? Then you can compare performance between kits and see for yourself where money is best placed.

In a way that's what I'm doing here. I would be very keen on reading material from people who use this system board since I just purchased it. So far the reviews have been rather meager when it comes to references on RAM but the board does seem to have the features that I want in a gaming build and I'm well-acquainted with ASUS BIOS. That's why I'm asking what is best for this specific system board.

 

[Tomgang]

"but I love X58 even more" Ha ha ha ha I just had to comment. Still running two X58 units here and going strong. My girls love them and wouldn't give them up for the world. I wish the UEFI BIOS in my other units were so reliable.

I cant blame them for not willing to give them up. X58 has been an amazing platform to work with. I have so many fond memory´s with X58. Just as a few exsamples like i got my I7 980X up 4.75 GHz on air cooling really took me by surprice that is whas even possible and stable enoufh for benchmark or when i got a M.2 NVMe SSD fully working on X58 with out third party software or bios mod. And there are more good memory´s throw the time with X58 and dont get me wrong, i still sure as hell love X58 but time is a bitch to old hardware and the bitch has unfortunaly now keept up with X58 or said with other words in some cases X58 can no longer provide the performance i want in latest games or data transfer speed for not to forget the limit in memory capacity and how big SSD/HDD i can use on X58. But yeah X58 has been one hell of a stable system and even after over 10 years all X58 part are still fully working all from USB ports to sound card nothing has yet broken on my Asus board, to CPU is just as stable still as when i got my 980X 3 years ago even throw i have abused it a lot over the years i have had my 980X (had a I7 920 before that).

Now you have show interest are here a few benchmark with I7 920 and i7 980X if interested.

http://imgur.com/a/WqD1iHK

http://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

I cant blame them for not willing to give them up. X58 has been an amazing platform to work with. I have so many fond memory´s with X58. Just as a few exsamples like i got my I7 980X up 4.75 GHz on air cooling really took me by surprice that is whas even possible and stable enoufh for benchmark or when i got a M.2 NVMe SSD fully working on X58 with out third party software or bios mod. And there are more good memory´s throw the time with X58 and dont get me wrong, i still sure as hell love X58 but time is a bitch to old hardware and the bitch has unfortunaly now keept up with X58 or said with other words in some cases X58 can no longer provide the performance i want in latest games or data transfer speed for not to forget the limit in memory capacity and how big SSD/HDD i can use on X58. But yeah X58 has been one hell of a stable system and even after over 10 years all X58 part are still fully working all from USB ports to sound card nothing has yet broken on my Asus board, to CPU is just as stable still as when i got my 980X 3 years ago even throw i have abused it a lot over the years i have had my 980X (had a I7 920 before that).

Now you have show interest are here a few benchmark with I7 920 and i7 980X if interested.

http://imgur.com/a/WqD1iHK

http://imgur.com/a/uHjbbMg

I was surprised when my older daughter decided to use her savings to slap in an MSI 1050 Ti in her X58 unit. The thing took off without a hitch. No blue screens no lag. It ran like it was made for it. She even renders video animations with it. (She's 12 and keen on desk top PCs.) Yup. They just don't make 'em like they used to.

 

[sneekypeet]

In a way that's what I'm doing here. I would be very keen on reading material from people who use this system board since I just purchased it. So far the reviews have been rather meager when it comes to references on RAM but the board does seem to have the features that I want in a gaming build and I'm well-acquainted with ASUS BIOS. That's why I'm asking what is best for this specific system board.

Tbh I haven't had issues with mine clocking ram, unless I tried older ddr4 or something past 4200mhz. Hynix, samsung, whatever, they all seem to work with xmp/docp applied. Also hasn't been a set I couldn't clock yet either.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Tbh I haven't had issues with mine clocking ram, unless I tried older ddr4 or something past 4200mhz. Hynix, samsung, whatever, they all seem to work with xmp/docp applied. Also hasn't been a set I couldn't clock yet either.

This is good news. Thanks

 

[Zach_01]

I don’t think anyone here specific hates Corsair. It’s just that a lot is going around with Ryzen3000+Corsair Ram. I have Corsair LPX, I got lucky with it or just my CPU accept it. Could be a board/UEFI issue also... who knows.
But I personally cannot ignore what I hear/read and that the best thing to do right now is to avoid Corsair Ram for ZEN2. It will be a lottery more than any other tested brand.

Does anyone know if 16GB modules are both single/dual ranked? I know it’s kind of hard a dense 16Gb rank...
Because Ryzen in general and most board layouts (daisy chain wiring scheme) I think like better the single rank modules for better compatibility at medium-high speeds (3600~3800MT/s).

IMHO a 3600MT/s kit should be the minimum for the highend Zen2/X570 platform. It’s closer to that 3800 max point/barrier for InfinityFabric.

So... for me... a 3600MHz kit with the tighter timings you can afford.
Definitely must run MCLK/UCLK/FCLK at equal speeds for max performance.

