• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

Building a budget comp for a friend of mine

Joined
Oct 13, 2007
Messages
233 (0.06/day)
Likes
18
Location
Australia, SA
System Name Computer MkVIII
Processor 2500K @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth P67
Cooling CPU: 212+ EVO GPU: Stock
Memory 16gb G.Skill Ares @2133mhz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 980 SC
Storage 1x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB
Display(s) 24" Asus VE248
Case Corsair Carbide 300R
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX-650
Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
#1
Hey everyone, good to finally be apart of the forums :)
I've been planning a budget computer for a friend of mine for some time now, and i was hoping to get some other peoples opinions on it, oh and i know its AMD, Intel just aint cheap enough for this build, but anyway, onto the build:

CPU: AMD X2 4000+ LV
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-M52S-S3P
GPU: Sapphire X1950Pro
RAM: 1Gb Stick Corsair Value Select 667mhz
Case: A cheap one that comes with a 400w PSU

Comes to around roughly $600 Australian dollars (oh and my friend already has 2 hard-drives to use with this new computer)

Any advice on this build would be much appreciated, anyway, thanks in advance :D
 

quickie

New Member
Joined
Jul 16, 2007
Messages
238 (0.06/day)
Likes
26
Processor Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 @3.0Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte P35-DS3L rev2.0
Cooling Xigamtek S1283, 2x Antec TriCool 120mm Case fans
Memory 2x2GB OCZ, DDR2-800
Video Card(s) ASUS Radeon 3450 256mb
Storage WD 640GB AAKS; WD 500GB AAKS
Display(s) Dell 23" SP2309W
Case Sonata II
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2ZS
Power Supply OCZ GameXStream 700W modded with Scythe SFF21e
#2
welcome to the boards! :)

what is your friend planning to use this computer for? gaming, office apps/internet, a bit of everything?

I'd recommend more RAM (2x1GB) if that is still within budget.
The motherboard is ok. Nothing wrong with it though. But, personally, I'd go for a motherboard with a 690G chipset.

What kind of case/psu is this? The last thing you want is an el cheapo psu dying taking out half the components.

The X1950 is not a DX10 part, so depending on what games your friend plays (or is planning to play), it may or may not matter.
 
Joined
Oct 13, 2007
Messages
233 (0.06/day)
Likes
18
Location
Australia, SA
System Name Computer MkVIII
Processor 2500K @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth P67
Cooling CPU: 212+ EVO GPU: Stock
Memory 16gb G.Skill Ares @2133mhz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 980 SC
Storage 1x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB
Display(s) 24" Asus VE248
Case Corsair Carbide 300R
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX-650
Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
#3
Thanks for the quick reply, i should of included that stuff in the first post :laugh:
Well, he wishes to play games like Team Fortress 2 and Unreal Tournament 3 (im only worried about the cpu not being able to handle these) so its basically a pure gaming machine

Case & PSU
http://www.auspcmarket.com.au/show_...oduct_code]=AL-CX-7859&input[category_id]=221

Another friend of mine has had this case and PSU combo for a long time (nearing a year) not a single problem yet, and powers all the components just fine (little less powerful than this build)
 

quickie

New Member
Joined
Jul 16, 2007
Messages
238 (0.06/day)
Likes
26
Processor Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 @3.0Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte P35-DS3L rev2.0
Cooling Xigamtek S1283, 2x Antec TriCool 120mm Case fans
Memory 2x2GB OCZ, DDR2-800
Video Card(s) ASUS Radeon 3450 256mb
Storage WD 640GB AAKS; WD 500GB AAKS
Display(s) Dell 23" SP2309W
Case Sonata II
Audio Device(s) Audigy 2ZS
Power Supply OCZ GameXStream 700W modded with Scythe SFF21e
#4
UT3 is DX10. Although you can run it in DX9c mode (not sure of the quality though).

I'm sure your friend will want to run UT3 in all its glory. Unfortunately, if you want DX10, you'll have to get Vista. Which makes having 2GB of RAM even more important.

You'll need a DX10-class graphics card. Sadly, the X1950 (although it has a lot of raw processing power) is only DX9.
 
Joined
Oct 1, 2007
Messages
497 (0.13/day)
Likes
22
Location
Australia
Processor AMD Athlon X2 3800+ Toledo (2.0ghz for now) (Looking for Opty)
Motherboard DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D
Cooling Zalman CNPS9700 NT + 6 120mm Zalman ZM-F3GL case fans through Zalman ZM-MFC1
Memory 2GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 + 2 GB for spare (Or Vista)!
Video Card(s) PNY 8800GTS 320MB
Storage 2x Western Digital 320GB 16MB Cache SATAII Raid 0
Display(s) 17" Philips 107S6E CRT (226BW early `08)
Case CoolerMaster Centurion 534 with upcoming modifications
Audio Device(s) SoundBlaster Audigy
Power Supply Thermaltake TR2 550W (Soon to be ToughPower 750W)
Software Windows XP SP2
#5
You can get two gigs of generic DDR2 for the price of that Corsair. The CoolerMaster TO5 or 534 are good sized and solid cases, should be able to find either with the dual 12V rail 430W PSU and 2x120mm fans as standard for between $80-120. You would be able to fit everything in that case for later upgrades and as I said, very solid. I'd not get a generic case, they will make your computer run too hot.
Save on your build by buying a cheap 8*** nVidia or 2*** ATi card. Is that website the only dealer you can by from down there?
 
