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Complete Hardware Specs Sheet of Xbox Series X Revealed

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10Gb of fast RAM, 6Gb of slow RAM...

The Nvidia 970 designers are smiling.
PlayStation 4 had a similar set up where CPU got significantly less bandwidth from the GDDR chips than the GPU did.

5700 XT = 9.754 TFLOPS

This chip is 12 TFLOP...


This thing is more than double the Xbox One X.


Also, 8K support was baked into Navi. It's likely there for 8K web streams or maybe BluRays with a firmware update. Maybe ATSC 3.0 could handle it someday too. Point is, the GPU is ready and able to decode it.



Hype rising for RDNA2. If they can manage this kind of performance with semi-custom then imagine what it can do on an AIB. I'm glad I waited to upgrade.
 

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to put it extremely simple
Memory Config:
12288 MB + 4096 MB
10240 MB @ 560GB/s, 6144 MB @ 336GB/s
320 Bit / 192 Bit
 
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Ohhhhh, I think I see it: the 192-bit chips share bandwidth with the CPU where the 128-bit chips are dedicated.

GPU is effectively 10 GiB at 128-bit and CPU is effectively 6 GiB at 64-bit.
 
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Meh, if I ever to game on consoles it would be playstation. Xbox just does not have enough exclusive good titles.
 

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Ohhhhh, I think I see it: the 192-bit chips share bandwidth with the CPU where the 128-bit chips are dedicated.

GPU is effectively 10 GiB at 128-bit and CPU is effectively 6 GiB at 64-bit.
i fixed my message it was incorrect, 2 seperate memory configs
12288 MB + 4096 MB
10240 MB @ 560GB/s, 6144 MB @ 336GB/s
320 Bit / 192 Bit
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Have to say this thing looks really good. I'll be buying both new consoles regardless, but hot damn, this is (so far) the one that truly tickles my fancy. Love the design too.
 
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PlayStation 4 had a similar set up where CPU got significantly less bandwidth from the GDDR chips than the GPU did.

5700 XT = 9.754 TFLOPS

This chip is 12 TFLOP...


This thing is more than double the Xbox One X.


Also, 8K support was baked into Navi. It's likely there for 8K web streams or maybe BluRays with a firmware update. Maybe ATSC 3.0 could handle it someday too. Point is, the GPU is ready and able to decode it.



Hype rising for RDNA2. If they can manage this kind of performance with semi-custom then imagine what it can do on an AIB. I'm glad I waited to upgrade.
1825 Mhz with 52 CU yields about 12.147 TFLOPS FP32. According to DF, RT has ~13 TFLOPS equlavent.

XSX GPU has about 25 TF.
 

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i fixed my message it was incorrect, 2 seperate memory configs
12288 MB + 4096 MB
10240 MB @ 560GB/s, 6144 MB @ 336GB/s
320 Bit / 192 BitView attachment 148296
So apparently the slower bus is the one that's tied to the CPU and the GPU is aware of it so it can start pulling from that pool too if necessary.
 
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560GBs 10GB gpu optimal memory, only problem is the cpu will eat alot of that 10GB-5,5=4,5GB, 560-336=224, so the GPU is left with 4,5GB at 224GBs.
The way I understood it, the fastest memory is reserved only for the GPU in the 10GB amount. The remaining (slower) 6GB is split between OS and CPU (and maybe GPU if needs more). Even if the CPU eats into GPU's mem pool, it wont be by the amount you mentioned.
I mean, upcoming titles in 4K with RT will definitely not run with 4.5GB of vram
 
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Meh, if I ever to game on consoles it would be playstation. Xbox just does not have enough exclusive good titles.
I guess it depends what kind of games you play.
There are maybe 3 games on this list that I'd want to play at all: Spider Man, Gran Turismo and God of War (maybe).
As for Xbox exclusives: I'd only miss Forza Horizon (which is my most played console game so far).

Vast majority of popular games are available on both platforms. I doubt exclusives are a serious factor for many.

