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Hi,

I probably made a bit of a mistake when I bought my 1070 Ti GTX and got one with quite a noisy cooler, I think it was an EVGA one I got (I cant recall to be honest).

Are there any aftermarket fan coolers worth considering that would give a quieter experience?

Thanks.
 
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Have you tried adjusting the fans manually using MSI Afterburner?
 
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Thanks for the reply. Does that fit all 1070 cards regardless of board type / layout etc?

Have you tried adjusting the fans manually using MSI Afterburner?
Yep, ive played around with it, however I prefer to have the fans at a higher speed to keep things cool. With this cooler (ACX 2.0? - I think) it sounds like a jet engine when doing 3D stuff.
 
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It fits any Pascal Card. I recommend using two of these https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Noctua/NF-A12x25_PWM/. I would also take the time to use Liquid Metal Conductonaut on the chip and Gelid GC Extreme Thermal pads on the memory and VRM.


The main advantage is you can use full 120 or even 140mm fans instead of the shitty 90mm fans on stock coolers.
 
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The EVGA series is basically a refence PCB withh better cooling ... but as we have seen lately, EVGA cooling on the SC and FTW lines (as well as 970) has been substandard. The new versions with the needed thermal pads are better but still not up to the other AIB cards from MSI / Asus / Gigglebyte

For the quietest experience, outside of a full custom loop, I'd recommend a Swiftech AIO on the CPU w/ auxillary water block, and, if ya have the room, a 2nd radiator. What case ?

https://www.swiftech.com/h320x2.aspx
 
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Morpheus tested to be cooler at the same noise level as AIO.
 

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Much cheaper too and no risk of leaks.
 

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Much cheaper too and no risk of leaks.
Not really cheaper, when you add the cost of fans. The NZXT G12 is $30 and an H55 is $60. So an AIO would cost $90. The Morpheus II is $65 by itself, and a couple decent fans at you're right at the same $90 price point.
 
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£61 + 2x £20 and that's assuming you're buying the absolute best fans or don't have any spare. The AIO's we're talking about are ones that actually achieve performance parity, so an H55 is not being considered. A 240/280mm radiator combo would be needed for comparable performance/noise.
 
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£65 + 2x £20 and that's assuming you're buying the absolute best fans or don't have any spare. The AIO's we're talking about are ones that actually achieve performance parity, so an H55 is not being considered.
That's just the first one I picked. If you prefer, the Coolermaster Masterliquid 240 can be had for $60 instead of the H55, and it will compete with the Morpheus II.
 

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It fits any Pascal Card. I recommend using two of these https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Noctua/NF-A12x25_PWM/. I would also take the time to use Liquid Metal Conductonaut on the chip and Gelid GC Extreme Thermal pads on the memory and VRM.


The main advantage is you can use full 120 or even 140mm fans instead of the shitty 90mm fans on stock coolers.
not to try and discredit your post. but i think its a little OTT especially when it comes to thermal compound. MX-4 will be just fine and its a bit cheaper.

The general complaint is that the cooler is noisy. That can be fixed with the rajintek you linked to. Pascal runs pretty cool anyway and MX-4 will be a big improvement over the stock thermal paste already.

Its like youre spending a lot of money for very very diminishing returns.

@Ben_UK -- I recommend getting some Noctua Redux fans, They tend to be a bit cheaper than the regular Noctua line up and are still very very good.
 
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Considering the "Master"liquid 240 has temperatures 10c higher than the NH-D15, I don't think it would provide better or equal cooling to the Morpheus II. The reason I suggested those specific fans is because they're better performing and also quieter than the redux. Conductonaut can be had for £10 so it's not a huge expense, and you can use the leftovers on the CPU, another advantage is that you won't need to repaste in a year or so, it's fine to leave it on. Typically reduces temps by about 2-3c compared to the best conventional paste, which means you can run the fans slower/quieter for the same performance.

You can also run it with just one fan and it's still about 90% as good as two fans.
 

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Considering the "Master"liquid 240 has temperatures 10c higher than the NH-D15, I don't think it would provide better or equal cooling to the Morpheus II.
Considering I've seen the H55 keep a 1080Ti below 60°C, and below 55°C in BF1, I wouldn't really worry about the beefier Coolermaster not performing well. Heck, I wouldn't even bother with it, since it is just harder to fit in a case, and I'd stick with the H55.

After all, pretty much every hybrid 1080Ti uses basically the same H55 cooler, and I've never seen any of them have any heat issues. And that is all that really matters. It doens't matter if the GPU is running at 60°C or 55°C, because either temperature is down right great.
 
