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Borderlands 3 Possibly Exclusive to Epic Games Store on PC, Fans Worry Based on Old Tweet

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lol.

Facebook
Using an Android smartphone
Having any number of digital accounts
Siri
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Any digital account
Your bank details
Your birth records
Being alive in the 21st century

You lost your freedoms by taking a breath today.

Do you really think people actually care about privacy? It only matters when some PCMR noob jockey thinks someone is taking their liberty away. You never had it to begin with. Ted Kaczynski had it. He lived in a shack.

Go write your manifesto now and then come back to us.

It's all a big joke that people think their liberty has been robbed because they need to download another game installer.

Grow the fuck up.
I always knew my family tree wasn't lying about the castle in Dumfries.

The Epic store software is a virus and violates EU laws, Done.
Do tell. We'll build the heuristics profile and send it out together. I'll give you credit for breaking the story.
 
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Not exactly. Valve charges based on how many copies a game sells on Steam. From 20% to 30%. With a game like Borderlands 3 (if it's good) the rate would probably be 20%. Epic charges a flat rate of 12% right now so that means that it would cost 8% more for Gearbox to put it on Steam. That cuts into Gearbox's profit by about 5 million dollars per million units sold on Steam versus Epic Store. Still, that is a lot of profit lost by Gearbox but then you have to factor in lost sales because of the people that refuse to sign up for an Epic account and pirate the game when they can.

Until we know what the sales were for Exodus on the Epic Store it's hard to know.
Yeh I though EGS was charging 10% and steam charges 30% hence the 20%... But anyways my point was the difference of the two and you got my point =)
 
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ah, Borderlands 3. finally :)
I've played the original Borderlands nearly 10 years ago. I always playing it with my cousin and it was so much fun :D I definitely will gonna buy it, regardless the store platform. I'm not only have steam, but also uplay, origin, blizzard, gog and epic. so, it's doesn't matter for me. maybe because I'm just a noob, I don't know the differences between these platforms :p what I want is just to play the games. if the game is on steam, then I definitely buy it. but if it's not (e.g. Diablo), then I will buy it on their respective platforms. I still don't get it why people glorify one particular platform and loathe another platform.

which makes me wonder, is any of you can give me objective comparisson between Steam and Epic?

or all of these are just subjective matters?
 
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maybe because I'm just a noob, I don't know the differences between these platforms :p what I want is just to play the games.
Nah, it isn't you. That is what these things are for.

which makes me wonder, is any of you can give me objective comparisson between Steam and Epic?
Oh boi, you're about to get buried in 5 pages of 'coz teh steamz betterz'.
 
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ah, Borderlands 3. finally :)
I've played the original Borderlands nearly 10 years ago. I always playing it with my cousin and it was so much fun :D I definitely will gonna buy it, regardless the store platform. I'm not only have steam, but also uplay, origin, blizzard, gog and epic. so, it's doesn't matter for me. maybe because I'm just a noob, I don't know the differences between these platforms :p what I want is just to play the games. if the game is on steam, then I definitely buy it. but if it's not (e.g. Diablo), then I will buy it on their respective platforms. I still don't get it why people glorify one particular platform and loathe another platform.
which makes me wonder, is any of you can give me objective comparisson between Steam and Epic?
or all of these are just subjective matters?
Nah, it isn't you. That is what these things are for.
Oh boi, you're about to get buried in 5 pages of 'coz teh steamz betterz'.
Lemme throw first stone lol
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Imagine using 10 stores, 10 different apps. Updating, starting with Windows (Im aware You can turn it off). Is this the life You want to live?
 
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Imagine using 10 stores, 10 different apps. Updating, starting with Windows (Im aware You can turn it off). Is this the life You want to live?
Might just leave a pro tip to set any stores you dont generally used to delayed startup, thus your boot times shouldn't be quite so shit and first run screen quite so cluttered.
 
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Both Steem and Epic no longer honor user's review. Not buying anything from them ever again.
 
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Lemme throw first stone lol
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Imagine using 10 stores, 10 different apps. Updating, starting with Windows (Im aware You can turn it off). Is this the life You want to live?
The one item not listed on that chart which really tells you everything you need to know about how good of a storefront the EGS is, is the fact that it lacks a search function. That's like one of the 3 things you need to be a functional storefront.
 

