Can you buy AMD/Intel shares?

[DanishDevil]

Uhh...if the average return for the average investor was not positive, nobody would be doing it. Investing in stocks is all about randomization to neutralize your risk of investment. Pick a stock, and add other randomly selected stocks. A good number is about 40 stocks in a portfolio.

If you guys want some more secure investments, look into highly-rated bonds. You won't make much on highly rated companies, but the way they work is completely fair. You can gamble on junk bonds, but highly rated company bonds will almost certainly give you a positive ROI.

 

[Fourstaff]

the average return for the average investor is not positive. you've been beating the house, which isn't exceedingly common.

Realize that the market is a poker game.

In the short term, yes. in the long term, no. If you are not comfortable with playing with your money, just invest in one of those tracker funds which track the big index stuff. Even if you have bought DJIA at the height of the 2001 dotcom bubble, or before the 2008 you would have lost less than 10% of your value in current prices. And that is factoring the worst case scenario and not counting interests. I didn't "beat the house", I did what your average pension fund does and got my returns. I wouldn't bet my rent money if that was the case.

Edit: Ok, if you bought the NASDAQ Composite in 2000 or 2001 before the crash you will still be nursing a 50% lost but that is clearly your fault if you bought then because everyone could see it was a bubble from at least a mile away, but refused to "chicken out".

If you guys want some more secure investments, look into highly-rated bonds. You won't make much on highly rated companies, but the way they work is completely fair. You can gamble on junk bonds, but highly rated company bonds will almost certainly give you a positive ROI.

Meanwhile, in Soviet America ... August 2 dundundun

 

[Kreij]

Geez .. investment information on a tech forum. That's where I look first.

 

[Fourstaff]

Geez .. investment information on a tech forum. That's where I look first.

We have a thread in GN, feel free to join

 

[DanishDevil]

Sorry, just finished a class in finance 2 months back

 

[Thatguy]

Uhh...if the average return for the average investor was not positive, nobody would be doing it. Investing in stocks is all about randomization to neutralize your risk of investment. Pick a stock, and add other randomly selected stocks. A good number is about 40 stocks in a portfolio.

If you guys want some more secure investments, look into highly-rated bonds. You won't make much on highly rated companies, but the way they work is completely fair. You can gamble on junk bonds, but highly rated company bonds will almost certainly give you a positive ROI.

Explain casino's and your logic would hold some merrit, for the small investor playing with a few thousand dollars and no way to pressure moves in the market place, its not the right market right now for those who have little to gamble and cannot go long.

If you can catch the turn on the river with the previous hand, you'll be ok but you have to watch the big boys closely to see where they are gonna drive the herd next.

In the short term, yes. in the long term, no. If you are not comfortable with playing with your money, just invest in one of those tracker funds which track the big index stuff. Even if you have bought DJIA at the height of the 2001 dotcom bubble, or before the 2008 you would have lost less than 10% of your value in current prices. And that is factoring the worst case scenario and not counting interests. I didn't "beat the house", I did what your average pension fund does and got my returns. I wouldn't bet my rent money if that was the case.

I turn my money into more money by increasing my productivity and hiring employees and expanding my bussiness. the market is a game of poker, nothing more.

Sorry, just finished a class in finance 2 months back

did they explain to you what gives money value ? if not, then the class was pointless.

 

[twilyth]

According to Mergent, Intel and Nvidia are a buy, and pretty much everything else in the tech sector at the moment is a hold. I did a stock project on Intel, AMD, and Nvidia, and Intel's ratios are far more sane, and they also have a beta of 1 (Intel's stock moves almost exactly as the market average does) so my choice would be Intel at the moment.

I wanted to congratulate you on actually trying to learn about finance as opposed to merely bloviating about it - which seems to be the preference of some people.

 

[LagunaX]

I've bought AMD in the past twice around $6/share.
The first time I had to wait over a year for it to break $8 (33% profit).
The second time was in a couple of months due to the stock market volatility over the past year with housing and banking woes.
I'd wait and see if the price drops towards $6 again after August 2...

 

[btarunr]

Did a little housekeeping. Please stay on track, people.

 

[Fourstaff]

I turn my money into more money by increasing my productivity and hiring employees and expanding my bussiness.

Perhaps you might want to know how to increase your productivity and hire employees when time is right but money is tight.

I don't have a company to speak of, without investments my savings is going to be wiped out by inflation. There is not much choice for a person like me to head to the markets to risk a bit in exchange for my comfortable retirement. Other alternative is for me to beg in the streets when I finish whatever little amount inflation didn't take away.

You should really take a lesson in economics rather than eat whatever crap they shovel into your mouth.

 

[DanishDevil]

Don't worry fourstaff, he's already taking a time out. No need to defend yourself against a trololo.

I'd like to make some investments, but from what I've leaned unless you've got a lot to invest, something like a share certificate at a local credit union might be a better option. There's also bonds and mutual funds (managed by investors who get a % cut of your profits, but also take no losses). Without a well-diversified portfolio (40 randomly selected stocks), it is a gamble.

 

[Fourstaff]

Don't worry fourstaff, he's already taking a time out. No need to defend yourself against a trololo.

I'd like to make some investments, but from what I've leaned unless you've got a lot to invest, something like a share certificate at a local credit union might be a better option. There's also bonds and mutual funds (managed by investors who get a % cut of your profits, but also take no losses). Without a well-diversified portfolio (40 randomly selected stocks), it is a gamble.

We should head over GN to continue our story: http://www.generalnonsense.net/showthread.php?t=5262&page=5

 

[1Kurgan1]

AMD stock is pretty cheap right now. It is a good time to buy. Then again if BD flops, it's a bad time. My AMD stock still hasn't recovered from Phenom.

Did stocks really drop at Phenom? Surprised as the Dual cores were great at release, but for a long time after that they weren't anything amazing.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Did stocks really drop at Phenom? Surprised as the Dual cores were great at release, but for a long time after that they weren't anything amazing.

They dropped like this.

Except I didnt have all the weed, women and money.

 

[LagunaX]

Under $6 with tanking Dow.
If they get close to low $5's tomorrow I might get back in since Bulldozer is next month...