Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 discussion thread

[HookeyStreet]

That's exactly what he , myself and others are talking about!

It's not wrong for you to like a game, you can like and dislike whatever you like ( no pun intended )

The issue is that this game ( not just this game, but this one has a such a high profile it lends itself to the debate ) is sending a very clear message to the worldwide gaming community and that message is...

We will do what we like with our games and we will charge you exponentially for the priviledge of playing.

We will not provide you with what you have become accustomed to because our new business model ( the one we have recently introduced after you supported us thus far ) can milk you all far more effectively and give us control over how you can play, what you can play and when you can play it.

At any point in the future we can and will end the game at our whim and make you spend more cash as and when we feel we need a new car.

Basically they are ripping the guts out of the industry with a new model of make it quick, sell it at the highest possible price and make it short so you will be clammering for DLC!

I mean FFS, they ( IW ) are already telling the world they are adding the finishing touches to MW3. MW3 will of course be the other half of MW2 that the bean counters decided you were not going to have, not even for $60!!

Valve started the ball rolling with L4D and are now continuing with L4D2...3, e.t.c

This is all going to end up costing us gamers more money and ( for the pc users ) restricting how we can enjoy our games.

The only way to stop it is by voting with your wallet, not because you don't like a game, but because you don't like being treated like a cash machine!

When you put it like that I cant argue. It is ridiculous how much cash they are charging for games now.

Come to mention it. How MW2 ended did have that '1 game cut into 2' feeling about it (although I did enjoy it) And TBH, it did exactly what it was meant to do.....make me want MW3.

 

[AltecV1]

so my favorite forum is overrun by console kids!!! it must be the sign that hell is frozen and the sky is falling but what you gonna to, it is the era of "casual gamers"

 

[TheMailMan78]

I see exactly what your saying, but we really can't do much about it. As you know, all devs first priority is making money, its the objective. They could care less about you or me or even the entire industry for that matter. The majority of games that are being released are mulitplatform, and that ''one size fits all'' attitude is being expressed by many other devs. They will always aim for the bigger market(consoles). Do i agree that they're leaving alot of us ''core'' gamers out?, yes. But its gotten to the point where, as long as these ports and mulitplatform releases include AA and some good video setting options, then i have no problem with picking the game up. We can sit here all we want and talk about how IW has failed us, how the industry is releasing nothing but garbage ports, how the games are not utilizing all the potential our rigs have. But unless we can revolutionize that, we really don't have much of an option.

You think that just cause a couple of us don't buy the game or sign a petition is going to make them change there minds about the way they develop and market games?, its not gonna happen. Its them as a developer to make that change and insure that every gamer is covered, from the extreme tweakers and performance junkies to the pain old dedicated gamers. Until then, we got to take it like men and hope for the best out of those devs that actually care about us gamers.

Yeah thats the attitude. "Just take it". Sorry but in this case I don't have to be a whore. This isn't the IRS. This is an entertainment industry. YOU CAN fight it. However if we all take your attitude we will be paying micro-transactions for each sheet of toilet paper we use.

The answer is simple. Do not support (buy) products that have adopted this new business model no matter how great the game may seem. If you do I don't want to hear any crying when you can only play one game a year because you cant afford anything more.

Also I am willing to bet the PC market is just as big as the console market. They base consoles demographic off of store sales but omit digital downloads. How many PC games have you gone to the store to buy lately? Thats what I thought. If they included Steam, D2D and the rest I bet PC gamers would smoke any console on the market in sales.

Developers have been going agressive towards consoles because you noobs will buy anything! You are known to "Just take it". Unless console players wake up and stand with us we are ALL screwed.

http://www.niubie.com/up/2009/06/codsubscrip01-noscale.jpg

http://www.niubie.com/up/2009/06/codsubscrip02-noscale.jpg

http://www.niubie.com/up/2009/06/codsubscrip03-noscale.jpg

This is telling...

AND THIS IS EXACTLY WTF I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!

 

[AltecV1]

Yeah thats the attitude. "Just take it". Sorry but in this case I don't have to be a whore. This isn't the IRS. This is an entertainment industry. YOU CAN fight it. However if we all take your attitude we will be paying micro-transactions for each sheet of toilet paper we use.

The answer is simple. Do not support (buy) products that have adopted this new business model no matter how great the game may seem. If you do I don't want to hear any crying when you can only play one game a year because you cant afford anything more.

Also I am willing to bet the PC market is just as big as the console market. They base consoles demographic off of store sales but omit digital downloads. How many PC games have you gone to the store to buy lately? Thats what I thought. If they included Steam, D2D and the rest I bet PC gamers would smoke any console on the market in sales.

Developers have been going agressive towards consoles because you noobs will buy anything! You are known to "Just take it". Unless console players wake up and stand with us we are ALL screwed.



AND THIS IS EXACTLY WTF I AM TALKING ABOUT!!!!

nerd rage

 

[CDdude55]

Yeah thats the attitude. "Just take it". Sorry but in this case I don't have to be a whore. This isn't the IRS. This is an entertainment industry. YOU CAN fight it. However if we all take your attitude we will be paying micro-transactions for each sheet of toilet paper we use.