For me Xbox wins because of the ecosystem.
Gaming-wise: Game Pass and Live are both good, Play Anywhere is nice as well and controller support in Windows is excellent. Frankly, I also prefer the controller itself.
But there's much more to it. I love that there's an app for OneDrive (and Dropbox as well). I occasionally use Skype too.
There's also very good integration with Assistants (not just Cortana) and automation frameworks (I use IFTTT extensively).
And there's a chance they'll go further with this philosophy.
If they do - I may even buy this stupid next-gen flowerpot.

PlayStation is very focused on gaming, which may be attractive for some, but for me it just doesn't beat the flexibility of Xbox.
 
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$500 xbox console with PS5 coming in at $450+, it will take two years before there is any significant market penetration

Most buyers don't look at it as a cheaper alternative to a gaming desktop, because they don't consider a gaming desktop at all. :)
There's no "value". There's no "how many fps you can get for your money" philosophy.
It's a console - a box that makes gaming possible. Almost like a household appliance. But it suddenly got more expensive.

I bet you wouldn't be happy if washing machines got 20% more expensive with next generation - even if I tried to convince you they're still way more efficient than hand washing.

Also, I can't believe MS would accept the risk of selling this for breakeven price. People willing to pay more for the top product, including the group that games in 4K on PCs, will accept $600+. It's still cheap compared to their flagship smartphones.
Bulk of clients will get the new budget model or hold on to / buy an Xbox One X - there's a big chance it will support future games.
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1825 Mhz with 52 CU yields about 12.147 TFLOPS FP32. According to DF, RT has ~13 TFLOPS equlavent.

XSX GPU has about 25 TF.
That's a misunderstanding. It has the equivalent of 25TF if the RTRT was done purely in shaders. The RTRT hardware can't do regular shader workloads, and thus does not translate back into FP32 TFLOPS.

Most buyers don't look at it as a cheaper alternative to a gaming desktop, because they don't consider a gaming desktop at all. :)
There's no "value". There's no "how many fps you can get for your money" philosophy.
It's a console - a box that makes gaming possible. Almost like a household appliance. But it suddenly got more expensive.

I bet you wouldn't be happy if washing machines got 20% more expensive with next generation - even if I tried to convince you they're still way more efficient than hand washing.
Agreed. Though the difference between $400 and $500 isn't massive, it's still there, and $500 has scared people off before - hello PS3 and Xbox One! - though those were both inferior in performance as well, making it a double whammy of inferiority that this very likely won't be.

Also, I can't believe MS would accept the risk of selling this for breakeven price. People willing to pay more for the top product, including the group that games in 4K on PCs, will accept $600+. It's still cheap compared to their flagship smartphones.
Bulk of clients will get the new budget model or hold on to / buy an Xbox One X - there's a big chance it will support future games.
Here, though, you're off the rails. There's no risk in selling at break-even, as game licensing easily makes up for any lost profits there. $10 per title sold, plus a portion of all in-game purchases, plus Xbox Live and Game pass - that all goes a long way quickly. They have near zero risk in selling this at break-even or even at a slight loss. PCs are quite different here, as it's an open system, so no game licences, no subscriptions, no cut of in-game purchases, etc. - so all profits must be made ahead of time.
 
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A great gaming machine with a cut-down semi-big Navi gen2 that will allow 60FPS@4K and 120FPS@1440P. What's not to like for $600? Just its iGPU's can be valued more than that compared to the ones on sale today.
 
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Agreed. Though the difference between $400 and $500 isn't massive, it's still there, and $500 has scared people off before - hello PS3 and Xbox One! - though those were both inferior in performance as well, making it a double whammy of inferiority that this very likely won't be.
just to back this up

A great gaming machine with a cut-down semi-big Navi gen2 that will allow 60FPS@4K and 120FPS@1440P. What's not to like for $600? Just its iGPU's can be valued more than that compared to the ones on sale today.
Those are meaningless numbers to console gamers, they only care if it will play the latest Madden, FIFA, CoD game on their 4k TV with shinier graphics then the previous generation
 
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10Gb of fast RAM, 6Gb of slow RAM...