 

[TheLostSwede]

you people hating corsair just have bad luck. i'm using a 3200mhz corsair vengeance LPX for ryzen at 3733mhz 16-16-16-38 with 0 problems.
adata i'd avoid though, it's the ddr4 i replaced.

No, it's not just bad luck, they have a lot of minor revisions of memory and they simply don't work with certain AMD setups at their rated speeds.
Admittedly some of it is down to the board makers, as on my previous rig, early on, the memory wouldn't run faster than JEDEC spec, then slowly it got up to 2600, 2800, 2933 and finally 3000MHz. It even hit 3066MHz on a couple of UEFI releases, but it was a bit flake. At no point would the RAM work at 3200MHz, not even when relaxing the timings beyond ridiculous settings. Tried the RAM in this rig, as I was hoping that it would work better with the vastly improved memory controller on the Ryzen 3000-series, not 1MHz above 3000...

About the bashing on Corsair ram. I have had no problems with these i have in my current build. One of the kit is over 10 years old now and the other kit is 6 years old now and still going strong. So Corsair is in my opinion not a problem for long time use. I just chose G.skill this time as they are among those to offer the lowest timings kits.

Not bashing anyone, it's just a fact, a lot of Corsair memory works poorly with Ryzen. And neither of your kits are DDR4 paired with a Ryzen CPU. I've used tons of Corsair RAM in the past and never had a problem. It's just that with Ryzen, you got a much bigger chance than with pretty much any other major brand, to end up having issues.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Does anyone know if 16GB modules are both single/dual ranked? I know it’s kind of hard a dense 16Gb rank...

Very good question. Another question I would ask you is what CPU did you decide to get as I haven't purchased that either. Some of the reviews are saying the 3800x isn't worth the extra bucks but a 3900x for a gaming rig??? Seriously? hmmmm I dunno.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I'm kind of looking at 64 GB of memory as it will likely be my first and last gaming PC that I build for myself (I'm in my 60's). I want it somewhat "future proofed" and I have a feeling there will be greater memory demands in the years to come with PCIE4 already implemented in the platform.

Keep in mind that you're highly unlikely to run that much RAM at high clocks. That said, I'm amazed I can run 4x 8GB at 3800MHz 1:1:1 at reasonable tight timings, especially as this is very much affordable modules. I can't actually say that I've seen anyone running 64GB in a Ryzen rig so far.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Keep in mind that you're highly unlikely to run that much RAM at high clocks. That said, I'm amazed I can run 4x 8GB at 3800MHz 1:1:1 at reasonable tight timings, especially as this is very much affordable modules. I can't actually say that I've seen anyone running 64GB in a Ryzen rig so far.

Yeah. 3800 @ 1:1:1 is pretty sweet. That's on 32 GB yes?

 

[Tomgang]

I was surprised when my older daughter decided to use her savings to slap in an MSI 1050 Ti in her X58 unit. The thing took off without a hitch. No blue screens no lag. It ran like it was made for it. She even renders video animations with it. (She's 12 and keen on desk top PCs.) Yup. They just don't make 'em like they used to.

I can confirm that as well. As you can i see i put a GTX 1080 TI in my system and i had not a single problem with it running i my system. No freezing up, no BSOD it jut works. Since she renders, i hope she have a 6 core Xeon or I7 in it then as the 6 core xeon for X58 are so dam cheap. Else it about dam time you give your girls one for chrismas

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

I can confirm that as well. As you can i see i put a GTX 1080 TI in my system and i had not a single problem with it running i my system. No freezing up, no BSOD it jut works. Since she renders, i hope she have a 6 core Xeon or I7 in it then as the 6 core xeon for X58 are so dam cheap. Else it about dam time you give your girls one for chrismas

ha ha ha... she's running a sweet little i-920 that daddy oc'd ages ago and she won't let me touch it. I keep telling her she'd do better with six cores but nope. She's stubborn. I think that's why she got the card in the first place. She cut a deal with her younger sister. So guess who got the old sapphire. lol

 

[moproblems99]

I don’t think anyone here specific hates Corsair. It’s just that a lot is going around with Ryzen3000+Corsair Ram. I have Corsair LPX, I got lucky with it or just my CPU accept it. Could be a board/UEFI issue also... who knows.
But I personally cannot ignore what I hear/read and that the best thing to do right now is to avoid Corsair Ram for ZEN2. It will be a lottery more than any other tested brand.

Does anyone know if 16GB modules are both single/dual ranked? I know it’s kind of hard a dense 16Gb rank...
Because Ryzen in general and most board layouts (daisy chain wiring scheme) I think like better the single rank modules for better compatibility at medium-high speeds (3600~3800MT/s).

IMHO a 3600MT/s kit should be the minimum for the highend Zen2/X570 platform. It’s closer to that 3800 max point/barrier for InfinityFabric.

So... for me... a 3600MHz kit with the tighter timings you can afford.
Definitely must run MCLK/UCLK/FCLK at equal speeds for max performance.