Joined
Oct 13, 2007
Messages
233 (0.06/day)
Likes
18
Location
Australia, SA
System Name Computer MkVIII
Processor 2500K @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth P67
Cooling CPU: 212+ EVO GPU: Stock
Memory 16gb G.Skill Ares @2133mhz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 980 SC
Storage 1x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB
Display(s) 24" Asus VE248
Case Corsair Carbide 300R
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX-650
Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
#6
Ah, well i reckon he will be happy enough with DX9 quality, as i currently only use Windows XP, so ive been playing the demo in that mode, it looks amazing, made my jaw drop when i saw some of the scenery. I'll take your advice on the 2gb of ram though :)

Thanks for the advice quickie :D
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 13, 2007
Messages
233 (0.06/day)
Likes
18
Location
Australia, SA
System Name Computer MkVIII
Processor 2500K @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth P67
Cooling CPU: 212+ EVO GPU: Stock
Memory 16gb G.Skill Ares @2133mhz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 980 SC
Storage 1x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB
Display(s) 24" Asus VE248
Case Corsair Carbide 300R
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX-650
Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
#7
Hey thats a nice case, i never found that on Auspcmarket before... i need to look harder, excellent idea, im sure my friend could spare a bit extra for something that much better. Oh and sadly yes, this is the only store i'll be buying the parts from, as i get a 2% discount on everything, and free postage :D, so in the end it isnt much dearer than other stores

On the subject of graphics cards, the 1950Pro seems to be the best bang for buck atm (going by the recent benchmarks a reviews ive seen for UT3 and TF2), but i'll definitely re-consider the 2600/8600 series as they dont fall too far behind the 1950Pro

Much thanks for the advice Woah Mama! :)
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 12, 2007
Messages
2,276 (0.57/day)
Likes
230
Location
Cairns QLD, Aussie
System Name GaMEr / HTPC
Processor FX8320 4.5ghz so far NB- 2815mhz / X2 255 @ 3.2ghz (Temp till BD)
Motherboard 990FX-UD5 / GA-MA785GPMT-US2H
Cooling XSPC - 240rad 480rad 5 x 120mm out, 6 x 80mm in / H220-edge 1/2" & 2 x 120mm Magma
Memory 4gb PI 6,8,6,18 1T 1706mhz / 4gb Crucial D9's 1400 @ 6,6,6,18,1T
Video Card(s) 3gb HD7950 / Onboard
Storage 2 x 120gb Sandisk ultra plus 2tb WD / 60gb vertex 2 + 2 x 2tb WD Greens
Display(s) 3x24in Dell Ultra (portrait) / NEC 32" FullHD LCD
Case LL PC71A Full tower / Antec fusion black with Imon remote Modded for WC
Audio Device(s) OB / Auzentech cinema 7.1
Power Supply TT 700w TR2 / TT 600w Litepower modded with Noctua S12 fan.
Software 7 Ult / 7 premium x64
#8
Hey man

Here is a quick system I put together for you. I have used itestate before and they are pretty good. The frieght is a little slow because they use fastway couriers... But they are pretty good.....

This system comes to $635 and is pretty kick ass...

Its DX10.... Its got 2gb geil ram..... Nice little coolermaster case.... Core 2... And a P35 mb....

 
Joined
Oct 13, 2007
Messages
233 (0.06/day)
Likes
18
Location
Australia, SA
System Name Computer MkVIII
Processor 2500K @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth P67
Cooling CPU: 212+ EVO GPU: Stock
Memory 16gb G.Skill Ares @2133mhz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 980 SC
Storage 1x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB
Display(s) 24" Asus VE248
Case Corsair Carbide 300R
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX-650
Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
#9
Well thats pretty nice, but its actually more like $697 (with GST), and thats doesnt include postage... and theres a case in the order, and by experience that adds $10-$20 to the cost. Still, the price is damn good for those parts, wouldnt be able to find that price at Auspcmarket
 
Last edited:

