Cancelling your GPU Pre-orders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[purecain]

We've been let down by the suppliers who are not happy with price gouging at the rate they already rob us at. So now they are selling sought after stock to sister companies who profit further, untill availability becomes so high it becomes unviable. Say, when the price they can get for the cards is close to what they sell them for Retail. Until then we are not going to recieve our orders. I'm personally fuming about the situation.
So i'm thinking of cancelling my nvidia pre order and buying an amd card. IF and its a big IF! AMD do not allow distributers to price gouge and use sister companies to price gouge further! If AMD release a card only as powerful as my titan V i would still buy their new card out of principle and to support the underdog and teach Nvidia a lesson. All i can do is plant the seed with this post to try and get the other members of the community to support AMD if they keep a handle on distro unlike Nvidia who has acted like a Corperate monster for years! My relationship with that company is coming to a permanent end!!!! If my card isnt here in 2 weeks i'm going AMD!!!!!

 

[X71200]

Honestly, what is the problem with the Titan V? Should still have a boatload of power. When the top end AMD cards happen, you can be ensured that prices won't be cheap there either. Probably not as gauged up as Nvidia, but it still won't be cheap by any means. The fact that things are becoming more expensive is not just from one end. It has to do with a lot of other stuff as well, obviously. Like I got one of the best cards out there, a Calibre GTX 680 for $500 from Newegg some 5-10 years ago. Nowadays you'll be lucky to get a 3070 for that money. Top end cards cost more, that is a matter of fact and prices have only been going upright.

 

[purecain]

I state that they are not satisfied with price gouging us to their usual standard. By that i mean the cards are more expensive. Its the fact they are moving rarer models to sister companies to sell for higher profits instead of fulfilling preorders. IMO
The Titan V is fine but ive noticed that the newer drivers are not helping my card. Might just be a feeling. I want to see how it runs under a faster cpu...

 

[Deleted member 193596]

why should i cancel my orders?

i already have my 3080 since a month and even a 3070 since today.

they were available for almost 20 hours non stop on amazon in my country and i got my 3070 today with prime shipping for more or less the msrp

 

[Fouquin]

AMD do not allow distributers to price gouge and use sister companies to price gouge further!

So under US trade law they can enforce a "take-it-or-leave-it" resale policy that inhibits overpricing from the retailers directly. It does not stop third-party operators from using existing public marketplaces to price gouge inventory they purchased from retailers specifically for resale (I.E. scalpers). In the EU it's just straight up illegal to attempt to enforce any kind of pricing as per Article 101 TFEU, either by the manufacturer or a supplier.

 

[yotano211]

We've been let down by the suppliers who are not happy with price gouging at the rate they already rob us at. So now they are selling sought after stock to sister companies who profit further, untill availability becomes so high it becomes unviable. Say, when the price they can get for the cards is close to what they sell them for Retail. Until then we are not going to recieve our orders. I'm personally fuming about the situation.
So i'm thinking of cancelling my nvidia pre order and buying an amd card. IF and its a big IF! AMD do not allow distributers to price gouge and use sister companies to price gouge further! If AMD release a card only as powerful as my titan V i would still buy their new card out of principle and to support the underdog and teach Nvidia a lesson. All i can do is plant the seed with this post to try and get the other members of the community to support AMD if they keep a handle on distro unlike Nvidia who has acted like a Corperate monster for years! My relationship with that company is coming to a permanent end!!!! If my card isnt here in 2 weeks i'm going AMD!!!!!

You are not going to teach Nvidia or AMD any lesson. The honest truce is they the dont care about you or what you buy, even AMD is a corporate monster. Go get real and just buy what you feel you like or what ever you can find.
Every graphics card release for the past 20 years have had very limited supply or high demand in the beginning. If you dont like it, go buy a Intel graphic card.

 

[Devon68]

Yeah OP I know what you mean, but if you want new just buy what ever is available. Sooner or later a faster card will be released so people will scalp those. Hell a 3070 should last 2-3 years before needing an upgrade. The only thing I'm mad about nvidia is killing SLI support. I like dual gpu systems.

 

[newtekie1]

Its the fact they are moving rarer models to sister companies to sell for higher profits instead of fulfilling preorders.

Other than MSI, who was caught doi g just that and is facing the backlash from it accordingly, I haven't seen any other evidence of this.

As for nVidia stopping price gouging, I don't think you understand how the market works at all. They can, and do, have some control over direct AIB pricing. But even that is limited, because the AIB might be selling a version of the card that is upgraded from the FE, and therefore going to be more expensive.

They have no control over 3rd party sellers. Just like AMD has no control over 3rd parties. AMD cards have been gouged before too, the mining craze pushed GPU prices on both sides way beyond MSRP.

 

[X71200]

So under US trade law they can enforce a "take-it-or-leave-it" resale policy that inhibits overpricing from the retailers directly. It does not stop third-party operators from using existing public marketplaces to price gauge inventory they purchased from retailers specifically for resale (I.E. scalpers). In the EU it's just straight up illegal to attempt to enforce any kind of pricing as per Article 101 TFEU, either by the manufacturer or a supplier.

I don't think things are that simple. EU might have regulations but when you come to the Middleeastern like the countries around Bulgaria, theft is everywhere. People don't give a flying about what the EU enforces on them down those countries.

Multi GPU, well, it was bound to die anyway.

 

[Toothless]

Sir, with how many GPUs you seem to go through doesn't it seem like a good idea NOT to preorder? Processor launches, graphics cards, games, since when does preordering make sense? Why not wait for reviews to see if you actually need it?

