Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 discussion thread

Kursah · Oct 18, 2009

I would assume we'd see it on Steam's preorder/coming soon list if it was being released there in just a few weeks. If the news you sourced is true, it's kind of a bummer...I'll be waiting and seeing as I'm not sold since I haven't read the news you sourced at any other place I frequent for my gaming news. Not doubting you, but not necessarily believing the news you brought to the table just yet...maybe I'm in shock...or maybe it's not as true as some might hope. That or maybe it'll hit bigger time places even closer to release...either way, sorry man, I don't quite believe it yet till I see more about it.

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twicksisted · Oct 18, 2009

Kursah said:
I would assume we'd see it on Steam's preorder/coming soon list if it was being released there in just a few weeks. If the news you sourced is true, it's kind of a bummer...I'll be waiting and seeing as I'm not sold since I haven't read the news you sourced at any other place I frequent for my gaming news. Not doubting you, but not necessarily believing the news you brought to the table just yet...maybe I'm in shock...or maybe it's not as true as some might hope. That or maybe it'll hit bigger time places even closer to release...either way, sorry man, I don't quite believe it yet till I see more about it.

just google search it...
its on the infinityward website forum... no dedicated servers... only P2P
its also all over many other websites covering the game launch... it is true im afriad!

Kursah · Oct 18, 2009

I've read a little bit about it on IW forums, and seen a couple little blurbs, but nothing as huge as I would expect for a reaction to such a decision for how this game will play online on a PC. I'm gonna stay skeptical and await more news (which at this point seems like it could be bad news waiting to happen). Losing Dedicated Servers and Mod support would be a huge blow to the supportive community for sure, P2P matchmaking should be left on consoles imo. I'll stay positive that this is just something to get people riled up for some stupid reason...but if it's true I might have to question my purchase of it as I'm sure my clan will...if it's not, then I will be gaming my ass off when it's released. Hell if things don't work out, sure it'll be a loss, but not the end of the genre, it could open up opportunities for other games that otherwise might have been overshadowed if MW2 fails to make sales due to lesser support, hard saying what will happen but at this point there's still a part of me that's skeptical of this news.

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Mussels · Oct 18, 2009

they cant do something this dumb, and kill the competitive tournament game play.

odds are it will be released later, but only run in steam like all the valve dedicated servers.

mastrdrver · Oct 18, 2009

IW showing their ability to fail epically.

If I wanted to play the COD games on a console, I wouldn't have spent so much coin on my system.

TheMailMan78 · Oct 18, 2009

Treyarch doesn't seem so bad now do they?

dir_d · Oct 18, 2009

Heres a Petition to get Dedicated Servers in COD:MW2 http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html

About 3k signed it so far should be alot more by monday when IW will probably look at it.

rpsgc · Oct 18, 2009

dir_d said:
Heres a Petition to get Dedicated Servers in COD:MW2 http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html

About 3k signed it so far should be alot more by monday when IW will probably look at it.

Doubt they care about an internet petition though.

So, basically:

Here are the snippets:

We're doing a lot on the backend to make the game accessible for everyone.
There is no delay for the PC version of MW2
There's prestige mode
Jason West at the MP event, said that he was dead on, on the matchmaking servers. We've been building a system on the backend called IW.NET.
You are completely reliant on IW.NET. There are no server lists. There are no dedicated servers.
You have private matches where you can customize the game
You cannot put MW2 on a dedicated server.
This is the first time we've ever done something like this and the team has huge plans for what IW.NET develops into.
Customizing your game...you have quite a few options in a private match
You're getting same game (as in Console), plus matchmaking and private match.
Server admin point-of view, NO DEDICATED SERVERS

I've summarized some of my own thoughts from the cast here:

General

IW partnering through Steam is what you will see in the future. Matchmaking is not through Steam, but IW.NET is run in conjunction with Steam.
GSP's will no longer be renting out servers.
No PunkBuster. VAC will be used as an anti cheat.
Retail distribution: Pre-orders will get a disk. Or you could order from Steam.
DLC may now need to be paid for - not confirmed.
Piracy was only a small reason for going to IW.NET - not the whole reason.

