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I am buying a new rig monday morning(YAY) and i have 2 choices. I am not on a budget but i only want to spend 300 dollars, thats my limit. So lets stick to these 2 choices , just wanted to ask on different forums which is the best choice. Also both rigs has x16 full slots, which is something i wanted, even tho i have no plans to buy a PCIE card anytime soon. But it will be a future option.

Anyways, these are my choices and i also have some questions.

Choice 1: :) BRAND NEW) eMachines - 2.4GHz AMD Athlon™ Single-Core Processor LE-1620
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9170835&type=product&id=1218043607320

Choice 2(USED BY SOMEONE WHO HAD IT FOR 2 months at a computer shop
Gateway Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.50GHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...&cm_mmc_o=TBBTkwCjCVyBpAgf mwzygtCjCVRqCjCVRq

NOTE: He has this same rig used for only $269 dollars
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Questions

#1 Is AMD good?
I have been a Intel user all my life

#2 Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.50GHZ VS AMD Athlon Single-Core Processor LE-1620?

#3 If i would buy the brand new AMD LE 1620 2.4GHz , How much VS/FASTER is it compared to my Gateway Intel Pentium III 600MHZ?

#4 How much faster is the AMD 2.4GHZ LE 1620 Vs that Celeron D at 3.0ghz i had?

#5 I don't care about getting 60fps or more in games, but i do want to get 20-40fps solid with all my games, even tho i am sure i will get around 200 in most games. But say for example, with my P3 i get 15-18fps in Jericho at 1280x1024 all high settings, how much in Jericho with the AMD 2.4GHZ would i get ?

Note: Using the 2400HD and 8400gs btw

Anyways, thanks. :)
 
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u2konline buying a new DECENT pc? Where are the pigs flying :laugh: seriously, congrats.

as for your questions

1- Amd for the price is good but single core now are crap.
2- In your case 2 cores > 1 core = Intel > AMD.
3- Light Years Away.
4- Athlon 64 arquitecture KICKS IN THE BUTT Intel netburs arquitecture.
5- Dont know which game is jericho so i cant answer but u will get some nice fps.

EDIT: I say a lot of good things about the AMD rig but for one time, do the right thing, get the intel.
 
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u2konline buying a new DECENT pc? Where are the pigs flying :laugh: seriously, congrats.
Yea decent of course. That last rig that i bought before was half broken when i bought it, even tho it was fast, but then blew up. :laugh:

as for your questions

1- Amd for the price is good but single core now are crap.
2- In your case 2 cores > 1 core = Intel > AMD.
3- Light Years Away.
4- Athlon 64 arquitecture KICKS IN THE BUTT Intel netburs arquitecture.
5- Dont know which game is jericho so i cant answer but u will get some nice fps.

EDIT: I say a lot of good things about the AMD rig but for one time, do the right thing, get the intel.
hmmmm thanks. I do want to add, the guy is only giving me a 30 day warranty for the Intel. But i guess i will have to look it over really good. I did manage to check it out a bit, no damage to it, little dusty tho, but overall pretty good.

Put it this way, if i don't like what i see in the Intel one, i am just going to go and buy the 300 brand new computer from best buy. Either way, i will be gaming hardware tomorrow evening. :rockout:
 
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the gateway is better
 
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I am buying a new rig monday morning(YAY) and i have 2 choices. I am not on a budget but i only want to spend 300 dollars, thats my limit. So lets stick to these 2 choices , just wanted to ask on different forums which is the best choice. Also both rigs has x16 full slots, which is something i wanted, even tho i have no plans to buy a PCIE card anytime soon. But it will be a future option.

Anyways, these are my choices and i also have some questions.

Choice 1: :) BRAND NEW) eMachines - 2.4GHz AMD Athlon™ Single-Core Processor LE-1620
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9170835&type=product&id=1218043607320

Choice 2(USED BY SOMEONE WHO HAD IT FOR 2 months at a computer shop
Gateway Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.50GHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...&cm_mmc_o=TBBTkwCjCVyBpAgf mwzygtCjCVRqCjCVRq

NOTE: He has this same rig used for only $269 dollars
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Questions

#1 Is AMD good?
I have been a Intel user all my life

#2 Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.50GHZ VS AMD Athlon Single-Core Processor LE-1620?

