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cdawall

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e7200 with luck and love will do 5ghz but a much more attainable clock on air is 4.7ghz or so at least for 24/7

5000BE will do 3.35ghz like mine with about 3hrs of work and will run there 24/7 now like i said that 4600X2 is a new chip its a windsor F3 those are well know to do 3.5ghz its the same core of the 6400BE with the cache disabled
 
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Well sense most games don't fully utalize/ support x-fire i think i will stay with the Intel system
 
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i cant tell the difference between AA on and off, so y kill framerates especially with my card.

AA is the 'jaggies' imagine you're seeing a power line and instead of appearing smooth it looks like as if the contours was made of little 'zzz'. Same goes for other stuff like tree trunks, practically any contours even those of your character.

AF is the clarity you get in a distance. Imagine you're viewing a long pebbly path. With no AF you see the pebbles beneath your nose but along the distance they blend. With AF you see the individual pebbles even quite far away.

AF is far less taxing on the video card than AA. A 512MB graphics card can cope with most of today's games AA quite well.
The larger your monitor and the higher the resolution you use, the more you will see the need to use AA and AF.
 
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i know what AA and AF are and what the do, it's just for the FPS drop they cause i don't think they are worth it because it really isn't that much of a difference
 

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i know what AA and AF are and what the do, it's just for the FPS drop they cause i don't think they are worth it because it really isn't that much of a difference

You wont have to worry about the loss with that E7200 :) I play everygame with 4x AA 8x-16x AF at 1440x900 with my rig.
 

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Just a word of warning :)


Those two items may not go well together if at all...the HDT-S1283 is the greatest cooler I've ever owned, BUT and it's BIG HUGE RIDICULOUSLY OVERSIZED BUT...it's also the biggest air cooler I've ever owned. Your stats show that your case is a Mid Tower and it's only 7.8" wide. The cooler is big enough that in my full tower case I had to remove the side fan and put it on the outside to fit...and I STILL only have approximately 3-5mm of space left between the side panel and the top of the cooler stems.

I don't believe that this cooler will fit inside your current case, so I'd recommend using the S963 instead as it's also wonderful and smaller for a very small "penalty" in cooling. It'd be more than enough I'd say for the E7200 if you end up with that instead of anything AMD.

I don't remember the exact size of the cooler but I know it's just shy 160mm (about 6 1/4") in height and of course that does not count your socket and cpu underneath the cooler and the raised motherboard tray which I believe will put you at least 25-30mm outside your case. The S963 on the other hand is only 134mm (about 5 1/4") in height which should be about right for your needs while keeping fantastic cooling to boot.

Good luck on the build,

K
 
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I also have a full tower antec case, i just didnt want to use it because it uses 4 80 mm fans instead of the 120 and it has no side vent, so if it dosnt fit in the ultra ill but it into the antec
 

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Koo, if you really want a side vent you could always mod the case quite easily with a well placed cut from a hole saw. You could ensure you have the air going where you need it as long as you remember to make the rest of the case optimized for the flow. Not sure if you'd want to mod/cut your case but it's a thought...

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Ok i have one last question guys,
what would have better performance gains at 1680 by 1050, a 5000+ overclocked with crossfired overclocked 3870
or
a stock Intel E7200 with one overclocked 3870?
also i am looking for future upgradability. The intel would be on a DFI DK P35 and the amd would be on a DFI DK 790FX
 

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Well sense most games don't fully utalize/ support x-fire i think i will stay with the Intel system

yes they do? crysis does so do the NFS titles bioshock what games don't support it?
 
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Some of the older games like TF2 and other steam based games that i like to play
 

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Some of the older games like TF2 and other steam based games that i like to play

They arent old? Plus Valve used to use ATi cards to make there games, kinda like TWIMTBP thing by nvidia and I can play TF2 and HL2 with 16x AA and still get 60fps with a single card.
 
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what i was saying, about the older (as in not very new) games, was thy don't fully utilize x-fire
 

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what i was saying, about the older (as in not very new) games, was thy don't fully utilize x-fire

They may not fully utilize it but games that dont still get a healthy boost from having two cards.
 
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They may not fully utilize it but games that dont still get a healthy boost from having two cards.

that's true, in non multi-gpu games. I still got an 15% increase. But for some games I got more. With FEAR I only got 50fps with a single card. But with two I get 92fps. So even if the games doesn't support it, you will see an increase. It might not be as high as should or atleast could be. But it does help
 
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so would a 5000+ over clocked with x-fire 3870's on a 790fx
or
a E7200 stock with one 3870 on a P35 perform beter in games like Crysis, CoD4 and Oblivion (1680 by 1050 res, and high settings.)
 
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Could anyone help me, i am going to buy soon, and i really don't know if i should get the:
5000+ BE and overclock it with 2 3870's in crossfire on a DFI DK 790FK
or
the E7200 with one 3870 on a P35,
(note: the video cards will also be overclocked.)
 

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in games the first one will win hands down in benchmarks the second one will win hands down


oh and if you want to save a couple bucks you could do HD3850 512mbs and flash them to 1.32v in the BIOS so you can clock them just like a 3870

hehe if you save enough you could get 3 and embarrass the e7200 rig in games and benchmarks
 
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tyvm you have no clue how much that helped! lol, i could care less about benchmarks all i want is PERFORMANCE! so i am going to go with the AMD rig and get a 3850 as a secondary card and overclock it to 3870 speeds. (the 3850 is $25 than the 3870 and comes with a bunch of steam games [HL2, Portal, etc.])
 

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lol no probs man you see my rig i built the best gaming PC i could afford now if i could just afford some games :roll:
 
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ok so for the final build i will get the 500-+ and overclock it, then i will get a second 3870 and put it all on a DFI 790FX with 2 gig's of ddr2 800 mushkinm all of this will be on a 19 in monitor and powered by a corsair 550 watt
 
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ok guys i just got a little bigger of a budget and now I'm wondering what would be better a 5000+ with a 3870 and a 3870x2 or a E7200 with 2 3870's
 
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OKay, why are you building a system for Crysis??
Are you planning to do anything else with it?
 
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I will be doing other things besides Crysis, gaming will be this rigs main purpose. I play games like Call of Duty 4, Call of Duty 2, Counter Strike Source, Team Fortress 2, Half Life 1 and 2, Oblivion, etc. The only other thing i will use it for is the internet.
 
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i would go with the AMD set-up.
 
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