Bulldozer specs and pricing

[twilyth]

This is from youtube and I don't know who this guy is, but for people who are interested and don't mind some FUD with their "news", here you go.

This is for the 8100, 8110, 8130 and 8150P - apparently all are B2 or C0 steppings.

Maybe someone else will have the patience to transcribe the relevant info, but IIRC the 8150P will have a base clock of 4ghz and self-oc to 4.4ghz.

 

[bucketface]

if true those are some massive stock clocks.

 

[Wyverex]

Copy/Pasted / transcribed info from the clip:


All four will be AM3+ socket CPUS
They will have 4x2 MB L2 cache and 8 MB L3 cache and their HyperTransport bus will be at 3200 MHz

FX-8150P(C0) - 4.0Ghz, Max T.C 4.4Ghz, 125W (Unknown)
FX-8130P(B2) - 3.8Ghz, Max T.C 4.2Ghz, 125W (320$)
FX-8110(B2) - 3.6Ghz, Max T.C 4.0Ghz, 95W (290$)
FX-8100(C0) - 3.5Ghz, Max T.C 3.9Ghz, 125W (Unknown)

PS he says 95W for 8100 in clip, but in description, it says 125W

 

[Fatal]

Those are some kick butt stock clocks I wonder if they will have any headroom.

 

[Over_Lord]

Copy/Pasted / transcribed info from the clip:


All four will be AM3+ socket CPUS
They will have 4x2 MB L2 cache and 8 MB L3 cache and their HyperTransport bus will be at 3200 MHz

FX-8150P(C0) - 4.0Ghz, Max T.C 4.4Ghz, 125W (Unknown)
FX-8130P(B2) - 3.8Ghz, Max T.C 4.2Ghz, 125W (320$)
FX-8110(B2) - 3.6Ghz, Max T.C 4.0Ghz, 95W (290$)
FX-8100(C0) - 3.5Ghz, Max T.C 3.9Ghz, 125W (Unknown)

PS he says 95W for 8100 in clip, but in description, it says 125W

I think this is correct, in sync with what AMD was mentioning. New stepping, C0 taking the highest clock.

I believe the 3.6Ghz is indeed 95W, as I have seen it mentioned in other err leaked slides.

FOr me, the 3.6Ghz 95W and 4GHz 125W CPUs are the only ones out there, the pests in between are unwanted

 

[MilkyWay]

I wonder if there is any difference in overclocking between B2 and C0 steppings.
If there is you could get a FX-8100(C0) and oc it instead of getting a FX-8110(B2). Or vice versa if its the other way around.

Depends on price but the 8100 probably will be a lower price than the 8110.

 

[Zyon]

Wow, that is some aggressive clock speeds by AMD to take on Sandy Bridge, let's hope the flagship 4ghz chip will prove its performance and doesn't cost a mortgage like the 990X

 

[xenocide]

Something about a CPU line that starts at high clock speeds confuses me...

 

[Anusha]

Something about a CPU line that starts at high clock speeds confuses me...

Then Sandybridge must have confused you as well?

 

[twilyth]

Then Sandybridge must have confused you as well?

I think it's more the same kind of surprise you have were you to see a black guy playing hockey or a white guy who can dance (and issn't gay).

Wow, I offended 3 groups in one sentence. Not a personal best, but not bad.

 

[xenocide]

Then Sandybridge must have confused you as well?

Point me in the direction of the 4GHz+ SandyBridge CPU's...

 

[Anusha]

Point me in the direction of the 4GHz+ SandyBridge CPU's...

3.4~3.8GHz in January is like 4~4.4 in September. XD
besides it is only one model. it is not my fault that Intel didn't make a 2700K, 2800K etc. people would have still gotten them, if they priced those two models at $500 and $700 range.

 

[Crap Daddy]

No point in 2700K and others alike. Whay we have now is mid and upper mid level Sandy Bridge. Intel will launch SB-E for LGA2011. That's where top performance will be. At a price...

