Cant seem to figure out why my game is stuttering

[BaiterSkater]

Well it's off to YouTube for you!

Find a video of someone removing the cooler from the same model graphics card as yours.

You still have not properly filled out your system specs; there is no specific mention of your graphics card manufacturer and model. Aftermarket graphics card manufacturers almost always make several product lines (for example, Asus has Phoenix, Dual, KO, TUF Gaming, ROG Strix) that might have the same GPU but will have different PCB form factors and cooler designs.

That means don't watch a video of someone removing the cooler from a Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 if you have an ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 580. The cooler designs will be different, meaning the screws will be in different places and possibly other components like fan cables, etc. If you have an ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 580, watch a video of someone removing the cooler from an ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 580. Don't watch a video of a guy doing it on an MSI RX 580, or a Sapphire RX 550, or an ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 5700 XT.

You will have to be very meticulous about tracking screws.

Also, most graphics card manufacturers use thermal pads on key components that can't have thermal paste applied to them. Ideally you would have some new thermal pads in different thicknesses on hand to replace any original thermal pads that have deteriorated.

When you're replaced all of the thermal interfaces, you'll need to reassemble your card, meaning reversing all of the steps you watched in the video.

Without a doubt most people who post such videos on YouTube have years (sometimes decades) of experience.

Watch the video first several times and decide wisely whether or not you have the technical ability to follow the procedure. If you bake cookies and bungle it, you can just buy new ingredients and start a new batch. With today's semiconductor shortage situation, it is unlikely you will buy more GPUs until you figure out how to do this.

Best of luck.

Is there a way to figure out what kind of gpu i have ?

Is there a way to figure out what kind of gpu i have ?

What kind of rx 580?

 

[Mussels]

I got thermal paste

What type?
I mean almost any will work, but theres a lot of variety

Take the GPU out and read the labels on it

A lot of RX 580's have literally 4 main screws in the center back and the heatsink pops off, but some have more than need to be removed


Almost all of them have extra parts that you DONT need to unscrew, so not every screw needs removing - just the main heatsink off the GPU

 

[cvaldes]

Is there a way to figure out what kind of gpu i have ?

Your reading comprehension needs work.

This was covered back on page 1, post #24.

 

[BaiterSkater]

Your reading comprehension needs work.

This was covered back on page 1, post #24.

I found out. I didnt know you could use gpuz to search it up. So i use the thermal paste for my cpu. I can just use that for it ??

 

[Mussels]

Yes, the same thermal paste is used for CPU's and GPU's. Be nice to know what type you have, your knowledge is erratic so i dont know if you're fine with the application or if you'll squirt the whole tube on there.

Heres an XFX RX470
The rest of the info tells us what exact model and variant it is

This is the stupidly simple heatsink it has: the four in the middle that make a square let the heatsink pop off for new thermal paste, the smaller two are for the GPU's VRM heatsink (and should be left alone)
(and the ones with no screw head visible, are on the other side for removing the black cover)

 

[cvaldes]

I found out. I didnt know you could use gpuz to search it up.

The graphics card model number would also show up on the original retail box. It would look very similar to the sticker on the card pictured directly above.

It's actually worth taking a photo of the board and retail box when you first get it. That way if you tossed the box you don't have to crack open the case and remove the graphics card to see what the serial number is.

If you purchased the graphics card online from a reputable retailer, quite likely at least the model number would be somewhere on the archived invoice. I know some mom-and-pop shops will include the serial number on the printed invoice to prevent people from returning a different part.

So yeah, there are a multitude of ways to figure out what model number your card is.

This isn't specific to graphics cards. Your motherboard has a serial number, your m.2 SSD has one, CPU, memory sticks, et cetera ad nauseam.

 

[BaiterSkater]

Okay so this is what the thermal pads loom like

 

[Mussels]

Oh jesus, that thermal pad needs to be straightened out for sure - every memory chip must have thermal pad contact to the heatsink

And the thermal paste looks dried out, fairly typical - clean it off both ends (carefully! paper towel is fine, but be gentle) and put a small amount of the fresh paste on

 

[BaiterSkater]

This was after i replaced all the thermal pads with thermal paste. Games were still stuttering as usual. Not sure what it could be at this point.

These were after running heaven benchmark. The benchmark was stuttering like crazy this time. The frame wouls stop and then leave off where it was during the benchmark. I don't understand what it's doing.

 

[Tatty_Two]

You may need pads not paste, the whole point of a pad is so that it can make contact with the heatsink, by putting paste it may be that there is no contact and therefore nowhere for the heat to dissipate, although I have never owned a 580 so perhaps it won't be a problem.

 

[HD64G]

I suspect the Precision Boost is off since the CPU isn't boosting over its base clock at all.

 

[BaiterSkater]

I suspect the Precision Boost is off since the CPU isn't boosting over its base clock at all.

Well should i oc??

