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[Msap14]

anti virus comparison

all those test is some basic speed tests? nothing to do with how good an antivirus it is?

all this has gotten me quite interested in researching this topic a bit more and this is what i have found:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report25.pdf

av-comparatives is an austrian company dedicated to testing anti-virus programs, the link above is their 2010 anti virus comparison and below is a link to their main website.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

 

[Mussels]

all this has gotten me quite interested in researching this topic a bit more and this is what i have found:

http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report25.pdf

av-comparatives is an austrian company dedicated to testing anti-virus programs, the link above is their 2010 anti virus comparison and below is a link to their main website.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

i commented on that PDF a few posts back, saying some of it doesnt make sense. (speed of scanning, for example) They also only tested the antivirus version, not the full suite unlike some of the other brands... and most importantly, they dont test cleanup. i'd rather a program with 97% detection that leaves me a working OS when its done, over 98% protection, a lagging machine, broken multiplayer gaming, and a hosed OS when it removes important files instead of cleaning them.


basically, none of these tests ever tell the whole story.

 

[Msap14]

i commented on that PDF a few posts back, saying some of it doesnt make sense. (speed of scanning, for example) They also only tested the antivirus version, not the full suite unlike some of the other brands... and most importantly, they dont test cleanup. i'd rather a program with 97% detection that leaves me a working OS when its done, over 98% protection, a lagging machine, broken multiplayer gaming, and a hosed OS when it removes important files instead of cleaning them.


basically, none of these tests ever tell the whole story.

ah i guess i should have read everything 8P it does state though that the companies were contacted and asked if they would like to participate in the tests and that each company told av-comparitives what they would allow to be tested.

the speed of scanning renders your computer pretty useless during the scan time period because it wants exclusive access to files and slows the system down. they dont want you using the computer during this time so the programs may effetively scan. Users may want to use the computer during the scan.

im not trying to pick any fights here just trying to determine what really is the best antivirus.

 

[Mussels]

thats what i said above about kaspersky... you can tell it to skip files it scanned previously, and havent changed since that scan - making it almost instant.

 

[Msap14]

thats what i said above about kaspersky... you can tell it to skip files it scanned previously, and havent changed since that scan - making it almost instant.

that is a very nice feature, but would it require more memory usage so the program knows not to scan thsoe files?

edit: i don't think there is ever going to a perfect best working anti-virus program, each program will have its ups and downs, this is why comparison and research seem so crucial, you need to pick out exactly what seems to be the best fit for you.

 

[Mussels]

that is a very nice feature, but would it require more memory usage so the program knows not to scan thsoe files?

edit: i don't think there is ever going to a perfect best working anti-virus program, each program will have its ups and downs, this is why comparison and research seem so crucial, you need to pick out exactly what seems to be the best fit for you.

no, no extra memory. maybe a few MB of hard drive space, but not memory.

file name, file size, file last modified - if they dont match up, scan it again.

 

[Msap14]

does kaspersky have a firewall feature that allows the user to set indivudal blocks for programs/websites?

getting back at the norton issue, just something i felt i should say: never had any problems uninstalling norton, everytime we bought the new version of norton (at least on my personal computer) i would uninstall the old norton completely so the new one had a fresh install so there was no extra space being taken up by the old norton. I have a thought to if norton was uninstalled incorrectly perhaps that would leave the system with some problems. i like the features of norton and have never had problem with it, i woudld like to see it get a scan feature like kaspersky's and i will check to see if it does or not when i get home.

just noticed my school uses symantec endpoint for protection

 

[Mussels]

does kaspersky have a firewall feature that allows the user to set indivudal blocks for programs/websites?

getting back at the norton issue, just something i felt i should say: never had any problems uninstalling norton, everytime we bought the new version of norton (at least on my personal computer) i would uninstall the old norton completely so the new one had a fresh install so there was no extra space being taken up by the old norton. I have a thought to if norton was uninstalled incorrectly perhaps that would leave the system with some problems. i like the features of norton and have never had problem with it, i woudld like to see it get a scan feature like kaspersky's and i will check to see if it does or not when i get home.

just noticed my school uses symantec endpoint for protection

programs yes, not sure about websites. i know it has an autoblacklist for known virus/hack sites, i've ran into a few (someone sends an MSN link due to a virus and i'm dumb enough to click it, kaspersky warns me and takes me away from the page)


edit: no, i cannot seem to block websites. Then again, i've never needed to... i just do it manually via my hosts file.

 

[dustyshiv]

Symantec Endpoint protection Small Business edition! No activation or Expiration!! Less hog on resources!!