 

[Anusha]

No point in 2700K and others alike. Whay we have now is mid and upper mid level Sandy Bridge. Intel will launch SB-E for LGA2011. That's where top performance will be. At a price...

hehe. bulldozer thread becomes a sandybridge thread all of a sudden. XD

few things to consider would be, will SB-E be as overclockable as the SB? maybe the 4 core model would be, but i doubt the 6 core models will reach ~4.8GHz without some serious volts. but why pay a lot of money for the 4 core SB-E when you can get pretty much the same performance with 2600k. i don't think 4-channel memory would boost performance much. the real perks i see with the SB-E platform are for the multiGPU gamers. x16 PC-E 3.0 three way SLI with keplar based chips (which i will never buy, no thanks)

that said, i wonder how far BD chips will overclock to. if the 3.5GHz model clocks to same max OC speed as a top end model (say 5GHz, if that is realistic), it would bring back the real perks of overclocking (i.e. poor kid gets to match performance of the rich kid's CPU with *some* effort)

man, these Handbrake High Profile HD encodes are running at 15fps with my i5. if BD can double that, that's all i need right now. 2600k, even with a 4.8GHzish OC would only do 50% better than mine.

p.s.
both BD (i mean, Zambezi) and SB-E won't have onboard GPU, right? that would suck! not for gaming or anything, i would like to see GPU accelerated encoding.

 

[de.das.dude]

Look out for flyin intels, AMDs gonna be kickin their arses pretty hard!

 

[NdMk2o1o]

hehe. bulldozer thread becomes a sandybridge thread all of a sudden. XD

few things to consider would be, will SB-E be as overclockable as the SB? maybe the 4 core model would be, but i doubt the 6 core models will reach ~4.8GHz without some serious volts. but why pay a lot of money for the 4 core SB-E when you can get pretty much the same performance with 2600k. i don't think 4-channel memory would boost performance much. the real perks i see with the SB-E platform are for the multiGPU gamers. x16 PC-E 3.0 three way SLI with keplar based chips (which i will never buy, no thanks)

that said, i wonder how far BD chips will overclock to. if the 3.5GHz model clocks to same max OC speed as a top end model (say 5GHz, if that is realistic), it would bring back the real perks of overclocking (i.e. poor kid gets to match performance of the rich kid's CPU with *some* effort)

man, these Handbrake High Profile HD encodes are running at 15fps with my i5. if BD can double that, that's all i need right now. 2600k, even with a 4.8GHzish OC would only do 50% better than mine.

p.s.
both BD (i mean, Zambezi) and SB-E won't have onboard GPU, right? that would suck! not for gaming or anything, i would like to see GPU accelerated encoding.

PM me what settings your using for HB, I average 90fps when i encode from a h264 720/1080p 4gb file to 1800-2000mb MP4 keeping the same resolution.

 

[inferKNOX]

All these numbers flying around Zambezi are very interesting... 4GHz... 19°C... 125W TDP... 8 cores... 1866MHz DDR3... ~$300...
NOW BRING ON THE ACTUAL PRODUCT!

 

[Anusha]

All these numbers flying around Zambezi are very interesting... 4GHz... 19°C... 125W TDP... 8 cores... 1866MHz DDR3... ~$300...
NOW BRING ON THE ACTUAL PRODUCT!

or simply tell us if it would be better when overclocked than an overclocked 2600k.

 

[seronx]

FX-8150P(B3) - 4.0Ghz, T.C 4.5Ghz, 125W ($320)
FX-8130P(B2) - 3.8Ghz, T.C 4.2Ghz, 125W ($320)
FX-8110(B2) - 3.6Ghz, T.C 4.0Ghz, 95W ($290)
FX-8100(B3) - 3.5Ghz, T.C 4.0Ghz, 95W ($290)

Fixed

Komodo
Next year:
FX-8250P(C3) - 5.0Ghz, T.C 5.5Ghz, 125W ($320)
FX-8230P(C2) - 4.8Ghz, T.C 5.2Ghz, 125W ($320)
FX-8210(C2) - 4.6Ghz, T.C 5.0Ghz, 95W ($290)
FX-8200(C3) - 4.5Ghz, T.C 5.0Ghz, 95W ($290)

This how steppings work people

Phenom I was B2->B3
Phenom II was C2->C3

Special versions get the E0 model which signifies absolute max die space compactness

AMD always releases to B2 for each new architecture

B0 Q4, B1 Q1, B2 Q2, B3 Q3 -> C0 Q4, C1 Q1, C2 Q2, C3 Q3 -> E0 Q4

Year 0 > Year 1 > Year 2 ---> New Architecture

 

[NdMk2o1o]

FX-8150P(B3) - 4.0Ghz, T.C 4.5Ghz, 125W ($320)
FX-8130P(B2) - 3.8Ghz, T.C 4.2Ghz, 125W ($320)
FX-8110(B2) - 3.6Ghz, T.C 4.0Ghz, 95W ($290)
FX-8100(B3) - 3.5Ghz, T.C 4.0Ghz, 95W ($290)

