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Why thank you and I'm glad you didn't take any of it personally.

Good say Billcat. Thank you

I was trying to see if anyone would get mad at me, I went pretty deep but I am just so tired of it all. We almost have are own supercomputers from intel and amd and with good programming and less bloat we would have some fantastic speed and which one doesn't matter that much. It's gotten to be like politics and everyone knows how bad that is. It really is an perception of illusions.
In a way I'll never be happy I got rid of my very old Atari 512 ST.
Those were game computers but they were computers and they worked super well. Had the GEM OS on a ROM chip where nothing got in the way of a good operating system and it did what a OS is supposed to do, make the darn thing work and run software.
I think it's blazing fast 4 or was it 6Mhz 8bit motorola cpu and 512k memory stood out as a lot of stuff that did not much except play games and program in basic. Both were fun. A lot of Asseb. coding went on with them too. Used to run time dilatation progs on them and very slow mandelbrot stuff. But I am still in love with astroids and packman and space raiders. That was a neat kind of simple game but fun is one thing those games were and could be played for hours on end sitting times. I wish I could find a setup with all the game cartdriges. and the huge 32k programs that I had on many disks. A 64k program was a real huge one for those days and computers.... What a world....
But hey, thanks bud, I 'm glad you got a good sence of humor and maybe got what I was going round in circles about... I didn't really have much more than a illusion spread out to read. But it did have a dark side that has a glimmer of truth in it.
And it looks like you got it.... Cool man... Have a good one...
 
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AMD Bulldozer sample vs Intel Core i7-990x in SLI test



This test has been carried on with B1 stepping of AMD Bulldozer and now B2 stepping has come. We have also reviewed the performance of B2 stepping of AMD Bulldozer which gives a better performance than B1 stepping AMD Bulldozer.

Link--> http://lenzfire.com/2011/07/bulldozer-sample-vs-core-i7-990x-in-sli-test/

If the article is legit , i wouldn't expect much more out of B2 revision when it be out in about 3-6 weeks from now...?
 
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Those informations are old and they come from the infamous OBR. On his blog he has lots of more "Bulldozer" benchmarks. Nobody seem to take them seriously.
 
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Then again it's from OBR who spreads nothing but lies.
 
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Don't care about the wait.

1. Nothing I run now that my 1090T doesn't devour.
2. Don't need a Bulldozer to run ports.
3. Couldn't afford one right now anyway.
 
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Speculation is nothing. Arguing whether a processor that hasn't been released nor reviewed will outperform rivals product is all Special Olympics type BS IMO.

I think Bulldozer will succeed regardless of whether it out performs Intels current line up. Everyone knows that AMD's chips have been much less expensive than Intel's in modern times. You have many different types of consumers out there. Some people need to have the very best, which roughly translates to "most expensive" pretty often. Others want what works and is more affordable. Both companies have dedicated communities that wouldn't dare buy anything from the rival.

I like Intel and I like AMD. I currently have two Intel machines and two AMD machines (3 have AMD video cards). I like them all. They all work well and I can play games on them all with great performance. I'm not a benchmarking guy or even much of an overclocker. 80% of the time I'm playing WoW, SC2 or some Source based FPS (I admit to CoD as well).

I anxious for Bulldozer to launch because I'm wanting to see if AMD is going to bring the heat. I'd hate to think that reviving the FX line name is just a marketing ploy to keep people from buying Intel, but the longer they wait the more I fear it is exactly that. To me, it's an exciting time for computers. Technology is moving forward at an unrelenting pace, the internet took over the world and how people interact with each other change seemingly on a daily basis.

Intel has their thing going on and AMD has their thing going on. I'm stoked to see what's coming down the line, but I won't read anything about alleged performance (or the lack thereof) until the product is on the street and legitimate reviews are posted on the internets.

Then I'll let Erocker build a PC with it, figure out an awesome overclock and buy his hardware when he upgrades again and be golden!
 
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Billy, the reason we need more CPU performance is the increase in video definition, increase in 3D render quality, increase in pixels rendered, increase in special effects and interactiveness.


That being said a radical change in the way programs are handled and the kernel of the OS handling things would increase performance on current hardware exponentially. Use OpenCL and dump stream and Cuda, and use it across multiple platforms, across multiple hardware, and support it at the hardware layer directly with the kernel.


Amazing things could happen.
 

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Billy, the reason we need more CPU performance is the increase in video definition, increase in 3D render quality, increase in pixels rendered, increase in special effects and interactiveness.


That being said a radical change in the way programs are handled and the kernel of the OS handling things would increase performance on current hardware exponentially. Use OpenCL and dump stream and Cuda, and use it across multiple platforms, across multiple hardware, and support it at the hardware layer directly with the kernel.


Amazing things could happen.

See the problem is not the support of Cuda or Stream in modern rendering software but the fact they don't utilize the turbo nabulator in most GPU's built in flux capacitors.
 
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See the problem is not the support of Cuda or Stream in modern rendering software but the fact they don't utilize the turbo nabulator in most GPU's built in flux capacitors.

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I think Bulldozer will succeed regardless of whether it out performs Intels current line up. Everyone knows that AMD's chips have been much less expensive than Intel's in modern times.

I mostly agree with your response, but this line was something I felt needed to be poked at. The pricing scheme for BD CPU's (that we've seen so far at least) puts the highest one in the exact same price point for the 2600k. That means if it doesn't perform as well as the 2600k, AMD doesn't even have that benefit anymore. Something tells me when it comes to BD, AMD won't be able to just keep dropping the price like they have to keep K10 on the market. They need to be at least on par for SB CPU's at the same price point.
 
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I mostly agree with your response, but this line was something I felt needed to be poked at. The pricing scheme for BD CPU's (that we've seen so far at least) puts the highest one in the exact same price point for the 2600k. That means if it doesn't perform as well as the 2600k, AMD doesn't even have that benefit anymore. Something tells me when it comes to BD, AMD won't be able to just keep dropping the price like they have to keep K10 on the market. They need to be at least on par for SB CPU's at the same price point.

Hmm. I haven't been following the pricing. If that's true then they should be releasing a contender, otherwise they'll pull an Apple and drop the price 2 months after release.

I actually haven't been following much when it comes to BD, I'm definitely interested but I don't like too much speculation.
 

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I would hope so since the Phenom II is over 2yrs old.
 

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good for you i guess you came in here to try to start something
 

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good for you i guess you came in here to try to start something

No One Moar is just that smart. We should all listen to him. How could we have been so stupid!
 

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good for you i guess you came in here to try to start something

That's basically what he does. Sniffs out AMD threads and does that.

I think the fact that phenom II is over 2 years old is irrelevant. AMD has no other offering at the moment so that's just the way it is. If AMD had BD out now, then this conversation wouldn't be taking place. The whole thread is filled with crazy nonsense. Let's all hope bulldozer is fantastic, because if it is we ALL win!
 

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No One Moar is just that smart. We should all listen to him. How could we have been so stupid!

That's basically what he does. Sniffs out AMD threads and does that.

I think the fact that phenom II is over 2 years old is irrelevant. AMD has no other offering at the moment so that's just the way it is. If AMD had BD out now, then this conversation wouldn't be taking place. The whole thread is filled with crazy nonsense. Let's all hope bulldozer is fantastic, because if it is we ALL win!

Tell you the truth the machine i just built my bro im pretty impressed with, its not the top end parts but it is a Dual Unlocked to a quad (BE 555 now B55/955) with a 6770 with 8 gigs ram at 8-8-8-24 timing n 1.5V. All i gotta do is some major cable management though

N He is one Less person I will help when he is needing help cause he dont know how to be mature.
 
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