 

[neoreif]

@Mussels

Just wondering, what edition of Kaspersky are you using right now?

 

[Mussels]

@Mussels

Just wondering, what edition of Kaspersky are you using right now?

kaspersky internet security 2010 (aka version 9)

 

[neoreif]

I see! Same as mine! I asked because I just use the parental control feature of KIS 2010 to block individual/unwanted websites! Just an FYI.

 

[Mussels]

I see! Same as mine! I asked because I just use the parental control feature of KIS 2010 to block individual/unwanted websites! Just an FYI.

ahhh, i see. I'd disabled that feature, thinking i'd not need it.

edit: should say i didnt INSTALL that feature, so i dont get any options relating to it.

 

[neoreif]

Hehe! That may be the reason for it. But anyways, based on experience, KIS maybe slower than other AVs when it comes to scans (automatic and on-demand) but it really did'nt give me problems or headaches!

 

[Mussels]

Hehe! That may be the reason for it. But anyways, based on experience, KIS maybe slower than other AVs when it comes to scans (automatic and on-demand) but it really did'nt give me problems or headaches!

nod32 was my previous favourite, but it tended to break various things... Company of heroes was a great example, as was supreme commander. It seemed to think one program could talk only on one port, and blocked communication to the others (so if i joined a game, i could connect to the host - but not to any other clients, only letting me play 1v1, no team games)

thats the first thing that comes to mind with 'headaches' and antivirus, cause it took me aaaages to solve.

 

[Msap14]

Hehe! That may be the reason for it. But anyways, based on experience, KIS maybe slower than other AVs when it comes to scans (automatic and on-demand) but it really did'nt give me problems or headaches!

if anti virus is good enough at blocking theres no real need to scan 8P

 

[95Viper]

Personally i have never had any problems what so ever in removing Avast, NOD32 and Kaspersky ever. The ones you have listed is no biggy as they don't say if your computer Crashes, dies, runs slower then a 486, hangs, does not respond etc. And this is what happened to me only 2weeks ago with Nortons, i have never seen such a useless POS program that does all that^ just when trying to uninstall it. In my eyes they NEED that remove tool because in fact it is just that bad to remove Nortons. TBH i have never seen any of the removal tools for the other programs, guess thats because its very rare that you would need to use them, but Nortons ummm well yes i have heard this before from a few people so that speaks for its self. Sorry if i seems like im ranting but if a program cant even do a simple task like uninstall its self with out help and cripple a system in the mean time is just an epic fail.

I might of over exaggerated abit there, but Norton killed my inner child

I was not bashing you, I know Norton is a bear to un-install on some installs and has been known to cause a fubar or two. Norton has not been right since he sold it.

Sheez, I used to like his stuff back in the day, and it was free to use. His books were good, too.

Ah, times change, software goes commercial/big business and starts to turn into crudware.

 

[MT Alex]

I just installed Kaspersky 2010, and now my UserCP is acting strange. I have to refresh every time to see new posts in my subs, and sometimes posting a reply doesn't add the thread to my subs. GN also behaves rather strangely. I looked for a list of exceptions to add TPU and GN to, but am a little behind the curve.

 

[Mussels]

I just installed Kaspersky 2010, and now my UserCP is acting strange. I have to refresh every time to see new posts in my subs, and sometimes posting a reply doesn't add the thread to my subs. GN also behaves rather strangely. I looked for a list of exceptions to add TPU and GN to, but am a little behind the curve.

strange, i dont have those problems. they are upto 2011 in kaspersky, FYI.

 

[TIGR]

....Norton. I have never seen computers run so slow in my life, a comp killer, like Crysis lol....

Haha ... when new components are released, I'm going to start asking "but will it run Norton?"

 

[Rakesh95]

Bit defender or Kaspersky seem to do well. Im not running any AV at the moment.

 

[theorw]

I got KAspersky a few days ago and it seems to be doing great!Found a bunch of troyans too,cos i didnt have protection before...now i pay for this by w8ing for wow account reactivation...-.-

 

[grunt_408]

KIS 2011 anyone ftp://81.176.69.68/products/english/homeuser/kis2011/

 

[Mussels]

even if you already ghave kaspersky 2011, its worth noting they upgraded from 11.0.0.232 to 11.0.1.400 - and it WONT auto update between builds.

 

[Flak]

Over the weekend I went through and tested all the AV I could think of/find/get my hands on. I do this a couple times a year just to see how/if things have changed. And I have to say, the latest Avast is really nice for a freebie.