#3 If i would buy the brand new AMD LE 1620 2.4GHz , How much VS/FASTER is it compared to my Gateway Intel Pentium III 600MHZ?

#4 How much faster is the AMD 2.4GHZ LE 1620 Vs that Celeron D at 3.0ghz i had?

#5 I don't care about getting 60fps or more in games, but i do want to get 20-40fps solid with all my games, even tho i am sure i will get around 200 in most games. But say for example, with my P3 i get 15-18fps in Jericho at 1280x1024 all high settings, how much in Jericho with the AMD 2.4GHZ would i get ?

Note: Using the 2400HD and 8400gs btw

Anyways, thanks. :)

Frys has a Compaq or HP AMD Dual Core X2 4450e 45w CPU + 3GB ram + 250GB HDD + DVDRW for $299. Check Last Friday's LATimes Frys ad section or walk into Frys and you can check it out.

That Best Buy deal is not that great.
 
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Also you can buy nice videocards for use on that pci-e slot that u have never seen in your life ;)

LINKY:http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=91596

That 7900gt will give you better framerates that ur current videocards.
Well with either system, it does look like i will be buying a pcie card. I already have one mind, tho. Its one of the 4670's. It also looks like i have to buy a cheap PCIE sound card, because PCI sound cards does not fit in pciex16 slots right?

the gateway is better
Yes i agree, so i will do a good look over tomorrow at his shop. But if something does not look good in it lol, i will go for the amd one at best buy.

Man i can't wait :D
 
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Frys has a Compaq or HP AMD Dual Core X2 4450e 45w CPU + 3GB ram + 250GB HDD + DVDRW for $299. Check Last Friday's LATimes Frys ad section or walk into Frys and you can check it out.

That Best Buy deal is not that great.
That would be a great deal if i was home in California right now, but i am not. :laugh: I am in maryland at the moment, been here for about 3 months now with my girlfriend. In a area called Owings Mills. I own a house out here, and i am out here for business. Not only that, i am waiting for this to open up:

http://www.marketproshows.com/computershows/showschedule.php

I mention already that i was buying a 9500GT PCI (60 bucks ) and a Diamond 4670 PCIE(75 bucks) next month. The only way you can get hard to find PCI cards, if you go to those market shows. The next one to open is may 9-10. :rockout:
 
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Well with either system, it does look like i will be buying a pcie card. I already have one mind, tho. Its one of the 4670's. It also looks like i have to buy a cheap PCIE sound card, because PCI sound cards does not fit in pciex16 slots right?

Man i can't wait :D
that a motherboard has pcie doesnt meant it doesnt have pci. All boards that have pcie have at least a pci (except the p6t Ws revolution)
 
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#5 I don't care about getting 60fps or more in games, but i do want to get 20-40fps solid with all my games, even tho i am sure i will get around 200 in most games. But say for example, with my P3 i get 15-18fps in Jericho at 1280x1024 all high settings, how much in Jericho with the AMD 2.4GHZ would i get ?
On the AMD, I'd prolly say anywhere between 15-25 or 30 tops, depending on the spot.
I'll have to do a FPS run on my rig and see what I get and give you an even more decent scale.
 
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eMachines?

Everyone get your pitchforks, we've got a monster to chase down.
 
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On the AMD, I'd prolly say anywhere between 15-25 or 30 tops, depending on the spot.
I'll have to do a FPS run on my rig and see what I get and give you an even more decent scale.
Well i know when i had my Celeron D 3.0ghz from the time i did manage to play Jericho on it using my 2400HD, at the same settings, i get a solid 17-26fps. I guess i will find out tomorrow. Thanks for checking tho. I plan to use my 8400GS as my main card. But next month i will be using the 9500GT PCI and 4670 PCIE and just keep the rest of my 10 pci cards as backups. :)

If everything works out, i will be getting rid of my Pentium III. RIP. It serve me well since 2000, now its time for its death. My P3 wouldn't be so bad, if it had 2.0 USB speed, its running on 1.0 speed and its slow as hell. In warhead, i can go take a shower , come out the shower, make a sandwich, go outside and look at the sun, and come back and its 70% done lol.

