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[Buying advice]Budget 450-500USD, need waterproofing, wireless charging, rooting (A MUST!), and custom rom support. Been out of the phone loop.

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As the topic title indicates. Need something also a decent upgrade from my Nexus 6 (64GB/ATT) Qualcomm cpu/gpu a must. No exy or MT.

I'd like to go with a custom ROM. Samsung is getting more and more restrictive. I've looked into S8+/S9+ and note variants but there's a limitation of 80% battery life for the kludgy custom rom situation..,

Are Samsung's newer stock ROMs any better than the hellacious S4's???

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head over to xda developers, see what are common popular phones to root and mod, I have a marshmallow version device myself(android 6), dont miss the security updates and using a custom launcher and recovery, all is well and i dont miss any feature, but usually a newer android version vs. customization and unlocking counteract each other.

Edit: heading over to xda myself now, need to find out if i can install root and xposed on my car head unit stereo...
 
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Have you looked at the new Pixel 3a or 3a XL phones Google just released? The reviews I've looked at have been positive.

$399 for the 3a or $479 for the 3a XL

Comes with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 670.

 
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That phone does not have any options of root or custom kernel, and it will take time to have them if any
The only resource I found regarding this is
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/9y4f7u OP stressed that he needs advanced tinkering.
How about the Asus ZenFone 5Z?

Would seem there is custom rom activity @ xda developers.

Asus's where to buy links to Newegg priced at $399
 
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I'm not sure you can get water proofing & wireless charging at or under $500, these are premium features for premium phones although some obscure brand could offer them at much cheaper prices.
 
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I'm not sure you can get water proofing & wireless charging at or under $500, these are premium features for premium phones although some obscure brand could offer them at much cheaper prices.
well I found em on some S8/+ and S9+ on amazon with those features. just that the battery life limitation is a major issue.

The pixel 3's notch is comically YUUUUUGE! that notch put the XL in the name lmao.
 
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That phone does not have any options of root or custom kernel, and it will take time to have them if any
The only resource I found regarding this is
That's the problem with all modern android phones: wanna use NFC payments - make sure that OEM lock is ON. My friend recently bricked his Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s, cause his chinese version (fake international) came with OEM unlock and root right from the package, and he couldn't use GooglePay.
Also, some apps that heavily rely on security will not work on a phone with OEM unlock. And once again - I mean all modern phones, not just Pixel.

Are Samsung's newer stock ROMs any better than the hellacious S4's???
I have an S9[G960F/DS] on my desk right now (it's a work device, personally I hate Samsung). From what I can tell, it's even worse on newer ones. Anything from S7 upwards may flag warnings with Knoxx (sammy security subsystem). Stock firmware is pretty much AOSP with the regular Samsung crapware. There are some neat custom features, but for most people(like me) they are more of a burden.
 

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That's the problem with all modern android phones: wanna use NFC payments - make sure that OEM lock is ON. My friend recently bricked his Xiaomi Mi Mix 2s, cause his chinese version (fake international) came with OEM unlock and root right from the package, and he couldn't use GooglePay.
Also, some apps that heavily rely on security will not work on a phone with OEM unlock. And once again - I mean all modern phones, not just Pixel.


I have an S9[G960F/DS] on my desk right now (it's a work device, personally I hate Samsung). From what I can tell, it's even worse on newer ones. Anything from S7 upwards may flag warnings with Knoxx (sammy security subsystem). Stock firmware is pretty much AOSP with the regular Samsung crapware. There are some neat custom features, but for most people(like me) they are more of a burden.
Samsung are over rated, crap battery, bloatware, sloooooow updates, useless edge screen, tell me one useful edge app? fragile as fook, i see sooooo many s7,8, and even 9's with cracked screens, it's fine if you want a big ugly case on it, but most don't.
 
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As the topic title indicates. Need something also a decent upgrade from my Nexus 6 (64GB/ATT) Qualcomm cpu/gpu a must. No exy or MT.