 

[Salvo39]

How is that motherboard installed in the case??????

My man asking the real questions here.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Do you have AMD enhanced sync enabled?
Do you have AMD Anti-Lag on?
Do you have your fans setup with intake and exhaust?
Is this in every game?
Do you have a dog?
If so is he a good boy?

 

[BaiterSkater]

Do you have AMD enhanced sync enabled?
Do you have AMD Anti-Lag on?
Do you have your fans setup with intake and exhaust?
Is this in every game?
Do you have a dog?
If so is he a good boy?

No, no, idk, yes, yes, and yes

 

[cvaldes]

You may need pads not paste, the whole point of a pad is so that it can make contact with the heatsink, by putting paste it may be that there is no contact and therefore nowhere for the heat to dissipate, although I have never owned a 580 so perhaps it won't be a problem.

This makes zero sense.

LOOK at the OP's board (post #157). The thermal paste is on both the GPU and the heatsink. It rolled off the AIB partner's manufacturing line that way. It was designed to have thermal paste applied to the GPU.

The thermal pads that are there were also intended to be used (VRAM chips mostly).

Are you implying that your mechanical engineering acumen is better than AMD's hardware engineering staff?

For what it's worth, I own a Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580. I deshrouded it six months ago and it too had thermal paste on the GPU. I chose to replace it with new thermal paste and it works fine. I must have gotten lucky, eh?

 

[Deleted member 202104]

This makes zero sense.

LOOK at the OP's board (post #157). The thermal paste is on both the GPU and the heatsink. It rolled off the AIB partner's manufacturing line that way. It was designed to have thermal paste applied to the GPU.

The thermal pads that are there were also intended to be used (VRAM chips mostly).

Are you implying that your mechanical engineering acumen is better than AMD's hardware engineering staff?

For what it's worth, I own a Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580. I deshrouded it six months ago and it too had thermal paste on the GPU. I chose to replace it with new thermal paste and it works fine. I must have gotten lucky, eh?

You may have missed where the OP stated they replaced the existing pads with paste.

This was after i replaced all the thermal pads with thermal paste. Games were still stuttering as usual. Not sure what it could be at this point.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

No, no, idk, yes, yes, and yes

Try turning on Anti-Lag it can help with input lag.
Enhanced sync is mostly crap and can cause stuttering..not always but it happens.
If your case isn't being properly exhausted it could cause your system to throttle down when hit with a heavy load.

I'd try a steady clock setting...maybe 3.8ghz and AMD Anti-Lag enabled.
Efficiency goes a long way with Ryzen... basically you want your voltages to be just high enough to work properly.
And definitely make sure your case is properly ventilated.

 

[cvaldes]

You may have missed where the OP stated they replaced the existing pads with paste.

I totally missed that.

Wow.

Now I will direct the following question to the OP:

Do you believe you have the mechanical engineering knowledge to change the thermal pads to paste, pads that were deliberately installed by the AIB partner's manufacturing line personnel? Thermal pads which were likely under the guidelines set forth by AMD's hardware engineering staff?

I feel like this discussion has been an utter waste of my time. I hereby bow out of further participation in this thread.

Best of luck, folks.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

Pads for sure...paste isn't going to stay put with that kind of gap.

It definitely sounds like an overheating issue.
Get pads, make sure BIOS is up to date, check fan placement and direction and turn on Anti-Lag.

You had this issue prior to using paste so using paste didn't cause the issue it just exacerbated the issue imo.

 

[HD64G]

Well should i oc??

I didn't mean the PBO that means oc. I mean the basic boost function of the CPU that might have been turned off and that hampers performance seriously.

 

[Mussels]

"This was after i replaced all the thermal pads with thermal paste. Games were still stuttering as usual. Not sure what it could be at this point."


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
DO. NOT. DO. THAT.
Thermal pads CAN NOT be replaced with thermal paste, at no point were you told to do that!!!


Thermal pads are thick, thermal paste is not. Everywhere you did that to is no longer cooled. Clean all that paste off, and if you threw out those thermal pads do not use the GPU until they're replaced.

Well should i oc??

Holy fuck no, after 5 pages of having to fix your CPU from drawing too much power, NO.

Try turning on Anti-Lag it can help with input lag.
Enhanced sync is mostly crap and can cause stuttering..not always but it happens.
If your case isn't being properly exhausted it could cause your system to throttle down when hit with a heavy load.

I'd try a steady clock setting...maybe 3.8ghz and AMD Anti-Lag enabled.
Efficiency goes a long way with Ryzen... basically you want your voltages to be just high enough to work properly.
And definitely make sure your case is properly ventilated.

dude. NO. We spent all this time fixing his overheating VRMs, try reading a read before offering advice counter to everything so far.


Baiter: take your PC to a shop. This kind of work is beyond you and you will destroy your PC since you can not, and will not follow any instructions.