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Can anyone recomend a video course on basic computer repair?

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I looked up my local council to see if they did any evening clases on *Conputer repair* but the only thing i could see was a IT course on computers.The reason is that a board i was trying to get an os on had a problem with a burning smell fron the board :( .Plus the fact i would like to know how to test a board and replace Components..I have all the tools for doing repaires.
 
The book
  • Upgrading and Repairing PCs by Scott Mueller
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Go get some books and read them too.
 
as a general rule burning smells are bad...
 
Can anyone recomend a video course on basic computer repair?
I've read books. I've taken course. I'm a certified electronics technician with multiple certs in computer repair. Does any of that really help? Not really.

The best advice I can give is to start at the wall. Is your mains voltage correct, clean and stable?
Is the computer plugged in and turned on?
Is the PSU delivering good, clean, stable power?

Why is the above the first steps in troubleshooting? Because EVERYTHING inside the computer case depends on good, clean, stable power.
 
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I looked up my local council to see if they did any evening clases on *Conputer repair* but the only thing i could see was a IT course on computers.The reason is that a board i was trying to get an os on had a problem with a burning smell fron the board :( .Plus the fact i would like to know how to test a board and replace Components..I have all the tools for doing repaires.
You'll need an engineering degree to understand and design such systems.

Diagnosing stuff is a lot simpler but I'm unaware of any certifications that teach you how to do it.

Your best bet would be to google the model and make of the thing you're trying to repair and search for associated information/videos.

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Some stuff to get you started -

1. BigCliveDotCom -

2. Element14 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwO8CTSLTkii9S_vhEOsyJ17RI3jjBZ95

3. Eevblog - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvOlSehNtuHsc8y1buFPJZaD1kKzIxpWL

4. GreatScott - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAROrg3NQn7cyu01HpOv5BWo217XWBZu0
 
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The book
  • Upgrading and Repairing PCs by Scott Mueller
has 3 hours of video

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Thanks for that
as a general rule burning smells are bad...
Sad to say you are right
I've read books. I've taken course. I'm a certified electronics technician will multiple certs in computer repair. Does any of that really help? Not really.

The best advice I can give is to start at the wall. Is your mains voltage correct, clean and stable?
Is the computer plugged in and turned on?
Is the PSU delivering good, clean, stable power?

Why is the above the first steps in troubleshooting? Because EVERYTHING inside the computer case depends on good, clean, stable power.
I have checked the PSU with a tester ,and there is no problem with that. :) I can,t see any signs of burning on there ,that could be because i turned it off straight away .Can you see anything wrong with it.?

The book
  • Upgrading and Repairing PCs by Scott Mueller
has 3 hours of video

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Thanks for that Shrek I will check that out.:)i am getting the 20th edition at £5.20 on eBay Just messaged the seller to see if it comes with the dvd.

You'll need an engineering degree to understand and design such systems.

Diagnosing stuff is a lot simpler but I'm unaware of any certifications that teach you how to do it.

Your best bet would be to google the model and make of the thing you're trying to repair and search for associated information/videos.

----
Some stuff to get you started -

1. BigCliveDotCom -

2. Element14 - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwO8CTSLTkii9S_vhEOsyJ17RI3jjBZ95

3. Eevblog - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvOlSehNtuHsc8y1buFPJZaD1kKzIxpWL

4. GreatScott - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAROrg3NQn7cyu01HpOv5BWo217XWBZu0
Thanks for all that

lambda. i will check the stuff you have mentioned on here.:)

 

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I have checked the PSU with a tester ,and there is no problem with that.
PSU testers are great for verifying a PSU is bad - missing an output for example. Or if the tester has an actual voltage display (like this one I keep in my tool bag in my truck for house calls), it can tell you if a voltage is out of tolerance. But because they only have a tiny "dummy load" they are not conclusive as they don't provide a variety of loads as PSUs see with attached computers. Nor do they test for excessive ripple and other anomalies that affect computer stability. This can only be done by using an oscilloscope or a dedicated power supply “analyzer” - sophisticated (and expensive!) electronic test equipment requiring special training to operate, and a basic knowledge of electronics theory to understand the results. Therefore, conclusively testing a power supply is done in properly equipped electronics repair facilities.

This is why swapping in a known good power supply, a tried-and-true troubleshooting method used by amateurs and professionals alike, is typically the best and easiest alternative to conclusively testing a supply.

If me, I would try to find a friend or relative who has a spare known good PSU, or who will let you temporarily swap in their PSU to see what happens.
 
