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I am planning a new overhaul on an old computer but need to upgrade a lot of things. Can you upgrade the integrated graphics to a proper graphics card? I know this might seem obvious and I am probably being very stupid but I have no idea.

Motherboard = asus p5vd2-mx

if so, I am on a budget what sort of graphics card should I get? I know I can't expect huge performance but I would like to play all the latest games, not of course on the highest settings.
 

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If it's the same as the one listed on their website, then yes, any PCI Express 16x gfx card will work. It also claims to support Core 2, tho that might be with a newer revision. It would be best to check your board revision and check on their website. You board's revision is probably printed somewhere on the motherboard itself.
 

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Yes,you can upgrade.

As for which one,how much is your budget exactly?
 

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It depends what you mean by budget really... some people think of budget as $150, others $50. For $155 you could get an X1800GTO which isn't a bad card.
 

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Choose wisely, going too far with that board wouldn't make sense. It only supports single channel ram up to 533MHz. That could prove to be a major bottleneck in gaming. Going to far up on the high end of gfx cards would prove to be a waste of money, unless of course you buy the gfx card now, then later buy a new CPU, mobo, & ram to compliment it.
 
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Thanks, and my budget is around £80, sorry for not being specific
 
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Make sure the manufacturer didn't de-solder the PCI-x16 slot. Some companies do this on their low end systems. I know I've seen it a lot on Dells.
 

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Make sure the manufacturer didn't de-solder the PCI-x16 slot. Some companies do this on their low end systems. I know I've seen it a lot on Dells.

That sucks... how does it benefit them to do that?

Anyway, at £80 you're looking at either a 7600GS or an X1650pro. If you could push your budget to £100 you could just about get a 7600GT or an X1800GTO. I would give you links but ebuyer is down... I'm not too sure which of those is best to go for, someone on these forums will.
 

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That sucks... how does it benefit them to do that?

Anyway, at £80 you're looking at either a 7600GS or an X1650pro. If you could push your budget to £100 you could just about get a 7600GT or an X1800GTO. I would give you links but ebuyer is down... I'm not too sure which of those is best to go for, someone on these forums will.

Here is the order from better to worst

1.X1800GTO
2.7600GT
3.7600GS
4.1650pro
 
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You might even be able to run both graphics at the same time (if you have an inclination). Make sure to to look at your manual regarding disabling the on-board video in BIOS.
 
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Make sure the manufacturer didn't de-solder the PCI-x16 slot. Some companies do this on their low end systems. I know I've seen it a lot on Dells.

It was like that on my friends HP Asus OEM board and yea it sucks:banghead:
 

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You might even be able to run both graphics at the same time (if you have an inclination). Make sure to to look at your manual regarding disabling the on-board video in BIOS.

What exactly do you mean by that? Surely Windows won't like it if you have two different graphics adaptors running at once, it would confuse it on games...

You probably need to change a settings like "VGA Boot" from internal to external PCI-E or somehting like that.

Edit: thanks for the performance list Demos_sav, I wasn't too sure about the bottom two
 
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What exactly do you mean by that? Surely Windows won't like it if you have two different graphics adaptors running at once, it would confuse it on games...

Windows supports multiple graphics cards and displays. You can take a board with dual or triple PCIx16 slots and have 6 displays running at once.

Tomshardware did an article where they had 8 displays running at once (Sketchy on the details)

How that works with games is a good question.
 
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