J-Man

New Member
Joined
May 14, 2007
Messages
2,248 (0.58/day)
Likes
80
Location
Oakham, UK
System Name Watercooled beast
Processor Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.02GHz
Motherboard ASUS Rampage Formula X48
Cooling Swiftech Apogee GTZ, Black Ice GTX Xtreme 480, EK 250 Rev 2, EK 4870 X2, MCP655, 1/2" Tygon Tubing
Memory 4GB DDR2 OCZ @ 1066MHz 2.1V
Video Card(s) HIS ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 800 on core, 1000 on memory (overclocked in CCC)
Storage 500GB Maxtor Diamondmax 22 SATA II 32MB Cache
Display(s) Samsung 24" SM245B
Case SilverStone TJ07 black/windowed version
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatal1ty + Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W Modular
Software Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit Retail
#10
400 Watts PSU won't be enough. Get the Corsair HX 520W
 
Joined
Oct 1, 2007
Messages
497 (0.13/day)
Likes
22
Location
Australia
Processor AMD Athlon X2 3800+ Toledo (2.0ghz for now) (Looking for Opty)
Motherboard DFI LanParty UT NF4 Ultra-D
Cooling Zalman CNPS9700 NT + 6 120mm Zalman ZM-F3GL case fans through Zalman ZM-MFC1
Memory 2GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 + 2 GB for spare (Or Vista)!
Video Card(s) PNY 8800GTS 320MB
Storage 2x Western Digital 320GB 16MB Cache SATAII Raid 0
Display(s) 17" Philips 107S6E CRT (226BW early `08)
Case CoolerMaster Centurion 534 with upcoming modifications
Audio Device(s) SoundBlaster Audigy
Power Supply Thermaltake TR2 550W (Soon to be ToughPower 750W)
Software Windows XP SP2
#11
The power supply will be ok for now, it'll just create a lot of heat and be straining under a decent game until your mate gets a better one. The best thing with the CoolerMaster cases that come with PSUs is that their PSU is good enough quality to use for some gaming but its not so hot and power hungry as a generic. IT also doesn't have the tendency to short out at any given time and take some of your computer with it.
I'm also not one to fuss about DX10 just yet but it will play a big part in games next year. I recommend the cheap 8*** and 2*** cards just because they are exactly that, cheap. You can save some money to get something else improved in your computer like a better board or CPU so that its a more long lasting component. You can always pull out your $90 vid card later on when you buy a good unit later.


Budget PCs never stay cheap forever. My original under $650 computer ended up costing me about $1900 in the long run.
 
Joined
Jan 12, 2007
Messages
2,276 (0.57/day)
Likes
230
Location
Cairns QLD, Aussie
System Name GaMEr / HTPC
Processor FX8320 4.5ghz so far NB- 2815mhz / X2 255 @ 3.2ghz (Temp till BD)
Motherboard 990FX-UD5 / GA-MA785GPMT-US2H
Cooling XSPC - 240rad 480rad 5 x 120mm out, 6 x 80mm in / H220-edge 1/2" & 2 x 120mm Magma
Memory 4gb PI 6,8,6,18 1T 1706mhz / 4gb Crucial D9's 1400 @ 6,6,6,18,1T
Video Card(s) 3gb HD7950 / Onboard
Storage 2 x 120gb Sandisk ultra plus 2tb WD / 60gb vertex 2 + 2 x 2tb WD Greens
Display(s) 3x24in Dell Ultra (portrait) / NEC 32" FullHD LCD
Case LL PC71A Full tower / Antec fusion black with Imon remote Modded for WC
Audio Device(s) OB / Auzentech cinema 7.1
Power Supply TT 700w TR2 / TT 600w Litepower modded with Noctua S12 fan.
Software 7 Ult / 7 premium x64
#12
Well thats pretty nice, but its actually more like $697 (with GST), and thats doesnt include postage... and theres a case in the order, and by experience that adds $10-$20 to the cost. Still, the price is damn good for those parts, wouldnt be able to find that price at Auspcmarket
oooops

My bad mate, didn't even see that, so yeah, $700. You could go with cheaper ram and save yourself $40.

I reckon that psu would be fine with that setup. Its 460watts and coolermaster brand. Which is better than generic.

But Even so, that system would be shitloads better than the old amd you were lookin at getting. And Itestate isn't necessarily the cheapest place either mate. Have you tried using shopbot.com, or pricespy.com... they can be pretty useful too.

I agree with the frieght as well, if you buy a case locally you can save some cash there too. From memory the last time I ordered a case from them it was $30 postage to cairns in QLD.

Good luck with it though..
 