Clans:

No more clan servers. Private matches, replace clan servers.
Listen servers will connect to each other.
IW.NET/Steam will replace the community server admin

Competitive Gaming

Competitive gaming has changed forever.
It might be possible in the future for IW engineers to load a "competitive" setting on IW.NET, but it is far from a guarantee. It might also never happen.

Modding

Modding the game is now very much in question. Fourzerotwo had no info on modding. However, it appears that there will be no mods or maps for MW2.
Modding in SpecOps? Unknown.

http://bashandslash.com/

twicksisted · Oct 18, 2009

again, i think that they are trying to do something far to radical and will most likely fail at it... im sure a few people who have just got into pc FPS gaming will enjoy the release a lot without missing anything, but for those used to hosting / playing on their own dedicated servers and admining them, it will just open up a hole in the market and some other game company will fill that void.... competitive gaming hasnt changed forever as noted by bashandslash above, this is just one game, and just one portal for that game

Marineborn · Oct 18, 2009

FAIL!!!...wow....good deal, now i can buy a real game....glad i read this can save myself 50 dollars now

MadClown · Oct 18, 2009

First $60, now this shit, I'll have Borderlands to play anyways, wont have time for MW2.

Marineborn · Oct 18, 2009

I hear you madclown, im right behind you, borderlands for the win

Marineborn · Oct 18, 2009

oh yeah...just thought id mention call of duty 4, 2......., in my opinion has gotten away from reality and getting to arcadey , i was gonna stay away anyhow

CDdude55 · Oct 18, 2009

Im buying it for the SP.

The multiplayer can go to hell.

TheMailMan78 · Oct 18, 2009

CDdude55 said:
Im buying it for the SP.

The multiplayer can go to hell.

60 bucks for a 3 hour game? You're a genius!

shevanel · Oct 18, 2009

That's $20 an hour. But if you play it on hardcore you might "save" $ and squeeze another hour out.

Looks like SP mw2 is going to be the most pirated game ever...

rpsgc · Oct 18, 2009

shevanel said:
...

Is that supposed to mean anything...? :wtf:

Mussels · Oct 18, 2009

wallhacks already?

niko084 · Oct 18, 2009

Mussels said:
wallhacks already?

That's a different game.... *Combat Arms* Not even sure why the picture is there.. :ohwell:

shk021051 · Oct 18, 2009

Dedicated Servers for CoD:MW2 for pc ????
that true??

CDdude55 · Oct 18, 2009

TheMailMan78 said:
60 bucks for a 3 hour game? You're a genius!

, i know its going to be short. But as long as its good like the first i don't mind.

I never liked the multiplayer for the COD4(i liked the old COD2 rifle type online)

dir_d · Oct 18, 2009

shevanel said:
Looks like SP mw2 is going to be the most pirated game ever...

ROFL.. So true, This breaks my heart and i know Evenbalance (the people that make Punk Buster) are pissed about this too. You know how much revenue they will be missing out on.
I think IW just got money hungry and Lazy at the same time, keep everything in house and use steam for anticheat.

twicksisted · Oct 18, 2009

last time i looked that petition had 12000 signatures... and at $50 a game thats a loss ofr $600000 already and counting for IW

rpsgc · Oct 18, 2009

shk021051 said:
Dedicated Servers for CoD:MW2 for pc ????
that true??

No dedicated servers, yes, it's true.

Kursah · Oct 18, 2009

twicksisted said:
last time i looked that petition had 12000 signatures... and at $50 a game thats a loss ofr $600000 already and counting for IW

I just looked and read this:

17828 Total Signatures

When I signed there was a shade under 3,000 signiatures. That is a huge turnover thus far, I bet we'll hear more from IW in the short future about the concerns listed, or at least I hope we do. I'm still curious if it's gonna be hosted by Steam's services whey there's no listing of it yet...Steam generally get's a pretty good lead on big-name titles like that, especially with plans to use Steam's VAC and MP services. I don't mind that part though, I really like Steam and I think VAC is better than PB any day of the week, and maybe they will release a dedicated server program eventually in steam like so many other games have through that service...one can only hope.

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