PSU testers are great for verifying a PSU is bad - missing an output for example. Or if the tester has an actual voltage display (like this one I keep in my tool bag in my truck for house calls), it can tell you if a voltage is out of tolerance. But because they only have a tiny "dummy load" they are not conclusive as they don't provide a variety of loads as PSUs see with attached computers. Nor do they test for excessive ripple and other anomalies that affect computer stability. This can only be done by using an oscilloscope or a dedicated power supply “analyzer” - sophisticated (and expensive!) electronic test equipment requiring special training to operate, and a basic knowledge of electronics theory to understand the results. Therefore, conclusively testing a power supply is done in properly equipped electronics repair facilities.

This is why swapping in a known good power supply, a tried-and-true troubleshooting method used by amateurs and professionals alike, is typically the best and easiest alternative to conclusively testing a supply.

If me, I would try to find a friend or relative who has a spare known good PSU, or who will let you temporarily swap in their PSU to see what happens.
I saw that one on youtube i. have this basic one

Power Supply Tester Checker, Computer Power Supply Tester Checker Power Supply Tester for Computer 20/24 Pin HDD SATA Floppy for Any Computer Technician as you can see this one doesn't.I get you there .I have a couple of recent ones i have bought.But the one i use for testing my motherboards is the one i used for the motherboard which had a burning smell. Do you see anything that might have gone on the board i don,t see anything that looks like it had been burnt out.But then again as soon as i smelt that smell i turned it off. straight away.​

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i. have this basic one
Yeah, that is better than nothing, but still not conclusive as it doesn't display the actual voltages, doesn't provide a variety of realist loads, and doesn't show how much unwanted ripple is riding the DC voltages.

That one is great for plugging into a spare PSU, tricking it to start up so you can test drive and fan motors, coolant pumps and RGB lighting.
 

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@Bill_Bright 2nd pic attached, ATX connector, that 5V pin doesnt look happy one bit!



@Greenslade Would it be possible to get clearer pics of the 20 pin ATX connector from both sides? It may be just dust but the discoloration makes me lean towards heat stress in the area.
 
@Bill_Bright 2nd pic attached, ATX connector, that 5V pin doesnt look happy one bit!



@Greenslade Would it be possible to get clearer pics of the 20 pin ATX connector from both sides? It may be just dust but the discoloration makes me lean towards heat stress in the area.
Here it is it looks like dirt
 

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Plus the fact i would like to know how to test a board and replace Components..I have all the tools for doing repaires.

I'm not sure one can really repair a computer at the component level, most of the time it's just replacing parts like RAM or cards. I've replaced mother board capacitors (not easy) and those on power supplies (dangerous) as well as replacing broken USB ports.
 
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I'm not sure one can really repair a computer, most of the time it's just replacing parts. I've replaced mother board capacitors (not easy) and those on power supplies (dangerous).
That is what i want to do just the basic stuff like replacing
capacitors,And how to test motherboards I have the basic stuff for doing those things.I would not touch anything in a psu ,i would leave that to a Qualified person like Bill :)
What do think of the ATX connector i think that is just dirt after all the there was no burning smell from the PSU.
The book you recommened has just been posted .
It was the 20 nd eddtion i got that for £5.13 all in.The 22 nd was £34.99 plus £2.80 postage and that was only in good
Mine was very good:)
it should be a intresting read. :)
 
Has the mobo not been used in a very long time? If so, the dust buildup may be the cause of the burning smell. I've had computers and printers make burning smells if they have not been turned on in years.
HOWEVER, those smells typically go away after around an hour of usage. If they persist, I'd start looking for other problems.
 
Has the mobo not been used in a very long time? If so, the dust buildup may be the cause of the burning smell. I've had computers and printers make burning smells if they have not been turned on in years.
HOWEVER, those smells typically go away after around an hour of usage. If they persist, I'd start looking for other problems.
I have only used it a few times in the last few years.I have used the blower to get dust off a couple of days ago ,but been a bit scared to try it since then.What is your view about ATX connector it does look a bit dirty ,but the snell was coming from the cpu area.
I turned it off as soon as i smelt the burning snell.
 
The book you recommened has just been posted .
It was the 20 nd eddtion i got that for £5.13 all in.The 22 nd was £34.99 plus £2.80 postage and that was only in good
Mine was very good:)
it should be a intresting read. :)

It is a good book, although even the latest edition is 10 years out of date and can be rather repetitive.


What do think of the ATX connector i think that is just dirt after all the there was no burning smell from the PSU.

I'd just fire it up and see how it runs.
 
