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Don't forget the 3 gb vram that 7950 has. $189.00 after MIR + 3 games that you can sell for even for lower price is unbeatable. Lastly, eventually most will upgrade to the next res which is the 1440p, guess what 7950 with 3 gb vram is ready for it.

PowerColor AX7950 3GBD5-2DHV5E Radeon HD 7950 3GB ...
Situations reversed in your side of the pond, where 7950 is cheaper than 660Ti. Not surprised actually, $20 can easily swing the advantage over to the other side.

I think we can conclude that this will be the end of our civilised discussion, since OP has a 760 coming already :toast:
 
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That's what I was saying in my first post in this thread
Yup, the next op that will run into next similar gpu question can reference this thread. :D
 

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Hey guys, I haven't ordered it yet!

I had edited to 'made up my mind', from the graphs I looked at during 3-4am and head to bed after. I woke up this morning and read everything, I really like the MSI GTX 760 TwinFrozr Gaming 2 GB, but I want to wait a little, maybe until it hits a sale point.

I never bought a nVidia card before, since AMD cards were always priced lower with equal performance, I was pretty excited about it lol.

Someone actually found a very, very cheap 7950 for people that look for performance per dollar,($189.90 after $30.00 rebate) like myself. PowerColor AX7950 3GBD5-2DHV5E Radeon HD 7950 3GB ...

I think both GTX760/HD 7950 are very good cards, but do 2GB vs 3GB (Non-OC) really matter in terms of FPS at 1980x1080 on single 25" monitor?:eek:
 
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Hey guys, I haven't ordered it yet!

I had edited to 'made up my mind', from the graphs I looked at during 3-4am and head to bed after. I woke up this morning and read everything, I really like the MSI GTX 760 TwinFrozr Gaming 2 GB, but I want to wait a little, maybe until it hits a sale point.

I never bought a nVidia card before, since AMD cards were always priced lower with equal performance, I was pretty excited about it lol.

Someone actually found a very, very cheap 7950 for people that look for performance per dollar,($189.90 after $30.00 rebate) like myself. PowerColor AX7950 3GBD5-2DHV5E Radeon HD 7950 3GB ...

I think both GTX760/HD 7950 are very good cards, but do 2GB vs 3GB (Non-OC) really matter in terms of FPS at 1980x1080 on single 25" monitor?:eek:


did our flame war make for good reading?! LOL enjoy the card... an upgrade is always an upgrade!
 
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yes it does if you play heavy modded games like skyrim or crysis 2.
 

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Lol yeah it was fun to read, you guys are the best. Really helped me out!
 

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Hey guys, I haven't ordered it yet!

I had edited to 'made up my mind', from the graphs I looked at during 3-4am and head to bed after. I woke up this morning and read everything, I really like the MSI GTX 760 TwinFrozr Gaming 2 GB, but I want to wait a little, maybe until it hits a sale point.

I never bought a nVidia card before, since AMD cards were always priced lower with equal performance, I was pretty excited about it lol.

Someone actually found a very, very cheap 7950 for people that look for performance per dollar,($189.90 after $30.00 rebate) like myself. PowerColor AX7950 3GBD5-2DHV5E Radeon HD 7950 3GB ...

I think both GTX760/HD 7950 are very good cards, but do 2GB vs 3GB (Non-OC) really matter in terms of FPS at 1980x1080 on single 25" monitor?:eek:
at 1080p, 2Gb makes no difference. at 1440p, 3gb is quite good. However, if you are going 1440p you would want a more powerful graphics card anyway, making that argument moot. So stick with the $189 7950, you will not be disappointed :toast:
 
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The 760 is the fastest and best bang for buck of those in the first price scenarios, but the 7950 at $190 is best deal overall. Nvidia leads in that group if they're in a close price range though.

Just hope that the 7950 OCs well. Well you buy a model that late in the cycle often they don't however.
 
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Well considering it's $80 less expensive, the 7950 is definently the best bang for your buck here. The GTX 760 is a great card, but that 8% more performance for $80 more. At 1080p, The 7950 will do what you want of it.
 
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Yea you're right 760 is basically a 7970 in terms of performance :roll:

You also deliberately ignore the fact that it has boost 2.0 giving it an advantage of 150-250 MHz on core.
First you say the 7950 is better then the GTX670, then you say that the 7970 and GTX760 are the same, considering that the GTX670 is slightly faster then the GTX760 wouldn't it make it as fast as the 7970, thus beating the 7950 ??, I can tell by your response you are a AMD fan boy, but please stop giving out the wrong advice, the object here is to give the person the best unbiased answer, giving him the advice that the 7950 is better then the 670 is only making yourself look stupid and making the guy buy a card that's old and out-dated.

BTW, you only have to look at the pricing for the GT670 and GTX760 to know that the 670 is better, do you really think they are going to lose money and make their new better card cheaper ???, I think not
 
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First you say the 7950 is better then the GTX670, then you say that the 7970 and GTX760 are the same, considering that the GTX670 is slightly faster then the GTX760 wouldn't it make it as fast as the 7970, thus beating the 7950 ??, I can tell by your response you are a AMD fan boy, but please stop giving out the wrong advice, the object here is to give the person the best unbiased answer, giving him the advice that the 7950 is better then the 670 is only making yourself look stupid and making the guy buy a card that's old and out-dated.

