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planning my first amd rig. i am not familiar with amd please need advice. my friend suggested a dfi board, but is not 100% sure please give advice
 
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Depends what type processor you want, an X2 or Phenom. If you want a X2, I would go with a 5000+ BE. I have one, and they are great OC'ers.
 
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if you want a cheap sli amd rig..

MSI k9n sli

2 X 8600GT(if you don't have a card alrdy)

5000+ AMD Black EDITION

2 gigs is enough


vista/xp (alot of people prefer XP[better preformance] but vista can do the same if you fix preferences)

zalman cooler(overclocking the 5000+)

cheap case..


If you aren't a hardcore gamer... just casual

pick up a 790G chipset mobo.. and a phenom.
 
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Hey sal< i glad to see you took my advice and came over. Welcome to TPU!

I suggested a X2 6400+ which runs at 3.2GHz naively.

Squirll, as for the BE i heard you can't hit over 3GHz?
 

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Hey sal< i glad to see you took my advice and came over. Welcome to TPU!

I suggested a X2 6400+ which runs at 3.2GHz naively.

Squirll, as for the BE i heard you can't hit over 3GHz?
I call BS on that i run 3.2ish on mine benching and 3ghz@stock voltage 24/7
 
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Good motherboards are a dime a dozen, are you going ATi or nVidia? also are you going to run multi-gpu, or just single?

Edit: Also, what's your budget?
 

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Squirll, as for the BE i heard you can't hit over 3GHz?
I can hit over 3ghz. I got 3.2 a while ago, but just didn't keep it there (1.475v I think), as there was no need too. I think cdawall can hit ~3.475 ghz, but thats with a good bit of volts. :laugh:

Overall, I think the 5000 BE is good. Its 65nm as well, so that's a +1.
 

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3ghz 1.32v (stock for my CPU) 3.2ghz 1.52-1.55v (depends on temps)
whats the farthest you have gotten the BE stable? Would you suggest water cooling for it as well?
 

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im going single im eithier goona choose SAPPHIRE 100227L Radeon HD 3850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card or EVGA 512-P3-N807-AR GeForce 8800GT AKIMBO 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
 

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whats the farthest you have gotten the BE stable? Would you suggest water cooling for it as well?
highest stable i have got would be 3.2ghz @1.52v on a cool day.temp with my HSF was 42c full load. I would recommend water if you wanted to run high voltage (1.5+) 24/7 just for the life of the CPU but a good air cooler would be just fine if your not running as high voltage. Keep in mind alot of the BE get the same clocks with lower V-core. I think i just didn't get a good binned chip and also my mobo is showing its age and isn't overclocking as good anymore.
 
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Go with the 8800GT, it will give you better performance than a 3850.
If you're not going with a phenom I wouldn't bother with a nForce700 chip, you'll be fine with either a 500 or 600 chip. You should be able to find a good asus or giga board for under $100

What's your full budget?
 

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Go with the 8800GT, it will give you better performance than a 3850.
If you're not going with a phenom I wouldn't bother with a nForce700 chip, you'll be fine with either a 500 or 600 chip. You should be able to find a good asus or giga board for under $100

What's your full budget?
+1 on the 8800GT -1 on the 500 or 600
I would still get something that 100% supports Phenom so if one day he does want one then he wouldn't have to get a new board to get the full performance and overclocking out of one
 
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+1 on the 8800GT -1 on the 500 or 600
I would still get something that 100% supports Phenom so if one day he does want one then he wouldn't have to get a new board to get the full performance and overclocking out of one
True, I guess as a biproduct of my extreme-poorness I automatically look for the cheapest thing availabe for relative performance.
 
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What's your full budget?
Hes tight on money, i suggested AMD because its cheaper right now overall compared to intel. And this rig is for his mom's house, his primary computer is at his dad's.
 

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Any numbers? Any parts being salvaged?
not really, when he built his first rig we stole most of the good components, Hes basically starting at scratch.
 

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