You can't fight an industry unless there willing to change there ways as a developer and marketer.

The answer is simple. Do not support (buy) products that have adopted this new business model no matter how great the game may seem. If you do I don't want to hear any crying when you can only play one game a year because you cant afford anything more.

Internally yes, YOU will reap the rewards of knowing you didn't pay for that game. Your $60 not going to them isn't hurting them if you choose to spend it elsewhere. Because they have 310 million reasons to get over it.

Also I am willing to bet the PC market is just as big as the console market. They base consoles demographic off of store sales but omit digital downloads. How many PC games have you gone to the store to buy lately? Thats what I thought. If they included Steam, D2D and the rest I bet PC gamers would smoke any console on the market in sales.

This is true, they don't take services like Steam into account or other ways of digitally distributed games. While i don't have any hard numbers, i can bet Consoles are ahead. They are plagued by the mainstream and offer the quickest way of getting your gaming fix on.

Developers have been going agressive towards consoles because you noobs will buy anything! You are known to "Just take it". Unless console players wake up and stand with us we are ALL screwed.

I haven't played a Console in some time.(all i have is a Wii). And yes, i do agree that if Console gamers were willing to stand by the PC gamers in times of trouble in the gaming industry, i do believe that then, we would be able to actually change something. Because once the majority hates something, you know you better change.

 

[Muhad]

Interesting ... cencorship at Amazon ...

http://www.incgamers.com/News/19313/amazon-modern-warfare-2-customer-reviews-deleted

Gee, I wonder who or what organization would have asked to have these types of reviews delete?

 

[entropy13]

You can't fight an industry unless there willing to change there ways as a developer and marketer.

Ideally yes you can, because that's how a market should work. But we all know the "free" market today doesn't work like that...

I haven't played a Console in some time.(all i have is a Wii). And yes, i do agree that if Console gamers were willing to stand by the PC gamers in times of trouble in the gaming industry, i do believe that then, we would be able to actually change something. Because once the majority hates something, you know you better change.

Agreed. My latest console is the PlayStation in my case.

 

[El_Mayo]

I heard about a controversial Russian mission in Modern Warfare 2
what's that all about?

 

[kid41212003]

I heard about a controversial Russian mission in Modern Warfare 2
what's that all about?

Are you kidding me? All the mission are about Russian.

Spoiler

The Russian invaded the US, drop a nuclear EMP bomb on the orbit and destroyed the White House.

 

[El_Mayo]

Are you kidding me? All the mission are about Russian.

Spoiler

The Russian invaded the US, drop a nuclear EMP bomb on the orbit and destroyed the White House.

oh i'll be more specific
my friend said:

"yeah in this mission you're in an airport and you walk in and kill everyone with a minigun"

 

[DrPepper]

I heard about a controversial Russian mission in Modern Warfare 2
what's that all about?

Yeah you shoot up an airport

Oh that was a spoiler

 

["Born"_*Leader**]

I seriously cannot wait for the NV goggles. MAIT that's cool!!

 

[Mussels]

oh i'll be more specific
my friend said:

"yeah in this mission you're in an airport and you walk in and kill everyone with a minigun"

your friends knowlege of military hardware is teh suck.

you dont get a minigun, you get an RPD-74 light machine gun

 

[El_Mayo]

your friends knowlege of military hardware is teh suck.

you dont get a minigun, you get an RPD-74 light machine gun

well i'm sorry! what's so "controversial" about this mission?

 

[Mussels]

well i'm sorry! what's so "controversial" about this mission?

murdering large amounts of helpless civilians. watching them crawl away bleeding, and gunning them down.

 

["Born"_*Leader**]

jeezman.. what about my g g g goggles?

 

[iDash]

Call of Duty- MW2

My Review-

The Game is the same as the first one only Smaller Maps with Less Stuff!

As a Former COD-UO Base Assault FAv Guy,
Every Year this Franchise goes Down the Hill a Little Farther!

3/10-
it gets a 3,
because they used Steam and I can smash the discs with a hammer!

Death to Discs!

 

[El_Mayo]

murdering large amounts of helpless civilians. watching them crawl away bleeding, and gunning them down.

oh, right
well.. i like the sound of that

well its not "controversial"if your black thats what black people too all the time

what?

 

[AltecV1]

horribly.

your so cruel

 

[El_Mayo]

your so cruel

if by cruel you mean not amused by your ignorant jokes, then yes.

 

[erocker]

Racist has a vacation. Carry on with the light hearted MW2 discussion.

 

[El_Mayo]

Racist has a vacation. Carry on with the light hearted MW2 discussion.

Yeah, so like i was saying...
is modern warfare 2 actually worth the buy on PC?

 

[CDdude55]

Yeah, so like i was saying...
is modern warfare 2 actually worth the buy on PC?

It really depends on you.

I have it on PC, and its not that bad. Definitely not revolutionary, but its an overall well rounded game.

 

[Rapidfire48]

I would love to see just how many PC copies were sold without Activision bloating the numbers...

 

[Asylum]

I heard about a controversial Russian mission in Modern Warfare 2
what's that all about?

I played last night and recorded it.
I dont see what the big deal is with this level.
I mean (Come on people its just a game.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmXd93vZY3s