Looking at your pics, i see the 2 and 3 pics show the 20 pin has gotten the plastic on the front hot enough to discolor and the 4th and 5th pin group of that 20 on the reverse, back, side of the board show the heat also. Did you use case stand offs,, or was this on wood/cardboard?!?
 
Looking at your pics, i see the 2 and 3 pics show the 20 pin has gotten the plastic on the front hot enough to discolor and the 4th and 5th pin group of that 20 on the reverse, back, side of the board show the heat also. Did you use case stand offs,, or was this on wood/cardboard?!?
it was just placed on this LIAN LI motherboard try.Is there anything i can do to resolve the issue?I did not screw it down.I did make this I/O SHIELD for it I suppose because it was not screwed down to the tray it might have moved to one of the stand offs on the board and shorted it that way.I will test on a box from now on.
 

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Seems like a lot of work for such an old motherboard
 
Here it is it looks like dirt
Yeah, all I am really seeing is a lot of dirt/dust build. Some discoloration (yellowing) is normal over time. If dark brown or black, I might be concerned.

I'm not sure one can really repair a computer at the component level
Shrek in right. Way WAY back in the early days, motherboard manufacturers made schematics and IPBs (illustrated parts breakdown) available to technicians. These pubs identified each circuit and component with test points and expected test point readings (voltages, resistance, capacitance and often waveforms too). They identified each component with their specs. So, if handy with a meter and/or scope, one could troubleshoot down to component level, and easily find a suitable replacement.

But that practice went away a long time ago. Not only are those publications expensive to produce and maintain, but companies would rather users either return the device to the maker for [expensive to us, profitable for them] repair. Or better yet, we buy new resulting in more profit for them.

Today, even qualified techs can't troubleshoot to component level because they don't have the references to see what is expected at any given test point. Yeah, we can do a visual inspection and look for burnt or broken components. But burnt components can be caused by other failed components in the circuit. And even if we could isolate the fault to a specific component, odds are it won't be labeled in a way we can determine its specs in order to get the proper replacement. :(

Way WAY back in the day when I was in school, we were taught extensive electronics theory and component level troubleshooting. These days, techs are taught to swap out black boxes (the major subassemblies) because the self-diagnostics feature said that box was bad. They have no clue what "bad boys ravished our young girls but violet goes willingly" means (note that's the clean version).

"Twinkle twinkle, little star"
"E is equal to IR"
"Up above the world so high"
"P is equal to EI"
 
Yeah, all I am really seeing is a lot of dirt/dust build. Some discoloration (yellowing) is normal over time. If dark brown or black, I might be concerned.


Shrek in right. Way WAY back in the early days, motherboard manufacturers made schematics and IPBs (illustrated parts breakdown) available to technicians. These pubs identified each circuit and component with test points and expected test point readings (voltages, resistance, capacitance and often waveforms too). They identified each component with their specs. So, if handy with a meter and/or scope, one could troubleshoot down to component level, and easily find a suitable replacement.

But that practice went away a long time ago. Not only are those publications expensive to produce and maintain, but companies would rather users either return the device to the maker for [expensive to us, profitable for them] repair. Or better yet, we buy new resulting in more profit for them.

Today, even qualified techs can't troubleshoot to component level because they don't have the references to see what is expected at any given test point. Yeah, we can do a visual inspection and look for burnt or broken components. But burnt components can be caused by other failed components in the circuit. And even if we could isolate the fault to a specific component, odds are it won't be labeled in a way we can determine its specs in order to get the proper replacement. :(

Way WAY back in the day when I was in school, we were taught extensive electronics theory and component level troubleshooting. These days, techs are taught to swap out black boxes (the major subassemblies) because the self-diagnostics feature said that box was bad. They have no clue what "bad boys ravished our young girls but violet goes willingly" means (note that's the clean version).

"Twinkle twinkle, little star"
"E is equal to IR"
"Up above the world so high"
"P is equal to EI"
I watch this guys videos a ex expatriate from the uk now living in gran canary islands he talks a lot about Schematics it is all over my head :eek:
that would be to hot over there for me ,it is really sweltering here in the uk:eek:He does this most weeks going to a car boot sale and buying Retro Pc,s.
. :)
 
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Sorry but no way am I going to watch a 44 minute video.

It is 94.5°F (34.7°C) right now in Eastern Nebraska (12:45pm), expected to hit 102°F (38.9°C) by 3pm with a feels like of 107°F (41.7°C).

I used to live in the UK, just north of Newmarket. No AC. So yeah, if you are sitting at 85°F, you are feeling it a bit too.
 
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