Joined
Jan 12, 2007
Messages
2,276 (0.57/day)
Likes
230
Location
Cairns QLD, Aussie
System Name GaMEr / HTPC
Processor FX8320 4.5ghz so far NB- 2815mhz / X2 255 @ 3.2ghz (Temp till BD)
Motherboard 990FX-UD5 / GA-MA785GPMT-US2H
Cooling XSPC - 240rad 480rad 5 x 120mm out, 6 x 80mm in / H220-edge 1/2" & 2 x 120mm Magma
Memory 4gb PI 6,8,6,18 1T 1706mhz / 4gb Crucial D9's 1400 @ 6,6,6,18,1T
Video Card(s) 3gb HD7950 / Onboard
Storage 2 x 120gb Sandisk ultra plus 2tb WD / 60gb vertex 2 + 2 x 2tb WD Greens
Display(s) 3x24in Dell Ultra (portrait) / NEC 32" FullHD LCD
Case LL PC71A Full tower / Antec fusion black with Imon remote Modded for WC
Audio Device(s) OB / Auzentech cinema 7.1
Power Supply TT 700w TR2 / TT 600w Litepower modded with Noctua S12 fan.
Software 7 Ult / 7 premium x64
#13
400 Watts PSU won't be enough. Get the Corsair HX 520W
its 460watt bro. It should be fine for that system... :)

It may strain a little over time if he oc's like mad or has a lot of extras plugged in.
 

hat

Enthusiast
Joined
Nov 20, 2006
Messages
18,527 (4.58/day)
Likes
3,160
Location
Ohio
System Name Starlifter :: Dragonfly
Processor i5 2400 :: Athlon II x4 630
Motherboard MSI H67-G43-B3 :: GIgabyte GA-770T-USB3
Cooling Corsair H70 :: Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory 4x2GB DDR3 1333 :: 2x1GB DDR3 1333
Video Card(s) 2x PNY GTX1070 :: GT720
Storage Plextor M5s 128GB, WDC Black 500GB :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, WD RE3 1TB
Display(s) Acer P216HL HDMI :: None
Case Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower
Audio Device(s) X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro - iLive IT153B Soundbar (optical) :: None
Power Supply Corsair CX600w :: Unknown
Software Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly
Benchmark Scores >9000
#14
2600xt... 8600gts... Dx10...
 
Joined
Jul 31, 2007
Messages
1,002 (0.26/day)
Likes
34
Processor i5-2500K @ 3.2Ghz
Motherboard ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB
Video Card(s) Radeon HD 7850 2GB
Storage 250GB Samsung EVO; 1TB WD Black
Display(s) 22" ASUS
Power Supply Rosewill Hive-650
Software Windows 8 64-bit
#15
My build costed 600 USD and it ran the UT3 great that doesnt include the operating system cost tho. I dont know how much the currency there differs from usd
 
Joined
Jan 12, 2007
Messages
2,276 (0.57/day)
Likes
230
Location
Cairns QLD, Aussie
System Name GaMEr / HTPC
Processor FX8320 4.5ghz so far NB- 2815mhz / X2 255 @ 3.2ghz (Temp till BD)
Motherboard 990FX-UD5 / GA-MA785GPMT-US2H
Cooling XSPC - 240rad 480rad 5 x 120mm out, 6 x 80mm in / H220-edge 1/2" & 2 x 120mm Magma
Memory 4gb PI 6,8,6,18 1T 1706mhz / 4gb Crucial D9's 1400 @ 6,6,6,18,1T
Video Card(s) 3gb HD7950 / Onboard
Storage 2 x 120gb Sandisk ultra plus 2tb WD / 60gb vertex 2 + 2 x 2tb WD Greens
Display(s) 3x24in Dell Ultra (portrait) / NEC 32" FullHD LCD
Case LL PC71A Full tower / Antec fusion black with Imon remote Modded for WC
Audio Device(s) OB / Auzentech cinema 7.1
Power Supply TT 700w TR2 / TT 600w Litepower modded with Noctua S12 fan.
Software 7 Ult / 7 premium x64
#16
My build costed 600 USD and it ran the UT3 great that doesnt include the operating system cost tho. I dont know how much the currency there differs from usd

There is a huge difference man between US and Aussie. No so much the conversion rate but the general price of pc parts over here... They are coming down which is good but are still much more than US.
 
Joined
Oct 13, 2007
Messages
233 (0.06/day)
Likes
18
Location
Australia, SA
System Name Computer MkVIII
Processor 2500K @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard ASUS Sabertooth P67
Cooling CPU: 212+ EVO GPU: Stock
Memory 16gb G.Skill Ares @2133mhz
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 980 SC
Storage 1x Samsung 840 EVO 1TB
Display(s) 24" Asus VE248
Case Corsair Carbide 300R
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX-650
Software Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
#17
Thanks for all your opinions mates, my friends a bit of an AMD man so im going to go with a 4400+, as itestate have those for $99, an amazing price, so, here is the build he likes atm



An 8600GT can play UT3 great eh Snipe343? Awesome, that and the Orange Box is pretty much all my mate wants to play (but as the 8600GTS at itestate is cheap, i'll go for that hehe)
 
Last edited: