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lol how does no one know what AMD is, the people that don't know what AMD is are the same people that don't know what Intel is. and microsoft does have a monopoly seeing as their OS can cost a few hundred dollars haha, apple OS only costs like 30 bucks haha
 

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lol how does no one know what AMD is, the people that don't know what AMD is are the same people that don't know what Intel is. and microsoft does have a monopoly seeing as their OS can cost a few hundred dollars haha, apple OS only costs like 30 bucks haha
WOW . Have you even been in a retail store ? Have you seen how the people look at computers ? Most see HP that is it . I tell you what go up to any one of them giblet heads and ask them what an AMD setup is . You will see what I mean .
 
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nobody is going to be looking at HP anymore lol.... and my point is they look at the computer brand, not the CPU brand powering the thing, if you ask anyone what part of the computer intel is responsible for they will stare at you blankly because its just a name, as much as AMD is a name. yes Intel sells a lot more PC's in places like bestbuy and all that crap but it doesn't mean people know what it is or what it does. people who have any idea of what a processor is also are aware of a company known as AMD
 

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I don't see the point of this thread any more . 26 pages and only about 5% has any news and that is even sketchy at best . I hope they get this CPU out soon . It is giving me a head ache .
 
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lol how does no one know what AMD is, the people that don't know what AMD is are the same people that don't know what Intel is. and microsoft does have a monopoly seeing as their OS can cost a few hundred dollars haha, apple OS only costs like 30 bucks haha
Windows cost more because it has better compatibility, is a one time charge, and can be carried over to new hardware configurations. Apple charges you for every update of OS X, and gouges on hardware costs, while deciding exactly what hardware you can and can't install their OS on. Going from a 2.3GHz CPU 1 model up to a 2.66GHz can cost upwards of several hundred dollars when it comes to Apple Products. But I don't see AMD\Bulldozer CPU's being offered in Apple machines any time soon, so I have no idea how that couple possibly be on topic.
 
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well linux is free and runs on everything lmao
 
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well linux is free and runs on everything lmao
And runs how many well-known and used programs flawlessly without Emulation, VM-style software, a dozen software fixes, or with a million problems? Exactly. Linux is cute for fiddling around with and for developing in super-niche scenarios, but to imply it EVER has a chance of wide-spread adoption is silly.

I would have to say that 98% of all computers run some form of windows . They have a monopoly , They even went to court over this and were found to have said monopoly ! And I still do not see Microsoft charging such a high price that they have forced out the people that put bread on there table . one reason why I do not buy into all this crap about Intel will raise the prices . HELL they can set whatever price they want NOW as NO ONE EVEN KNOWS WHAT AMD IS ! OK now I am done . . . . Maybe . . . . . . :eek:
The Anti-Trust suit you are referring too actually involved including Office and Internet Explorer in the operating system by default, which basically shut any company who developed like software out of the market. Also, do you know how Microsoft got to where it is now? They made a BETTER product than their competitors.

EDIT: But once against, none of this has ANYTHING to do with Bulldozer.
 
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Also, do you know how Microsoft got to where it is now? They made a BETTER product than their competitors.
agreed, and no it doesn't have much to do with BD, BUTTTTT it should totally be releasing today ?!?!?! :)
 
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But, Fermi already has all of that stuff....AMD is just finally adding it to their GPUs

GPUs will never take place of the Floating Point Coprocessor

CUDA 4.0/4.1 drivers add everything you just said to Fermi
Does Fermi support x86 virtual memory? How about IOMMU for GPU? 64b x86 pointers for GPU that are the same for CPU? Unified virtual address space between CPU and GPU? A GPU that can handle page faults? Memory coherence between CPU and GPU?

I'd be surprised if Fermi supported some of that x86 stuff since only Intel, AMD, and VIA have licenses to support execution of x86 code without a on chip translator.

Also, I'd like to take your "GPUs will never take the place of the Floating Point Coprocessor" and make a quote out of it since AMD has already stated that this is the end game of Fusion.
 
