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Blu-ray has 5 Years Left says Samsung

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After having won the battle for supremacy over HD DVD, Blu-ray is on its way to become the standard consumer video format. It is not just a format, it's an industry in itself which begins from HD content creation production houses to recording companies to the consumers who again, invest in necessary equipment such as high-definition displays, Blu-ray disc players, etc. An important name in this industry, Samsung, which makes high definition televisions and players has noted that the format has five years left to remain a premium content format.

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blu ray says epic fail, to me there is no massive need for blu ray
we have downloads and dvds sometimes are big enuf

movies dont need blu ray size disks and blu ray dosnt add significant improvement over dvd to persuade me to buy a full new collection

i think that storage sector should or is starting to use high capacity memory and external hard drives


people believe they need it if they have a hd tv but they dont, also cheaper to et an upconvertor

5 years is short considering dvd was all the way back to 1996-97 then it got popular around 2000
 
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blu ray says epic fail, to me there is no massive need for blu ray
we have downloads and dvds sometimes are big enuf

movies dont need blu ray size disks and blu ray dosnt add significant improvement over dvd to persuade me to buy a full new collection

i think that storage sector should or is starting to use high capacity memory and external hard drives


people believe they need it if they have a hd tv but they dont, also cheaper to et an upconvertor

5 years is short considering dvd was all the way back to 1996-97 then it got popular around 2000
Do you own a Blu-ray player?
 
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Yeah, downloadable content to a HTPC > paying for blu ray discs/players.

I just got Good Will Hunting in HD, beyotch. WHAT NOT?!
 

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First of all, this is a guess made by a guy. It doesn't mean it's anywhere near the truth.

Secondly, if you think upconverted DVDs look just as good as a BluRay, then you are in serious need of glasses, or you've never actually watched a BluRay on a decent TV.

And digital downloads, while better than DVD, pale in comparison to BluRay as well. My Good Will Hunting on BD not only looks better than a download, but likely sounds better too.

The current infrastructure in the US is not up to the task of heavy HD downloads as the primary way to get HD, not to mention the announcement that many ISPs made about considering to go to a pay per bandwidth scheme. Sorry, but downloadable HD just won't be going anywhere for a while.

I'm willing to bet there are many consumers out there that also prefer to have a physical copy of the movies they buy. I know I do. I trust an optical disc a hell of a lot more than I trust a hard drive to store my media on a permanent basis.
 

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First of all, this is a guess made by a guy. It doesn't mean it's anywhere near the truth.

Secondly, if you think upconverted DVDs look just as good as a BluRay, then you are in serious need of glasses, or you've never actually watched a BluRay on a decent TV.

And digital downloads, while better than DVD, pale in comparison to BluRay as well. My Good Will Hunting on BD not only looks better than a download, but likely sounds better too.

The current infrastructure in the US is not up to the task of heavy HD downloads as the primary way to get HD, not to mention the announcement that many ISPs made about considering to go to a pay per bandwidth scheme. Sorry, but downloadable HD just won't be going anywhere for a while.

I'm willing to bet there are many consumers out there that also prefer to have a physical copy of the movies they buy. I know I do. I trust an optical disc a hell of a lot more than I trust a hard drive to store my media on a permanent basis.

^^What he said^^

MilkyWay, you don't have to buy your entire collection again. I know this is hard for you to grasp, lord knows I have told it to you at least twice already, but Blu-Ray players can play DVD's too. Your entire DVD collection doesn't become useless the day you buy a Blu-Ray player. You can still watch them. I personally don't buy a single Blu-Ray movie that I already own on DVD, but every new movie purchase is on Blu-Ray.
 
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So whats after blue-ray. I say we put everything on flash drives. And get rid of the cd format all together.
 

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So whats after blue-ray. I say we put everything on flash drives. And get rid of the cd format all together.
As a step in that direction, I heard some of the graphics card manufactures were going to start shipping their cards with USB Flash Drives with the drivers on them instead of the standard driver CD.
 

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As a step in that direction, I heard some of the graphics card manufactures were going to start shipping their cards with USB Flash Drives with the drivers on them instead of the standard driver CD.
I think I've heard about that too. That sounds familiar. Some companies are already starting to put software on flashdrives afaik. But I think it would be a great idea. Only prob i can really think of right now would be loosing them.
 
