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Chernobyl “waking up again”

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Uh oh, that can't be good.
Do what ya do when camping, Pee on it to put it out.
 
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Break out the shrimp! :p

As if enough people had already died from the previous stupidity there, if they dont act soon enough, more will.
 
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Break out the shrimp! :p

As if enough people had already died from the previous stupidity there, if they dont act soon enough, more will.
Says, the Gnome killer. :laugh: :toast:
 
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I remember it well. Seeing the disaster back in 86 on the news in real time sent shivers down my spine.
These things make me feel old, it doesn't seem that long ago.
 
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These things make me feel old, it doesn't seem that long ago.
it was yesterday, in the navy, that we suddenly "casually reminded" what do with nuclear fallout.

So lets talk about old there gramps. My walker has racing wheels! :p :D :slap:
 
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The cortex tricking us into believing it's in control, when in fact we are still being lead by the limbic system. I agree with mr free above. Perhaps it is hubris to think we can harness the power of nature in such a way.

But also, not sure whose genius idea it was to build the Japan one in a fault zone... and in a country that historically has tsunamis often... like seriously, build it somewhere else... LOL human hubris ~
 
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Did the French ever finish the new Sarcophagus for the NPP?

I think the main fear everyone had many years ago was burn in leaking into the underground water stream causing another disaster.
 

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Uh oh, that can't be good.
Do what ya do when camping, Pee on it to put it out.
I've had an extra beer. Hang on, I'm coming to the rescue! :laugh:
 
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Did the French ever finish the new Sarcophagus for the NPP?

I think the main fear everyone had many years ago was burn in leaking into the underground water stream causing another disaster.
Plenty of documetaries are out there. I watched one as they rolled the new canopy into place a few years ago. Inside it looks creepy as hell.
The folk working on the site would stand behind xxx thick concrete walls as they operated machinery. Nice work if you want the money, and a dose of radiation.
 
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Plenty of documetaries are out there. I watched one as they rolled the new canopy into place a few years ago. Inside the place looks creepy as hell.
The folk working on the site would stand behind xxx thick concrete walls as they operated machinery. Nice work if you want the money, and a dose of radiation.

I am aware of most of the details as I had family in the area at the times (not in the Pripyat but closer to the Belarus/Ukraine SSR border). Of course part of the family that were considered "our enemies" during the cold war (as I am in the west) so communication was rather limited besides letters of course.

But I am not up to date on the newest events. Last I heard the French were looking to update the sarcophagus but they had a lot of hurdles to deal with local authorities. Also, when they came to the conclusion that the underground stream is at risk, they (various countries) were coming up with potential solutions to deal with that. But beyond that I am not sure.

I just like to read the raw information and that's it. If you got specific links, please provide as to what their plans are to mitigate the issue.
 
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I am aware of most of the details as I had family in the area at the times (not in the Pripyat but closer to the Belarus/Ukraine SSR border). Of course part of the family that were considered "our enemies" during the cold war (as I am in the west) so communication was rather limited besides letters of course.

But I am not up to date on the newest events. Last I heard the French were looking to update the sarcophagus but they had a lot of hurdles to deal with local authorities. Also, when they came to the conclusion that the underground stream is at risk, they (various countries) were coming up with potential solutions to deal with that. But beyond that I am not sure.

I just like to read the raw information and that's it.
I'm not really up to date myself. But I am aware of The Elephant’s Foot and the battle to deal with it, plus all the other stuff about the impact the disaster still has.
Same here. I just like to read the raw info, but I'll watch something televised if I find it interesting enough.
 

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Should have included this freaky pic from the article that originally caught my eye
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Should have included this freaky pic from the article that originally caught my eye
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They will now have to dig underneath below the elephants foot in order to shield the stream.

Kinda neat looking really. Not so much creepy.

I always found the Red Forest to be far more creepy. But also oddly beautiful.
 
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It's was terrible and still is.

Watch that mini series man. Chernobyl. It also says a lot about our current information age, about uncovering truth amidst a sea of misleading information and about systems that work to remove truth altogether. I'll never forget it, anyway, and the whole thing is fantastic and horrible to watch all at the same time. Every time you get to realize 'this shit was actually real'. And the system that created it still exists, and might have just recently shown its best traits again with how it treated Navalny etc. And at the same time, we're also dealing with systems that constantly mislead and misdirect from truths.

History indeed does repeat.

Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid.

Apply this one to our current day and age, polarisation and the inability to say something about things because 'you're not supposed to' or 'its not so nice' or 'its difficult':

When the truth offends, we lie and lie until we can no longer remember it is even there, but it is still there.
 
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Some years ago, I was living for a short time in Belgium, and was at a private woodyard, buying some materials to build a strong garage racking system. There was a fantastic story: a kindergarten had been renovated, and an expensive beautiful wooden floor and framing was installed. Before opening the kindergarten, the local city did a technical health inspection to make sure there were no naughty volatile compound paints or wood preservers that would be considered unhealthy for the children. They didnt find any problem with the finishing work. But, by "chance" or by "tipoff" they did a radiation test. The wood was loaded with radioactivity. It was more than 25 years after Chernobyl, and it must have been that some forests in Central/Eastern Europe had been opened up for harvesting, and this wood had made its way into the lumber supply chain.

Kindergarten was condemned and razed.

My view was different... the wood would be ideal... probably would never rot... last forever... lol. Just perhaps not to be used near children.

Interesting problem... tens of thousands of hectares of forests... should we use the wood for construction e.g. roofs, with sufficient distance to people? Barns with livestock? Chipboard for flatpack furniture? Send to china to make cardboard and paper which is then sent back in various formats so we can wipe our bums? Should we burn it in log fires and release into the atmosphere? It's a real problem... these forests are ready to harvest.
 
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Interesting problem... tens of thousands of hectares of forests... should we use the wood for construction e.g. roofs, with sufficient distance to people? Barns with livestock? Chipboard for flatpack furniture? Send to china to make cardboard and paper which is then sent back in various formats so we can wipe our bums? Should we burn it in log fires and release into the atmosphere? It's a real problem... these forests are ready to harvest.
Perfect co2 storage and nature reserve I say.
 
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