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They are causing an upset. People are tired of having accounts all over the place just to do some gaming. The exclusivity nonsense is ultimately destructive in the long run. Then we have the blatant invasion of privacy at the hands of the Epic client. These are serious problems that require action and active resistance.
I'm sorry if I sound insensitive I don't really like the ideas of multi accounts either but hey even I am paying cbs just for star trek discovery since i cant just use my netflix heaven forbid. But I'm manning up and paying for it because whats the alternative? Storm cbs,disney,youtube,microsoft,epic,ea,ubisoft,bethesda, and amazons offices and demand that all digital movies and games be under one store? or complain online with oh why this and that? both options suck and go nowhere so i choose not the do them.
 
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Imagine using 10 stores, 10 different apps. Updating, starting with Windows (Im aware You can turn it off). Is this the life You want to live?
Yeah, not sure why I would allow any high impact startup like a game store to run at startup, much less 10 of them.
 
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Imagine using 10 stores, 10 different apps. Updating, starting with Windows (Im aware You can turn it off). Is this the life You want to live?
I mean I pretty much play one game at a time, so I really only need one store at a time.
 

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Since some of you decided to hijack this, thread bans issued and cleansed of all the offending posts.
 
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I dont wanna ban so I will put it short:
I have Borderlands, Borderlands 2 and Borderlands the pre-sequel on Steam.
I want Borderlands 3 there as well, all nice and tidy :)
Tidyness is the keyword here, maybe thats what mr Pitchford is lacking in his "mindset".
People who see big picture tend to miss detail.
 
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Oh yeah baby...
Randy "Child Porn" Pitchford, at it again.

On the topic of exclusivity, I dont buy games until they are $20 or less, so these year long exclusives dont concern me as much...
Only one game out there worthy of my (full priced) money and that's CP2077. And I'll be getting that directly on GOG, day 1.
 
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The fact they won't release games on discs proves they are after more than the initial purchase price from us.
"value addons" via game stores are where it is at, draining the consumers pockets.
 
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The fact they won't release games on discs proves they are after more than the initial purchase price from us.
"value addons" via game stores are where it is at, draining the consumers pockets.
If by value add ons you are referring to DLC then yes you can count on Borderlands 3 having a flood of DLC. Borderlands 2 had 46 DLCs. iirc the base game was $50 and soon after there was $103 worth of DLC. Garbage DLC and micro-transactions is where the money is these days. For example Ubisoft said last year in one of their Financial Statements that they now make more revenue from micro-transactions than they do from the actual games.
 

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I have no problems with Epic Games Store but I have problems with Borderlands. Seriously, I played a few hours of Borderlands 2 a few months ago and it all came flooding back. Namely, the grind, the boring/forgettable story, the sameness, the linear-ness, the consolitis, and so on. I'm not buying it because of EGS, no, I'm not buying it because I have no expectation that it is a good game worth buying.

If the lottery was ever a video game, Borderlands is what it would be. You keep on looking in every portapotty, pile of dung, and trash can for that 1:1,000 chance it will spawn something worth having. I'll be busy not doing that. :roll:
 
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If its an exclusive ill pass.
Or go the other route.

If it was on steam id play it.
Even pay more on steam :p
 
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Good, people need more choice and valve need more competition.

Valve have made buying games a game and people bought into it hook line and sinker....

I can't wait to play it without the mindless zealots who think valve have their backs with steam.
 
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Good, people need more choice and valve need more competition.
Valve have made buying games a game and people bought into it hook line and sinker....
I can't wait to play it without the mindless zealots who think valve have their backs with steam.
okay,all due respect to people talking about healthy competition and all.
Wouldnt it be "healthy" if both stores had it?
So You can choose? (I know its not easy to do so, but oh well)

If its only a niche shop exclusive, like Borderlands 3 has a chance to become, then we have no choice whatsoever.
Id say its against the rights of a consumer (in a weird, flawed way but bare with me).

Its like, imagine You are standing neck high in a puddle of urine, and there is a person ready to shovel excrement all over Your face.
Will You dive in the piss? or will You take on the s***?