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Does Fermi support x86 virtual memory? How about IOMMU for GPU? 64b x86 pointers for GPU that are the same for CPU? Unified virtual address space between CPU and GPU? A GPU that can handle page faults? Memory coherence between CPU and GPU?

I'd be surprised if Fermi supported some of that x86 stuff since only Intel, AMD, and VIA have licenses to support execution of x86 code without a on chip translator.

Also, I'd like to take your "GPUs will never take the place of the Floating Point Coprocessor" and make a quote out of it since AMD has already stated that this is the end game of Fusion.


Everything else has either been added or will be added

x86 execution won't happen on GPUs

Instant a GPU goes on die and does what a Floating Point unit does....It's not a GPU anymore it's a Floating Point Coprocessor
As said before GPUs will never take the place of Floating Point Coprocessors
 
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Well I still stand by my statement that the FPU will be replaced with the GPU being integrated just like the FP currently is.

That's already been stated by AMD.

They are not going to call it a FPU if it has a SMID array. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, then it's called a duck. If it executes like a GPU, runs like a GPU, and needs code like a GPU, then it's going to be called a GPU and not a FPU. It will be able to do what a FPU does but also be able to execute GPU code.

Just saying. As to whether it will be called a GPU or FPU (or something else) time will tell but AMD has already stated their plans which is why they are calling it an APU.
 
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Just saying. As to whether it will be called a GPU or FPU (or something else) time will tell but AMD has already stated their plans which is why they are calling it an APU.
APU is a CPU+GPU

It's not anyway destroying the Floating Point Coprocessor
 
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Unless AMD has stated such........which they have.
 
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Like I said. I can't find it right now.

Give me a couple days to see if I can come up with it.
 
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Like I said. I can't find it right now.

Give me a couple days to see if I can come up with it.
I'll give you a day because I don't want you pulling an AMD.

:roll:

I don't want to wait till Q5. :laugh:
 
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Like I said. I can't find it right now.

Give me a couple days to see if I can come up with it.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19514

Another explanation we've heard is that, with AMD's emphasis on CPU-GPU fusion, floating-point-intensive problems may be delegated to GPUs or arrays of GPU-like parallel processing engines in the future.


http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...to_Develop_Fusion_Processors_for_Servers.html

http://blogs.amd.com/work/2010/06/10/fusion-for-servers/

Fusion is not only for games (they are talking about servers so games are out of the question).

I saved you a few days of search :)
 
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they delayed the scheduled delay to a later date

Mid october delay......
 

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Does Fermi support x86 virtual memory? How about IOMMU for GPU? 64b x86 pointers for GPU that are the same for CPU? Unified virtual address space between CPU and GPU? A GPU that can handle page faults? Memory coherence between CPU and GPU?

I'd be surprised if Fermi supported some of that x86 stuff since only Intel, AMD, and VIA have licenses to support execution of x86 code without a on chip translator.

Also, I'd like to take your "GPUs will never take the place of the Floating Point Coprocessor" and make a quote out of it since AMD has already stated that this is the end game of Fusion.
GPUs are just Accelerated FPPs
 
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amd loves to fuck with people.
 
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OMG! A two week delay! How will we ever survive! AMD is dead apparently!............or their vendors haven't cleared out enough old stock yet.
 

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OMG! A two week delay! How will we ever survive! AMD is dead apparently!............or their vendors haven't cleared out enough old stock yet.
AMD is like my wife , Every time I am ready to leave and go out to shop , eat or just get a pack of smokes , You know what she tells me ? Take a guess !

Wait I am not ready and when she finally is ready she looks at me while in the "f" ing car and tells me HOLD ON I have to PEE ! Yeah AMD is just like my wife always delaying me and delaying me !
 
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just cuz i can POST # 420 and the bad thing is im in school lol.

Id rather have amd delay somthing like this for a month then have it come out and have problems.
 
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