BTW, you only have to look at the pricing for the GT670 and GTX760 to know that the 670 is better, do you really think they are going to lose money and make their new better card cheaper ???, I think not
At 1080p a 7950 and 670 is about the same, when you crank up the resolution and fill up the RAM (This happens when you play demanding games, just saying because i honestly dont think you know this) the 7950 will win by a long shot. And the 7950 gains more from OCing because of higher IPC. Stop talking about something you know nothing about.

Ugh... Noobs.

And btw. I was sarcastic when i said the 760 is the same as a 7970. If you look at those benches and draw the conclusion that the 760 ~ 7970 i advice you to go buy an xbox 360.
 

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At 1080p a 7950 and 670 is about the same, when you crank up the resolution and fill up the RAM (This happens when you play demanding games, just saying because i honestly dont think you know this) the 7950 will win by a long shot. And the 7950 gains more from OCing because of higher IPC. Stop talking about something you know nothing about.

Ugh... Noobs.

And btw. I was sarcastic when i said the 760 is the same as a 7970. If you look at those benches and draw the conclusion that the 760 ~ 7970 i advice you to go buy an xbox 360.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_670/

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Oh and btw, how old are those benchmarks? The 670s and 680s where better than the 79xx due to the bad drivers AMD had, find recent benchmarks.
 

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Oh and btw, how old are those benchmarks? The 670s and 680s where better than the 79xx due to the bad drivers AMD had, find recent benchmarks.
Dont double post



Newest I can find, 670 is still better than 7970 and 680 is still better than 7970 GHZ. All of the 4 can be clocked higher for much more performance, regularly hitting 10%+ performance gain on good boards. AMD gets better scores at 2560x1600, but that is not the resolution OP plays at.
 
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So what your saying is the new AMD Drivers makes the 7950 perform like a 7970 ?, because that's about where the GTX670 sits.

Either way you look at it the GTX670 is better, especially for the OP, which is the whole reason for this.
 

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Yep, you're doing the same thing as that other guy.

2 words: NVIDIA BOOST.

stock 7950 @ 850 vs 670 at 1000 on core. And if you dont believe me, check the specs on the review where you got the benchmarks.
Nvidia BOOST, the feauture that is activated per default and therefor is a part of the card that should be judged as part of a stock card? If you buy a stock 670 it will be faster than a stock 7950. It's as simple as that.

With that said, it comes down to the price. Get a wicked discount on a 7950? Get it by all means. Are you a hardcore AMD fanboy? Get the 7950 and be quiet about it. If they are priced the same and you have no plans on overclocking? Get the 670.
 

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Yea as if AMDs cards cant be oced. Comparing an oced card to a stock one isnt fair.

And seriously, any GK104 - GK106 owners show me your 3dmark/Valley/heaven. Ill beat them. Show me that your GK104/6 are so good.
God you just love your AMD card high horse. Its about time you get off that thing and quit being an asshat.

You have come over here from OCN blabbering your mouth about how awesome your 7970/AMD Card is, and how crappy NVidia cards, when most professional benchmarks show completely different information than what you tend to lead on.

Yeah sure AMD cards can benefit a bit more from overclocking (Also depends on if the card you get is even a good clocker), but not everyone here at TPU are interested in overclocking.

Some just want performance out of the box, and NVidia has that. Their boost tech allows the card to technically "overclock" itself under the right temperature conditions, etc.

EDIT: and like Frick says, its a feature of the card, so regardless it should be judged as stock. Not until the users starts pushing it beyond out of box boosting limits, is it overclocked.

Nvidia BOOST, the feauture that is activated per default and therefor is a part of the card that should be judged as part of a stock card? If you buy a stock 670 it will be faster than a stock 7950. It's as simple as that.

With that said, it comes down to the price. Get a wicked discount on a 7950? Get it by all means. Are you a hardcore AMD fanboy? Get the 7950 and be quiet about it. If they are priced the same and you have no plans on overclocking? Get the 670.
^^This exactly.
 

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Yea as if AMDs cards cant be oced. Comparing an oced card to a stock one isnt fair.

And seriously, any GK104 - GK106 owners show me your 3dmark/Valley/heaven. Ill beat them. Show me that your GK104/6 are so good.
Never said AMD's cards cannot be overclocked. One comes with stock overclocking, the other comes with manual overclocking. If you are not willing/not able/not ready to do manual overclocking we have to compare the base performances, in which case Nvidia edges AMD. Otherwise, AMD takes the performance lead. In both cases you will not be able to tell the difference outside benchmarks, but the hit to the wallet is much more severe depending on the price fluctuations.

I endorse the most bang for buck card (before overclocking), in this case a 7950. For people in UK, my card of choice will be the 660Ti regularly getting sold for about £130-140 now, compared to the £170+ 7950. For overclockers, as long as the 7950 is less than 10% more expensive than the 670 it is the better buy.
 
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