The Nvidia 970 designers are smiling.
Memory with different speed have been always used in computing since its dawn and everything is tailored for specific needs. Having different memories with different speeds is not the problem rather than hiding it for commercial purposes.
 
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Those are meaningless numbers to console gamers, they only care if it will play the latest Madden, FIFA, CoD game on their 4k TV with shinier graphics then the previous generation
Smart marketing can change the perspective of what a console can become with the next-gen ones. And then, the $600 monster will seem VERY cheap for what it will offer.
 

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Anyone else question how long the system can sit at those clocks without heat concerns. Even if its 7nm, thats still a fairly big chip to be cooled. Though they are putting a huge heatsink on the thing.
 

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Like a second. Nominal clockspeed is probably much lower.

...unless n7+ is really that good...
 
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Anyone else question how long the system can sit at those clocks without heat concerns. Even if its 7nm, thats still a fairly big chip to be cooled. Though they are putting a huge heatsink on the thing.
The beauty of gaming on a console is: you don't have to give a f... In fact: you shouldn't!
If the first thing you think about is: "but what about overheating?", you've literraly wasted a big chunk of the premium you're paying to Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo.
What you should think about is: "will it look well in my living room?" and "is the controller comfortable?"

It's a black box. It was designed and (hopefully: well) tested. We should assume it can do its part.
And if it can't - there's very little you can do to help.
And there are only 2 makers to choose from. And if you already got a console but you don't like it, it's hard to move to the competition, because you can't take your games with you.
 

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The beauty of gaming on a console is: you don't have to give a f... In fact: you shouldn't!
If the first thing you think about is: "but what about overheating?", you've literraly wasted a big chunk of the premium you're paying to Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo.
What you should think about is: "will it look well in my living room?" and "is the controller comfortable?"

It's a black box. It was designed and (hopefully: well) tested. We should assume it can do its part.
And if it can't - there's very little you can do to help.
And there are only 2 makers to choose from. And if you already got a console but you don't like it, it's hard to move to the competition, because you can't take your games with you.
Well I'm an engineer so I do consider it. Even if you dont have it, i can't help my brain.
 
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Still too expensive. The specs of cheaper model will be what actually matter for majority of buyers.
What price is the XBOX Series X going to sell for? I don't see a price associated with it at the moment. And you cannot compare a console based system with a actual computer, in terms of cost. As the Consoles cost to make is a lot cheaper.
 

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What price is the XBOX Series X going to sell for? I don't see a price associated with it at the moment. And you cannot compare a console based system with a actual computer, in terms of cost. As the Consoles cost to make is a lot cheaper.
Itll probably be close to $600 im thinking.
 
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Anyone else question how long the system can sit at those clocks without heat concerns. Even if its 7nm, thats still a fairly big chip to be cooled. Though they are putting a huge heatsink on the thing.
Like a second. Nominal clockspeed is probably much lower.

...unless n7+ is really that good...
DF reported that MS were very explicit in saying (and reiterating and underscoring) that clocks are entirely fixed. No boost, no throttling. Period. Reported clocks are 24/7 clocks. The thinking is that this is a console, so it should have X performance no matter what, as performance shouldn't be down to user configurations or tweaks like in the PC space. A good call if you ask me.
 

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DF reported that MS were very explicit in saying (and reiterating and underscoring) that clocks are entirely fixed. No boost, no throttling. Period. Reported clocks are 24/7 clocks. The thinking is that this is a console, so it should have X performance no matter what, as performance shouldn't be down to user configurations or tweaks like in the PC space. A good call if you ask me.
Expect this to be a hot (pun intended) box, and noisy if it has some fans to chill it down a bit.

At N7 node, that performance needs wattage.
 
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