 

[R-T-B]

If I had a preorder I'd be keeping it, but I'm happy with what I have for now.

 

[xrobwx71]

I like dual gpu systems.

Explain, please? I'm simply curious. I'm not trying to be argumentative.

 

[R-T-B]

Explain, please? I'm simply curious. I'm not trying to be argumentative.

He likes SLI type technologies that use more than one GPU together. I mean what's their to explain?

 

[Toothless]

He likes SLI type technologies that use more than one GPU together. I mean what's their to explain?

I like it because it's pretty. Loved my two GTX780's but ended up using one gpu per screen when I had more than one game up.

 

[purecain]

You are not going to teach Nvidia or AMD any lesson. The honest truce is they the dont care about you or what you buy, even AMD is a corporate monster. Go get real and just buy what you feel you like or what ever you can find.
Every graphics card release for the past 20 years have had very limited supply or high demand in the beginning. If you dont like it, go buy a Intel graphic card.

Listen Boy! I'll lay down an ass whipping on Nvidia by going AMD. Thats how i feel. I dont care for your logic in this type of situation. Stop using intel gpu's to cook your meals and start to think right.(this is how you came across, thought id return the favour with a little humour thrown in)

why should i cancel my orders?

i already have my 3080 since a month and even a 3070 since today.

they were available for almost 20 hours non stop on amazon in my country and i got my 3070 today with prime shipping for more or less the msrp

Then this post is not aimed at you. Obviously!!!!!!!!! I'm talking about those of us that bought the Asus 3090 strix OC model.

Other than MSI, who was caught doi g just that and is facing the backlash from it accordingly, I haven't seen any other evidence of this.

As for nVidia stopping price gouging, I don't think you understand how the market works at all. They can, and do, have some control over direct AIB pricing. But even that is limited, because the AIB might be selling a version of the card that is upgraded from the FE, and therefore going to be more expensive.

They have no control over 3rd party sellers. Just like AMD has no control over 3rd parties. AMD cards have been gouged before too, the mining craze pushed GPU prices on both sides way beyond MSRP.

well now, thank the Lord your here to steer me straight buddy!!!! ^^

Sir, with how many GPUs you seem to go through doesn't it seem like a good idea NOT to preorder? Processor launches, graphics cards, games, since when does preordering make sense? Why not wait for reviews to see if you actually need it?

good point, I have my reasons.

Explain, please? I'm simply curious. I'm not trying to be argumentative.

I'll tell you why buddy, because years ago you could buy two cheaper cards, one when they released and the next when you could afford it and sli them to get high end performance. The drivers dont offer this much for games any more unless specifically optimised. 3DMark on the other hand will always get a profile while the technology still exists(in whatever state).

 

[yotano211]

Listen Boy! I'll lay down an ass whipping on Nvidia by going AMD. Thats how i feel. I dont care for your logic in this type of situation. Stop using intel gpu's to cook your meals and start to think right.(this is how you came across, thought id return the favour with a little humour thrown in)


Then this post is not aimed at you. Obviously!!!!!!!!! I'm talking about those of us that bought the Asus 3090 strix OC model.


well now, thank the Lord your here to steer me straight buddy!!!! ^^


good point, I have my reasons.


I'll tell you why buddy, because years ago you could buy two cheaper cards, one when they released and the next when you could afford it and sli them to get high end performance. The drivers dont offer this much for games any more unless specifically optimised. 3DMark on the other hand will always get a profile while the technology still exists(in whatever state).

This post is for everyone since you didnt post what graphics make and model you wanted to target poeple for in the 1st post. It wasnt until your last post that you said anything about what make and model of graphics card.
I love price gouging, when the 3900x came out, I was able to sell a bunch of them for $600 on reddit. I need money to maintain this sailboat.
Price gouging on toilet paper, use a cup and water.

 

[Chomiq]

I'm simply not pre-ordering and waiting for prices to go back to msrp. There's no rush on my end and beside there's nothing suggesting that the same scenario won't play out for AMD.

 

[kruk]

If your old GPU is still functional and performance adequate, why preorder at all? It's not like it will become a paperweight when the new cards get released. With preorders you are giving the companies a interest-free loan and a chance exists you might not get the product for a long time (hardware) or get a beta version of a game (software). You are also encouraging the companies to do premature product launches over and over again ...

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

They have no control over 3rd party sellers. Just like AMD has no control over 3rd parties.

This is what pissed me off about Newegg when AMD Vega came out, day 1 they were $200+ over MSRP, and neweggs 3rd party vendors were selling vega cards for over $1100. (That prompted me to buy a card elsewhere cheaper.)

 

[Devon68]

Explain, please? I'm simply curious. I'm not trying to be argumentative.

Just as others have said I like the way it looks. Especially the GTX 1080/1080Ti founders editions in sli with the green Geforce logos on the side's.

 

[8BitZ80]

You brought this misfortune upon yourself as an early adopter. Eat a snickers.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

Bulgaria

In my country, the latest generation of hardware has prices, as if the owners of stores that sell hardware are scalpers

 

[lexluthermiester]

If my card isnt here in 2 weeks i'm going AMD!!!!!

Hate to rain on your parade, but you're going to face the exact same problem with Radeon cards. Good luck with that.

 

[Splinterdog]

You could buy a three bedroom house for the price of top-end GPUs where I live, probably with a garage thrown in.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Eh it's shit mate no doubt but that's life, given time it will sort itself out and the card you want will be in stock.
Until then stay strong don't let new tech envy get to you and use savlon if the itch gets so bad your tearing flesh up , I'm on bandage's glazed in bovril, hopefully we will get a new card before Christmas.