Fixed

Komodo
Next year:
FX-8250P(C3) - 5.0Ghz, T.C 5.5Ghz, 125W ($320)
FX-8230P(C2) - 4.8Ghz, T.C 5.2Ghz, 125W ($320)
FX-8210(C2) - 4.6Ghz, T.C 5.0Ghz, 95W ($290)
FX-8200(C3) - 4.5Ghz, T.C 5.0Ghz, 95W ($290)

This how steppings work people

Phenom I was B2->B3
Phenom II was C2->C3

Special versions get the E0 model which signifies absolute max die space compactness

AMD always releases to B2 for each new architecture

B0 Q4, B1 Q1, B2 Q2, B3 Q3 -> C0 Q4, C1 Q1, C2 Q2, C3 Q3 -> E0 Q4

Year 0 > Year 1 > Year 2 ---> New Architecture

5ghz stock non turbo, is this just an example of what you are explaining about stepping or..........

 

[JATownes]

5ghz stock non turbo, is this just an example of what you are explaining about stepping or..........

I was thinking the same thing. 5Ghz stock frequency seems pretty optomistic to me.

 

[seronx]

5ghz stock non turbo, is this just an example of what you are explaining about stepping or..........

I was thinking the same thing. 5Ghz stock frequency seems pretty optomistic to me.

My answer on this it is possible GloFo technically by the end of this year should be developing a new(Not just HKMG, 3D Tranny equivalent) Fab process for 20/22nm for us to convert into

I made a oob boo boo

Corrected:

B0 Q4, B1 Q1, B2 Q2, B3 Q3 -> C0 Q4, C1 Q1, C2 Q2, C3 Q3 -> E0 Q4

Phenom K10
Year 0(New Architecture), Year 2(Die Shrink+Optimizations), Year 4(Die Compression) ---> Year 5 New Architecture

Is the correct 3 ticks then a tock

But the AMD Bulldozer path seem more like this

Year 0 (New Architecture) -> Year 1(Die Compression) -> Year 2(Die Shrink+Optimizations) -> Year 3(Die Compression) -> Year 4(Die Shrink+Optimizations) -> Year 5 (Die Compression) -> then finally NG Bulldozer

or it could be an accelerated version

Year 0 (NA) -> Year 1(DS+O) -> Year (DC) -> NG Bulldozer

 

[Thatguy]

I think it's more the same kind of surprise you have were you to see a black guy playing hockey or a white guy who can dance (and issn't gay).

Wow, I offended 3 groups in one sentence. Not a personal best, but not bad.

Next time try for 4. Pretty good though.

 

[Thatguy]

hehe. bulldozer thread becomes a sandybridge thread all of a sudden. XD

few things to consider would be, will SB-E be as overclockable as the SB? maybe the 4 core model would be, but i doubt the 6 core models will reach ~4.8GHz without some serious volts. but why pay a lot of money for the 4 core SB-E when you can get pretty much the same performance with 2600k. i don't think 4-channel memory would boost performance much. the real perks i see with the SB-E platform are for the multiGPU gamers. x16 PC-E 3.0 three way SLI with keplar based chips (which i will never buy, no thanks)

that said, i wonder how far BD chips will overclock to. if the 3.5GHz model clocks to same max OC speed as a top end model (say 5GHz, if that is realistic), it would bring back the real perks of overclocking (i.e. poor kid gets to match performance of the rich kid's CPU with *some* effort)

man, these Handbrake High Profile HD encodes are running at 15fps with my i5. if BD can double that, that's all i need right now. 2600k, even with a 4.8GHzish OC would only do 50% better than mine.

p.s.
both BD (i mean, Zambezi) and SB-E won't have onboard GPU, right? that would suck! not for gaming or anything, i would like to see GPU accelerated encoding.

something wrong with your cpu or OS ? becuase thats pretty fucking slow for handbrake on a quad core although I have only been rencoding blue rays to mp4 I get well over 40fps on my stock clocked thuban.

 

[Anusha]

something wrong with your cpu or OS ? becuase thats pretty fucking slow for handbrake on a quad core although I have only been rencoding blue rays to mp4 I get well over 40fps on my stock clocked thuban.

There is nothing wrong with the CPU. Maybe it has gotta do with the high profile settings? I'm trying to reencode some movies which I already had ripped. Originally /fraps -> MKV, now MKV -> Mp4 for better compatibility. Should have done the Original src -> MP4 conversion in the first place. Oh well. That's what I am gonna do from now onwards.