I'd like to go with a custom ROM. Samsung is getting more and more restrictive. I've looked into S8+/S9+ and note variants but there's a limitation of 80% battery life for the kludgy custom rom situation..,

Are Samsung's newer stock ROMs any better than the hellacious S4's???

BRANDS OFF LIMITS: HUAWAWEI/ZTE/XIOMEI.
Oneplus is an excellent option.
 
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Have you used one recently? If so, what didn't you like?
I bought a OnePlus One way back (still have the One,) and loved the phone on it's price to performance ratio but the recent price creeping up to flag-ship level had me looking at their competitors.

This recent lack of water resistance IP rating has me wondering if the OP might be better off with another brand.
Unlike many high-end smartphones on the market, OnePlus phones have never had official IP ratings for water resistance. But as the price of OnePlus devices has crept up − going from “flagship killers” to bona fide flagships − this has started to look like a bigger shortcoming.

As such, OnePlus received some criticism when it recently revealed that it was not going to IP classify the OnePlus 7 and OnePlus 7 Pro. Co-founder Carl Pei posted a statement on OnePlus’ official forum, accompanied by a video (embedded below), in an attempt to justify the decision.
 
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As the topic title indicates. Need something also a decent upgrade from my Nexus 6 (64GB/ATT) Qualcomm cpu/gpu a must. No exy or MT.

I'd like to go with a custom ROM. Samsung is getting more and more restrictive. I've looked into S8+/S9+ and note variants but there's a limitation of 80% battery life for the kludgy custom rom situation..,

Are Samsung's newer stock ROMs any better than the hellacious S4's???

BRANDS OFF LIMITS: HUAWAWEI/ZTE/XIOMEI.
HTC's were always mod friendly back when I was doing that. I also liked that their recovery partition was isolated and didn't require flashing when switching roms so if it fails it is easier to recover. I believe Samsung has the recovery flashed when you do a rom.

Any specific reason you want to root it? You are getting more problems then you solve. Android especially since their app store is...special.
 
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lack of water resistance IP
But even Samsung and Apple have warranty disclaimers that if the phone is water damaged it will not be covered by warranty. So why the need for an IP rating and the need for such? Pay extra money for an IP rating just to be out of a phone that has water damage because it went for a swim however brief or long. I understand it is Linus's Blanket to have and IP rating but no warranty covering the IP is lazy. That means they paid for a rating that they are not willing to stand behind. At least with my Moose Lights if they fail because of water, I can send them back for new ones under warranty.
 
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how about xiaomi mi9?

or you can find some older sony for a cheaper price (XZ1/XZ2)
no wireless charging though for them sonys
 
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HTC's were always mod friendly back when I was doing that. I also liked that their recovery partition was isolated and didn't require flashing when switching roms so if it fails it is easier to recover. I believe Samsung has the recovery flashed when you do a rom.

Any specific reason you want to root it? You are getting more problems then you solve. Android especially since their app store is...special.
Need ad block and tether.
 
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Need ad block and tether.
There are many adblockers that don't require root. Which specific one are you using.
Also, what's tether?
 
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wifi hotspot
I thought you meant some super-special app. In this case, you don't need root at all. I think the only phone I had in recent years that had this feature disabled/limited, was my brother's Verizon-locked LG G5, for which I only needed root to fix one line in build.prop. All normal(non-contract) phones should have USB tethering and Wifi hotspot working out of the box.
I assume you are in US?
 
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yes, carriers are a you know what here..
 
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Need ad block and tether.
I haven't needed root for tether for years and someone else already mentioned ad blocker not needing it. I personally think you are better off without root. If you go root, I would checkout HTC phones but I don't know if they have had anything worth while for a few years. They were always mod friendly though.
 
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I haven't needed root for tether for years and someone else already mentioned ad blocker not needing it. I personally think you are better off without root. If you go root, I would checkout HTC phones but I don't know if they have had anything worth while for a few years. They were always mod friendly though.
adblockers without root use a vpn, I often VPN into my home connection, however vpn drains battery faster. The only HTC phone I have had was a windows mobile (pre metro) lol.
 
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