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no i just meant that i already have this collection i know blu ray can do dvds but its damn cheaper to get the dvd version and then some people will upgrade there collection

i know that it is better quality but to me its not worth the price of getting a player and the extra money on the disks

£25 upconvertor or a £100-£200 blu ray player? add in the expense of the new movies

there is an imax theatre at the Glasgow science centre Superman on that shit was nice :pimp:
 
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So whats after blue-ray. I say we put everything on flash drives. And get rid of the cd format all together.
2013, the age of the mini disc. :]
 
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I'll give blu-ray about 7-8 years, but I still don't think most people will have a blu-ray play for about 2-3 years. I know blu-ray looks way better but personally I just can't justify paying $300+ for the player and $30 for each movie. DVD is just fine for me right now.

I just think blu-ray is fighting a losing battle because when most of the internet is switeched over to fiber-optics digitial distribution will be the way to go. Sadly this kind of scares me because I hate all the DRM issues out there right now.
 
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well having a 100 mb flash drive or a cd just to hold around 100mb of drivers
is a flash drive really cheaper than a cd tho?


steam style movie downloading would be cool tho, but they have to let you transfer the movie to a hard drive so that you can take it to your friends or whatever
 

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To all those people who THINK blu-ray isnt worth it: You know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Take a DVD and Blu-ray disc of the same movie and compare it on a 54" LCD HDTV. Tell me it ain't worth it. Of course there's no real benefit for blu-ray over dvd when you're watching it on a 27" 4:3 tube.

Even with upscaling with the best DVD players, I notice a huge improvement with blu-ray. In fact, blu-ray spoils you and you end up thinking dvd's look worse than they really do.

BTW - I chose a random movie to compare prices with. List price for the ruins DVD: 35. List price for the ruins blu-ray: 40. Amazon has them for 22 and 20 respectively. 2 bucks for added clarity is definitely worth it to me, but then again, I have a sweet job.
 

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no i just meant that i already have this collection i know blu ray can do dvds but its damn cheaper to get the dvd version and then some people will upgrade there collection

i know that it is better quality but to me its not worth the price of getting a player and the extra money on the disks

£25 upconvertor or a £100-£200 blu ray player? add in the expense of the new movies

there is an imax theatre at the Glasgow science centre Superman on that shit was nice :pimp:
The movies themselves aren't really that much more expensive on Blu-Ray than on DVD, usually over about $5 more.

In all honesty, I wouldn't have a Blu-Ray player if it wasn't for the fact that I bought a PS3. I wouldn't pay the outragous prices for a stand-alone blu-ray player.

Upconverting DVD is good enough for me, but certainly isn't close to blu-ray, the the players cost about half what they do now, I would consider them.
 
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To all those people who THINK blu-ray isnt worth it: You know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Take a DVD and Blu-ray disc of the same movie and compare it on a 54" LCD HDTV. Tell me it ain't worth it. Of course there's no real benefit for blu-ray over dvd when you're watching it on a 27" 4:3 tube.

Even with upscaling with the best DVD players, I notice a huge improvement with blu-ray. In fact, blu-ray spoils you and you end up thinking dvd's look worse than they really do.
Well if I could afford blu-ray and all that stuff I definitely would buy it, but sadly I don't have tons of money so I have to be kind of selective with the funds I have. Yeah life sucks when your 18 years old and have to pay for college :cry:.
 
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No blu-ray here.


Sony can kiss my ass, the PS2 was the last good thing they made.
 
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im so tempted to thank steevo, if you own a ps3 by all means you have a blu ray player get blu ray dvds but at least some of you agree that its not worth buying a player ect

i dont have a 52inch tv lol but if i did id get sky HD and watch sky movies HD

the cheapest blu ray option is getting a ps3 or a blu ray drive for your pc, yet if you dont want a ps3 and blu ray on the pc is the worst option

infact monitors go to a higher res than tvs so blu ray would be good on a pc


sony ps2 was actually shit, sure i had one but looking back the only decent games where few and far God of War was good and a few multiformats so many random and crappy games like spyro and movie tie ins
 
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I'll go blu-ray when every other self respecting person does, whcih is right after I watcha blu-ray movie at one fo my buddies who has a 60" full hd screen hooked to a 4kilawatt sound system and won't shut up about how cool his setup is. I mean, why else does someone buy these things? it's all about the jones's. but until them I'll stick with my upconverting dvd player and my ovelia 32" hdtv.
 