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140mm fans on a Morpeus II? You sure about that? 120s hang over enough as it is. I don't see 140s fitting with the stock clips. I don't have one on hand to try it on mine though. So I can't verify that. That pic 2 posts above is a 120mm, for reference.

I also recommend the Accelero Xtreme IV. If that fit my Vega 64 I would have bought it instead of the Morphues II. As I don't believe that the Morphues II is much, if at all, better. Certainly not 60W better. On my super-mega-overclocked and overvolted 280X the Accelero Xtreme IV keeps it below 60°C at all times. And I know for sure it's well over 300W TDP at the speeds I run it at(probably closer to 400W).

EDIT: Those Noctuas are likely the quietest. But they are definitely not the best as far as pressure or flow.
 
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You would be surprised, most testing puts the Noctuas at 1500rpm the equal of EK Vardars at 2000rpm for CFM. My point is, when you can get 50c cooling on air, why bother with water? It's more risk, and mostly more expensive.
 
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I know you can't always believe what's on the box. But...

Noctua NF-A12x25
Max airflow : 60 CFM(@ 2000rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.34 mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

EK-Vardar F3-120
Max airflow : 63 CFM(@ 1850 rpm)
Max static pressure: 2.24mm H2O(@1850 rpm)

There are many higher pressure, and/or higher airflow, 120mm fans than both of those at the same, relatively similar, or even slower speeds...

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM
Max airflow : 70.8 CFM(@ 1700rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.83 mm H2O(@ 1700 rpm)

Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 (IP67/PWM)
Max airflow : 71.74 CFM(@ 2000rpm)
Max static pressure : 3.94mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Enermax TwisterPressure 12cm
Max airflow : 79.96 CFM(@ 1800 rpm)
Max static pressure: 3.845mm H2O(@ 1800 rpm)

Enermax TwisterStorm 12cm
Max airflow : 72.46 CFM(@ 1500 rpm)
Max static pressure: 2.512mm H2O(@ 1500 rpm)

Enermax LIQTECH fans(on LIQTECH 120X, 240(TR4/TR4 II) & 360(TR4/TR4 II) AIO coolers)
Max airflow : 88.9 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure: 4.7mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Enermax LIQMAX II fans(on LIQMAX II 120S & 240 AIO coolers)
Max airflow : 96 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure: 3.0mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Enermax LIQFUSION fans(on LIQFUSION 240 AIO coolers)
Max airflow : 102.17 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure: 6.28 mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Arctic BioniX F120
Max airflow : 69 CFM(@ 1800 rpm)
Max static pressure : not specified

Cooler Master MasterFan Pro 120 Air Flow
Max airflow : 84.5 CFM(@ 1900 rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.61mm H20(@ 1900 rpm)

Cooler Master Blade Master 120
Max airflow : 76.8 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure : 3.90mm H20(@ 2000 rpm)

Cooler Master JetFlo 120
Max airflow : 95 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.72mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Cooler Master SickleFlow 120
Max airflow : not specified
Max static pressure : 2.94mm(@ 2000 rpm)

Scythe Grand Flex 120
Max airflow : 76.6 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure : 3.2mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Scythe Kaze Flex 120
Max airflow : 89.04 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.99mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

XIGMATEK SC120 RGB
Max airflow : 78 CFM(@ 1800 rpm)
Max static pressure : 5.59mm H2O(@ 1800 rpm)

To name a few. ;)
 
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My point is, when you can get 50c cooling on air, why bother with water? It's more risk, and mostly more expensive.
Not having an ugly 4-slot monstrosity in your case, the option to still use a backplate, the quieter operation of only needing a single fan, the option to exhaust GPU heat directly out of the case, not having a stupidly heavy heatsink hanging off your graphics card causing sag...etc.
 

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I know you can't always believe what's on the box. But...

Noctua NF-A12x25
Max airflow : 60 CFM(@ 2000rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.34 mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

EK-Vardar F3-120
Max airflow : 63 CFM(@ 1850 rpm)
Max static pressure: 2.24mm H2O(@1850 rpm)

There are many higher pressure, and/or higher airflow, 120mm fans than both of those at the same, relatively similar, or even slower speeds...