Anyways, peace , i will report back tomorrow with some news and CPU-Z shot. :D

I just found out acer bought them, or something like that. They are for the budget buyers. I could spend up to 700 on a pc, but just trying to save some money you know. I also do not feel like spending alot on a new rig, just something to get me some good performance, 20-40 is perfect in my book. Hell, 17fps is freakin fast
 
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Alright, Yeah, I average about 35-50 FPS so you'll prolly get up to 20 ish frames.
 
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Maryland sucks, I just moved to Florida from 15 long years of living in that wasteland of a state.
I tend to visit here alot. But it doesn't sucked. I hope you understand there are 3 parts to Maryland, Baltimore county, downtown Baltimore and Baltimore city. Baltimore Country is nice and for rich and wealthy folks, Downtown Baltimore is for rich folks, but also Baltimore City is well the Poverty area.

None of the places suck, or a waste land lol. Even some parts up here in the county looks like trash, it really all depends on where you are at. Most of my friends lived in Baltimore City and in certain parts of the county, so its cool with me.

The good thing about Maryland is this: http://www.marketproshows.com/computershows/showschedule.php

That's where all my geek friends and I used to go for our computer stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5gZERHds4E
Man, just go up to Towson tall center, or the Towson area. I might drive up there tomorrow :) or downtown baltimore.

I only been to Florida once, when i was a little lad lol, i forget where i was at. But it was like 95 degrees when i was there.
 

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u2konline

Get the intel/gateway. And no I am not a fanboy.
 

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I am an AMD fan but that emachines system is garbage compared to the Gateway with the intel dual core.
 
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The LE-1650 is garbage compared to the E5200.

And for those who are unimformed, E5200 is NOT NETBURST. It has inherited the Pentium brand name simply as a budget name, not architecture related at all!!

Go with the gateway, and the 4670 will more than satisfy your needs u2k; just make sure you get a GDDR3 version, otherwise the RAM will bottleneck it.
And please don't even bother getting the 9500 GT PCI, it will only perform worse than the 4670, unless you use it as a PhysX card. But even then, its not really worth it.
If you get the Intel Gateway and a 4670, you will see mountains of performance benefits over even the Celeron D and your HD2400. It will leave your PIII in the dust.
Also, I know you don't like overclocking, but the E5200 will easily clock up to 3.2 GHz on a stock cooler. If you ever feel like doing that, then it'll run fine. :)
(I should know, mine is a C0 stepping (which is crappy) and it clocks up at 3.8 GHz)
 
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OEM = Goodbye CPU overlclocking
 
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Get the Gateway! But you'd need to buy a new PSU if you wanted to get a descent PCI-E card (yeah right!:rolleyes:) later on.
 
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Well i did not get the gateway dual core. Its used as i said, and its only a 2 weeks warranty , instead of 30days. He says, you buy what you see, etc. He did drop the price to 150 tho, but the guy and his shop are a tool, he don't even have pcie cards laying around, he says because nobody wants them :laugh:

Anyways, so i just spent 317 dollars on the AMD 2.4ghz 1620 desktop. :rockout:
With Vista basic. Vista has too much fu**** junk in it, google toolbar? are they serious.

Anyways:



:toast: I will play some games later., once i get use to this new OS and get rid of all this crap on it.
 

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#22
OMFG- PREBUILT MACHINES are filled with BLOATWARE! A clean vista install is FAST, has nothing on it.... you even have to DOWNLOAD MSN messenger... So don't hate on Vista until you know the full truth. Go to MS and order a clean OEM Vista Basic disc and install with that... :nutkick:

Also- if I give you an X1800GTO would you use it? lol.
 
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#23
Wow, u spent more than twice as much for an inferior machine? Congrats...
 
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#24
Wow, u spent more than twice as much for an inferior machine? Congrats...
That's not even half as powerful... oh well. His decision.

With Vista basic. Vista has too much fu**** junk in it, google toolbar? are they serious.
No. Pre-builts have too much crap on them. Vista doesn't come with crap. OEM OS are actually quite void of extra 'junk'.
 
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Memory 8GB DDR3 @ 2000MHz 10-10-10-28 1T
Video Card(s) MSI RX 480 8GB Gaming
Storage Crucial M4 128 Gb + 4TB
Display(s) ASUS 27" 1440p 144hz FreeSync
Case Fractal Design Define R3
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar DS
Power Supply Corsair HX 620W
Software Windows 10 x64
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