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I have hardware that is mostly capable, but the DRM crap associated with all the blu-ray is what I dislike and Sony getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar too many times. Rootkit, phone home, some of the same things other companies get thrown to the dogs for.



DRM filled music died, the consumers don't want it. Yes there were some who did, I have some I bought, but overall the consuemr rejected it. Blu-ray is still being touted as the next big thing, but looking at video rental places DVD still outweighs Blu-Ray by a large margin, as well as at stores, etc....

Consumers don't want to move from something they have and are comfortable with, especially when they feel fear over new tech, it is cost prohibitive, they feel they can get equal value from HD cable and other sources.
 
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I'll go blu-ray when every other self respecting person does, whcih is right after I watcha blu-ray movie at one fo my buddies who has a 60" full hd screen hooked to a 4kilawatt sound system and won't shut up about how cool his setup is. I mean, why else does someone buy these things? it's all about the jones's. but until them I'll stick with my upconverting dvd player and my ovelia 32" hdtv.
Do you own a Blu-ray player?
Hey that is the reason I first asked the above question. You need to experience it to fall in love with it. Even if its a 32", as long it is a LCD BD movies will look much better. I have a 50" Full HD Sony tv and that is the reason when LG released their HDDVD/BD drive I was one of the first few who jumped onto that the day they released it. Picture quality is awesome but the software sucks, man I wish I would have just bought a regular Blu-ray stand alone player (I should have listened to my wife atleast on this:p).
 

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I agree with Wile E and Suraswami. I have watched blu ray movies, mainly on my 32" Vizio 720p LCD and even with the "downconvert" (HP OOTP) looks a hell of alot better on BD than on the DVD I got of it. This portion ties in with one of the discussions Wile E, Easy Rhino and I had on PS3 clubhouse, but I did watch the blu ray of hp ootp and then the TurboHD Dish version of it and you guys were right, the differences were a bit better than I originally had thought.

So the quality is there, but Id like to see the players and discs fall in line sooner than 5 years.
 
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Since 90% of films are rubbish, rubbish in low quality is OK with me. I'd hate to see high quality rubbish. :nutkick:

For everyone comparing prices... please remember that in Europe there is still a BIG price differential between DVD and BR. Much more than "$5".

BR is great IMO - once you got the movie playing. But all that DRM, forced trailers, et al, gets on my nerves.

I actually have my butler rip most of my DVDs, selecting ENGLISH, NO SUBTITLES, and NO TRAILERS. That way I can just get on with the film. The WORST is kids movies/episodes. You only want the children to watch "one show" of 5 minutes... but you have to watch 10 minutes of blxxdy trailers.
 
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And digital downloads, while better than DVD, pale in comparison to BluRay as well. My Good Will Hunting on BD not only looks better than a download, but likely sounds better too.
Someone isn't d/l BR rips :p


I am :D
 

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Someone isn't d/l BR rips :p


I am :D
That's completely different than the HD being offered as a paid service. lol.

And the rips still aren't of the same quality. But they are still excellent.
 
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That's completely different than the HD being offered as a paid service. lol.

And the rips still aren't of the same quality. But they are still excellent.
I get the x264s or straight copies that are 20 GBs. Whichever I feel :)
 

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I STILL roll with two VCR's. I've also got a 5 disc CD changer made by pioneer in 1983. Two cabinets with two twelves in each and its loud as hell. I see no need to buy something new if it still works great. On exception to VCR cause my movies are fading...
 

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I get the x264s or straight copies that are 20 GBs. Whichever I feel :)
Well, considering many BDs are already encoded in H.264 to begin with, those smaller rips you see are still compressed to hell and back compared to the original content.

As for the 20GB downloads, yes, they are full quality, but they are in no way practical from the perspective of an HD download service, which is what was being referred to earlier. Not the pirated stuff. lol.
 
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Well, considering many BDs are already encoded in H.264 to begin with, those smaller rips you see are still compressed to hell and back compared to the original content.

As for the 20GB downloads, yes, they are full quality, but they are in no way practical from the perspective of an HD download service, which is what was being referred to earlier. Not the pirated stuff. lol.
What is this legal download service you speak of? :roll:
I'm on my pirate ship 24/7. :)

And this Samsung guy is nuts. A storage medium is required and people aren't going to be buying new tech. again and new media again with the same old movies. It just isn't going to happen. Look how hard it is to switch to BR. Such a close transition is unlikely I think.