Noctua NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM
Max airflow : 70.8 CFM(@ 1700rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.83 mm H2O(@ 1700 rpm)

Noctua NF-F12 industrialPPC-2000 (IP67/PWM)
Max airflow : 71.74 CFM(@ 2000rpm)
Max static pressure : 3.94mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Enermax TwisterPressure 12cm
Max airflow : 79.96 CFM(@ 1800 rpm)
Max static pressure: 3.845mm H2O(@ 1800 rpm)

Enermax TwisterStorm 12cm
Max airflow : 72.46 CFM(@ 1500 rpm)
Max static pressure: 2.512mm H2O(@ 1500 rpm)

Enermax LIQTECH fans(on LIQTECH 120X, 240(TR4/TR4 II) & 360(TR4/TR4 II) AIO coolers)
Max airflow : 88.9 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure: 4.7mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Enermax LIQMAX II fans(on LIQMAX II 120S & 240 AIO coolers)
Max airflow : 96 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure: 3.0mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Enermax LIQFUSION fans(on LIQFUSION 240 AIO coolers)
Max airflow : 102.17 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure: 6.28 mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Arctic BioniX F120
Max airflow : 69 CFM(@ 1800 rpm)
Max static pressure : not specified

Cooler Master MasterFan Pro 120 Air Flow
Max airflow : 84.5 CFM(@ 1900 rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.61mm H20(@ 1900 rpm)

Cooler Master Blade Master 120
Max airflow : 76.8 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure : 3.90mm H20(@ 2000 rpm)

Cooler Master JetFlo 120
Max airflow : 95 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.72mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Cooler Master SickleFlow 120
Max airflow : not specified
Max static pressure : 2.94mm(@ 2000 rpm)

Scythe Grand Flex 120
Max airflow : 76.6 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure : 3.2mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

Scythe Kaze Flex 120
Max airflow : 89.04 CFM(@ 2000 rpm)
Max static pressure : 2.99mm H2O(@ 2000 rpm)

XIGMATEK SC120 RGB
Max airflow : 78 CFM(@ 1800 rpm)
Max static pressure : 5.59mm H2O(@ 1800 rpm)

To name a few. ;)
Corsair ML Pros are also good... Just buy the ones without the LEDs to save some cash.
 
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Max airflow : 60 CFM(@ 2000rpm)
You're ignoring the original issue the OP brought up. It's about noise.

At the same DBA, the Noctuas push the most air.

Who gives a shit about backplates?

Use a gpu brace if you're worried about sag.

Even against 140mm fans, the Noctuas are quieter for the same CFA.
 

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Who gives a shit about backplates?
People who like the way their system looks, or don't want their GPU to crack in half from the weight of a heavy cooler.

Use a gpu brace if you're worried about sag.
Yet more cost added to the Morpheus II. The "much cheaper" solution is becoming more expensive than an AIO pretty quickly...
 
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Except the AIOs are worse in performance and noise levels, as well as reliability. You can use a stick as a gpu brace, or a piece of wood, or some flipping string, it's not a difficult task if you think about it. AIOs are "much cheaper" if you just want to get equivalent performance, but to get equivalent noise levels at the same performance it's about the same price, with the added downsides of being potentially unreliable. Just because you have a fetish for liquid cooling everything because it's cool doesn't mean it's the best option.
 
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Except the AIOs are worse in performance and noise levels, as well as reliability. You can use a stick as a gpu brace, or a piece of wood, or some flipping string, it's not a difficult task if you think about it. AIOs are "much cheaper" if you just want to get equivalent performance, but to get equivalent noise levels at the same performance it's about the same price, with the added downsides of being potentially unreliable. Just because you have a fetish for liquid cooling everything because it's cool doesn't mean it's the best option.
Actually, it isn't really a fetish with liquid cooler, I'd actually much prefer an air cooler that wasn't an ugly 4 slot monster.

But, like I said, an H55 would easily give more than good enough performance while being just as quiet and looks much better. Does it really matter if you get 50°C with the Morpheus and 55°C with the H55? NO, it makes absolutely no difference other than to brag. Not to mention the H55 doesn't risk warping the ever living shit out of the PCB. If he wants to go air cooler, fine, pick something better than the Morpheus. The Accelero Xtreme IV at least doesn't look like you just ghetto rigged a couple fans to the card with some bent paperclips. And while it still makes the card 4 slots wide, at least one of the slots is on top of the GPU, where there almost never is a card anyway, and it comes with the fans, a backplate, and a brace to support he extra weight.

The reliability argument is really moot, the modern AIOs have proven to be very reliable.
 
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#25
The cooler itself is 2 slots wide. The fans you use can make it between 3 and 4 slots depending.
As for ugliness that's entirely subjective. To me it's nice and industrial.
As for weight it won't be much more than the larger custom boards at 515g.
The point is, one that you seem to have avoided entirely, this entire thread is about noise levels. Sure, an H55 can provide similar cooling levels, but at 2000rpm+, this means it's DBA will be a lot higher than the 25DBa of the Noctua fans at their max RPM, and 20 at their nominal.
 
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