A friend of mine's 3900x will not boot with anything other than 3200/1600.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Oh, one other thing, apparently T-topology is better for dual rank modules, whereas daisy chain allows for higher memory clocks. Might be something to consider when it comes to the board you're getting.
Have a look at the ultimate Ryzen motherboard guide some helpful people have put together.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/htmlview?sle=true#gid=2112472504

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

A friend of mine's 3900x will not boot with anything other than 3200/1600.

Yeah. That's why I was thinking I might be better off with this >>https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232092 Plus it has the Samsung B-die

 

[sneekypeet]

Yeah. That's why I was thinking I might be better off with this >>https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232092 Plus it has the Samsung B-die

Density might play into timings, but b-die without straight timings may as well be hynix or anything else....just my two pennies. Of course density is going to limit any clocking or timing reductions as well.

 

[Tomgang]

ha ha ha... she's running a sweet little i-920 that daddy oc'd ages ago and she won't let me touch it. I keep telling her she'd do better with six cores but nope. She's stubborn. I think that's why she got the card in the first place. She cut a deal with her younger sister. So guess who got the old sapphire. lol

I see, stubborn girls. Then you only have two choises: Either you just let it be or while she is away for a longer periode, you swap the I7 920 any way for a 6 core chip, oc it and then hope she will forgive you when she finds out that the 6 core dit bring her render time down.

Oh by the way now i think of it. If you chose to go for slower memory to save a few cash, then go for 3200 MHz CL 14-14-14-32 or something lige that. Dont go under 3200 MHz for Ryzen 3000 CPU.

 

[Zach_01]

Very good question. Another question I would ask you is what CPU did you decide to get as I haven't purchased that either. Some of the reviews are saying the 3800x isn't worth the extra bucks but a 3900x for a gaming rig??? Seriously? hmmmm I dunno.

Yeah... once you past a certain point (Res/game settings), it’s about the same taste between 3700/3800/3900X at gaming.
I got the 3600 aka the bottom of the barrel silicon but I’m not planning to keep it more than 2-3years top.
I would say go for a 3700X but if the 3800X is close in price then... It’s a better binned SKY none the less...
The 12/16core parts are overkill for the gaming rig...

A friend of mine's 3900x will not boot with anything other than 3200/1600.

What Ram and what board?

 

[TheLostSwede]

Yeah. 3800 @ 1:1:1 is pretty sweet. That's on 32 GB yes?

Yes, but with four 8GB sticks.

 

[thesmokingman]

Yeah. 3800 @ 1:1:1 is pretty sweet. That's on 32 GB yes?

It doesn't matter the size, its the number of ranks. 4 rank setups have a few % points advantage in overall performance.

Density might play into timings, but b-die without straight timings may as well be hynix or anything else....just my two pennies. Of course density is going to limit any clocking or timing reductions as well.

This. Mismatched timings is a sure sign of lesser dies.

Yeah. That's why I was thinking I might be better off with this >>https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232092 Plus it has the Samsung B-die

The fabled Samsung B-dies are always matched timings. That memory is not matched.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Very good question. Another question I would ask you is what CPU did you decide to get as I haven't purchased that either. Some of the reviews are saying the 3800x isn't worth the extra bucks but a 3900x for a gaming rig??? Seriously? hmmmm I dunno.

The 3800X has gotten better with UEFI and driver updates, but I'm still not sure it makes sense over the 3700X. It seems to be getting better parts from AMD, so it might be that you have better luck running the IF at higher speeds with it over a 3700X.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

I see, stubborn girls. Then you only have two choises: Either you just let it be or while she is away for a longer periode, you swap the I7 920 any way for a 6 core chip, oc it and then hope she will forgive you when she finds out that the 6 core dit bring her render time down.

Oh by the way now i think of it. If you chose to go for slower memory to save a few cash, then go for 3200 MHz CL 14-14-14-32 or something lige that. Dont go under 3200 MHz for Ryzen 3000 CPU.

Yup. Already thought of that and def won't be looking at anything less than 3200 MHz. The thing is, I just want to build my very own gaming rig. I know that sounds insane when I've built so many rigs over these past couple decades but never a gaming rig for myself. To me, a 3900x seems like over kill for a gaming rig and o.c. (although a factor) isn't really a super big deal if the unit runs well at stock speeds IMO. Perhaps I should just settle for a 3700x but I really would like to have 64 GB of RAM coz I have this "spidy sense" thing about the future and PCIe gen 4.

 

[Zach_01]

The X570 Aorus Master as the X570 Crosshair Hero are DaisyChain layout.
Likes the single rank modules

 

[moproblems99]

Yeah. That's why I was thinking I might be better off with this >>https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232092 Plus it has the Samsung B-die

We have they same set of ram. He can run 3200/1600 and I can do 3800/1900. The kit is 3600 cjr

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Maybe it's a guy thing? Maybe I just want 64 GB coz "bigger is better"?? Maybe it's because I'm accustomed to using 128 GB? I dunno. One on one on one is the sensible ratio from what I understand with the latest Ryzen CPUs and it makes sense. I'd fork out more bucks for better latencies but it isn't worth spending if it's only for overclocking competitions. The main goal is a good gaming PC.