But, I will wait until an actual reveal, before I get carried away with my imagination.
mr Pitchford dont let me down.
 
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Yeah, not sure why I would allow any high impact startup like a game store to run at startup, much less 10 of them.
Yeah... not sure what the problem is with just clicking the icon of the game you want to play, have the 'store' fire itself up because its required to open the game in question. Job done, no long boot, no 865101 applications running in background. If you frequent one store, you can have it on startup. Tons of options! But somehow, the best option to people is 'not installing it' because its a new icon :D

I also love how dozens of insignificant (or downright false) things are dragged along to make a point about EGS. They'll survive, though, I have no doubt about that. In a year from now I think quite a few people here will be looking at their posts in amazement. The bandwagon is real.

okay,all due respect to people talking about healthy competition and all.
Wouldnt it be "healthy" if both stores had it?
So You can choose? (I know its not easy to do so, but oh well)

If its only a niche shop exclusive, like Borderlands 3 has a chance to become, then we have no choice whatsoever.
Id say its against the rights of a consumer (in a weird, flawed way but bare with me).

Its like, imagine You are standing neck high in a puddle of urine, and there is a person ready to shovel excrement all over Your face.
Will You dive in the piss? or will You take on the s***?

But, I will wait until an actual reveal, before I get carried away with my imagination.
mr Pitchford dont let me down.
You may consider it 'inconvenient' but let's compare it with something non-gaming:
Supermarket Y and Supermarket X. Y always sold you the Coca Cola, but now X has made an exclusivity deal and you don't generally go there. But, your favorite drink is Coca Cola.

What will you do? Not drink it? Or will you cave and find a way to make the trip to Supermarket X worthwhile, for example by combining it with other things you need nearby, or getting other products at Supermarket X while you're there anyway.

I think the answer to that is obvious. You adapt, because you don't want to lose your favorite drink. But now put that in the context of launchers/games. With launchers, the inconvenience is 100% emotional: you don't need to drive an extra mile, you don't need to reshuffle your shopping lists, you don't need to compare products between stores. All you need to do is click a mouse button and make a purchase. This isn't forced exclusivity, its self-imposed. You have the access, the hardware and the means, but you choose not to get a product. That is the market as it should be, and that is why products are exclusive to specific stores. The when and why is irrelevant, it is what it is, deal with it.

Note: I don't work for Coca Cola :D

PS: about healthy competition: NO. It is not healthy competition if every store sells the same products. Because all that is left then is for stores to compete on price, and that is a race to the bottom. That is EXACTLY why exclusives exist, and it is, ironically, also EXACTLY why Steam has built all sorts of additional features around their store. They offer things the competition doesn't have, or doesn't have yet. You could say integrated mod support for example, is exclusive to Steam at this point; and that may well be a reason not to get a game on EGS. On the other hand, you could also solve that with a bit of extra effort and a visit to Nexusmods. If you want something, you can make it happen, and EGS or exclusivity deals don't change any of that.
 
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Supermarket Y and Supermarket X. Y always sold you the Coca Cola, but now X has made an exclusivity deal and you don't generally go there. But, your favorite drink is Coca Cola.
What will you do? Not drink it? Or will you cave and find a way to make the trip to Supermarket X worthwhile, for example by combining it with other things you need nearby, or getting other products at Supermarket X while you're there anyway.
I think the answer to that is obvious. You adapt, because you don't want to lose your favorite drink. But now put that in the context of launchers/games. With launchers, the inconvenience is 100% emotional: you don't need to drive an extra mile, you don't need to reshuffle your shopping lists, you don't need to compare products between stores. All you need to do is click a mouse button and make a purchase. This isn't forced exclusivity, its self-imposed. You have the access, the hardware and the means, but you choose not to get a product.

Note: I don't work for Coca Cola :D
Thats a really nice example there. Thanks.
But what if there is one more factor? Like for example loyality points?
I tend to always shop in one supermarket bcoz once couple months I can get a bagfull of booze for free.
Thats what I get for loyality.

In gaming example, I dont get that much of a profit, but I have the convenience of having it all in one spot.

worth noting: using one shop at the time means that when You launch it to play You have to deal with updates,notes,changes and so on...
again, returning to an example with puddle of piss lol
 
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