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China Pulls Ahead of U.S. in Latest TOP500 List

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Most of it is made in Taiwan anyways :p

And I can't tell if that's actually a win for China or the US... and neither do they probably.
 
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Thanks interesting read.
 
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It doesn't matter how big it is, it matters what you do with it :D

On a more serious note, China also has the largest radiotelescope in the world, but apparently of the handful of people capable of running it, no one is willing to move to China to do it.
Still, it's interesting to see where things are headed.
 
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It doesn't matter how big it is, it matters what you do with it :D

On a more serious note, China also has the largest radiotelescope in the world, but apparently of the handful of people capable of running it, no one is willing to move to China to do it.
Still, it's interesting to see where things are headed.
Considering the average mentality there, I wonder how well they take care of these particular things. Because they let a lot of their buildings go to waste (or rather, they just tear them down and build new ones). Even normal people don't even take care of little things, like their cars and bikes. I'm sure it's all better in computers and sciences, but I wonder just how much.
 
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Considering the average mentality there, I wonder how well they take care of these particular things. Because they let a lot of their buildings go to waste (or rather, they just tear them down and build new ones). Even normal people don't even take care of little things, like their cars and bikes. I'm sure it's all better in computers and sciences, but I wonder just how much.
Who cares? It's their stuff. Though if we're talking about building and demolishing, that can't be good for their health.
But yes, it is a different world. I haven't seen/experienced it myself, but I know people that have.
 

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Top500 isn't really a good metric going forward anymore. USA has a lot of quantum and neural network processors that can solve a lot more complex problems than super computer clusters can but they suck at brute force FLOPS.
 
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I have read some interviews a long time ago, that in order for an A.I. to become self aware, an equivalent performance of 100 Zetta flops is needed, so we are still looong way until there. Probably 100 more years? ;)
 
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USA has a lot of quantum and neural network processors that can solve a lot more complex problems than super computer clusters can but they suck at brute force FLOPS.
Last time I checked quantum processors were still nowhere near as fast or robust as traditional computing but maybe I am wrong. In addition to that their practicality is still under a big question mark.

I have read some interviews a long time ago, that in order for an A.I. to become self aware
No one has a damn clue how to even quantify self awareness/consciousnesses , let alone make a prediction on how much computing power it would take. Hell , it might be that it's something completely independent from that.
 
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I have read some interviews a long time ago, that in order for an A.I. to become self aware, an equivalent performance of 100 Zetta flops is needed, so we are still looong way until there. Probably 100 more years? ;)
Neah, that's not how it works. You only need enough to make an AI that can make a better version of itself. Then it can take it from there ;)
It also matters a lot how you define AI. Will a simple neural network fit the description? Something that passes the Turing test? Does it need to know everything from the start? Does it need to actively learn?
 

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Last time I checked quantum processors were still nowhere near as fast or robust as traditional computing but maybe I am wrong. In addition to that their practicality is still under a question mark.
They're far better for solving specific types of problems.

Does it need to actively learn?
This. And Google already made one.
 
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They're far better for solving specific types of problems.
Exactly my point , limited robustness. I have no doubt they will find their usefulness in some areas but as to surpass or at the very least become comparable in all aspects to traditional computing , I have my doubts.
 

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These TOP500 supercomputer clusters would take years to solve problems the quantum processors can solve in hours. FLOPS are floating-point calculations. Quantum are deep-branching logic. The former is good for physics calculations, the latter is good for finding viable routes through complex datasets.
 
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Who cares? It's their stuff. Though if we're talking about building and demolishing, that can't be good for their health.
But yes, it is a different world. I haven't seen/experienced it myself, but I know people that have.
It's not that I care. I'm just making an observation. I wonder if the tech world over there fares any better. I honestly don't know.