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Completed build - Intel Core i5-9600K mid-range gaming rig $1,200

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I have just completed a build. A number of amazing things to mention, and a few complaints or opinions really. Maybe not very organized, so excuse me.

The Sabrent Rocket 1TB (inspired by Tech Deals video) is AMAZING! Can you imagine boot time is about 9 seconds (POST included) from pressing power button to the Windows screen (No Windows hour glass)! This little kit comes in with a nice magazine like box.

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Pity that my Z390 can't use all of its potential, it's PCIe 4.0 compliant.

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Last image of the kit, it is now covered by the heatsink which comes with the Asus ROG Strix Z390-F mobo.

Asus is still the Asus I used to know since I built my first PC many years ago. My last system lasts for 6 years and is still good just a bit sluggish with one of the USB port P8Z77-I Deluxe it is. My new Asus ROG Strix Z390-F is second amazing in this build. It's truly plug and play out of the box. You know what? Boot it up and the first screen was Advanced BIOS screen. I just enabled XMP-I and it ramps up my Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 MHz CL 15 from 2333MHz to 3000 MHz 15-17-17-1. And that's all I changed. And all is good without any hassle. Maybe it's the result of willing to pay for a bit more for a premium board.

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Corsair H100i PRO RGB AIO, this one I have complaints. It's a bit strange to set up compared their first generation H60 AIO. It has too many wiring to do. But it works, however, in BIOS, you only see the speed of the pump (*denoted by CPU_FAN) I guess. The radiator fans speed are not known to the BIOS but they are running by visual confirmation. The design should make the information available to BIOS in my opinion. I haven't the time to download and install iCUE yet. But I really want to have both Asus fan control software and Corsair's to combine the best of the two worlds. The speed of the pump is saying 2080 rpm, is that a good number?

The Corsair RMx 850W PSU fit well into the Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 which is an excellent box akin to MasterBox NR600 for ATX form factor build. I can write a little user review article about it, it deserves one cause it seems that the case is under-rated as no reviews can be found. Back to the PSU, it's 24 pin trunk is SOOO thick that I almost thought it wouldn't allow the right side panel to close. And it looks la bit bulgy.

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Also, can Corsair not make the PSU's logo inverted? The case MB511 doesn't have a cutout for showing the logo but still this kind of things though trivial but it's good to have a mindset of perfection.

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nice what s the gpu going to be?
 

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That's mid range? For that money it would be very high-end for me. Good job though. Money could of been saved in some areas though
 

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Corsair H100i PRO RGB AIO, this one I have complaints. It's a bit strange to set up compared their first generation H60 AIO. It has too many wiring to do. But it works, however, in BIOS, you only see the speed of the pump (*denoted by CPU_FAN) I guess. The radiator fans speed are not known to the BIOS but they are running by visual confirmation. The design should make the information available to BIOS in my opinion. I haven't the time to download and install iCUE yet. But I really want to have both Asus fan control software and Corsair's to combine the best of the two worlds. The speed of the pump is saying 2080 rpm, is that a good number?
As I pointed out in you other thread, you have the option to hook it up so the BIOS sees the fans and controls them if you want. You do not have to plug the fans into the pump.
 
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That's mid range? For that money it would be very high-end for me. Good job though. Money could of been saved in some areas though
the cost would be more than enough for my entire office rig, funding ten of em i guess:D
 
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nice! but would have drop the psu down to 750w and use that money somewhere else too.
 
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Less talk, more photos!!!
 
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Corsair H100i PRO RGB AIO, this one I have complaints. It's a bit strange to set up compared their first generation H60 AIO. It has too many wiring to do. But it works, however, in BIOS, you only see the speed of the pump (*denoted by CPU_FAN) I guess. The radiator fans speed are not known to the BIOS but they are running by visual confirmation. The design should make the information available to BIOS in my opinion. I haven't the time to download and install iCUE yet. But I really want to have both Asus fan control software and Corsair's to combine the best of the two worlds. The speed of the pump is saying 2080 rpm, is that a good number?
I can’t understand why the need of the Bios/board to see the fan speed...
As I said on the other thread... by installing Corsair software, like the LINK you can control everything and it’s the only one you can trust for pump/fans rpm as it reads them directly.
As already said at my Corsair AIO the pump runs 2370rpm at low and 2800+ at high(performance) You can set a desired fan curve by software or choose a profile out of the 3 pre sets.
Why all the fuss?
 
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Was tied up by other things after posting the first thread, I haven't finished about this little review of my new build yet.

I wrote this post is because I like to share the experience and the performance of each component so that others who like to build with the same components can have reference.

Here is the breakdown of the cost:
CPU = 9600K ($245)
MOBO = Asus ROG Strix Z390-F ($217)
STORAGE = Sabrent Rocket 1TB PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe Drive($115) {Excellent piece of technology marvel)
COOLER = Corsair H100i PRO RGB ($102)
RAM = Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz CL15 Red {low profile} ($88)
PSU = Corsair RMx 850W ($166)
GPU = Asus ROG Strix RX 570 4GB OC ($185) {The new system BIOS detects that the ICs are Samsung made)
CASE = Cooler Master MasterBox MB511 ($75)

Total $1,193

During the assembly process, the most difficult part was the sequence of putting everything together. The wires could be very challenging. Firstly, the H100i PRO has 4 different kinds of wires. Despite I can hide them through passing them through the cutout of the case, but the SATA power cable is a large piece when you have to embed inside the right side of the case. Then its Y-splitter is another challenge. Fortunately the USB i-link cable is long enough to run through fromt he top to the bottom of the back panel and merge with the USB header on the mobo. But that's luck! What if Corsair has got it shorter. The hose also annoys me. It's far too long when the rad/fan combo is put to the roof.

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Can you folks see one of the hoses is actually touching on the graphics board circuitry? I thought about relocating the GFX board to the slot lower for half and hour. Then I deserted the idea lest that it will affect some of the SATA ports. So I just tied the hoses up and adjusted the joints by pushing them slightly upwards. Marginally it works, but now there is something which will keep worrying you , will one fine day when I wake up i find the hose sticks to the board again! It was sticky when I found the fault actually maybe the surface of the hose have melted a bit. I guess Corsair has made the provision for builders to put the rad/fan combo at the front for longer case like mine. As you can see there are plenty of space between the board area and the front, that is specifically designed for custom cooling solution I can be sure about it. But Corsair, can you refine on your product please.

Slightly off topic, I nearly went for a Corsair case called Carbide 275R Airflow, be aware, not 275R it's the 275R Airflow. It is the refined version of the 275R with the front plastic panel perforated with a slant lined cavities, I just called them cavaties maybe some might call them holes. But I was hesitating because there is no information on their official website which provides the information as to whether a 240 fan/rad combo is possible. Isn't that ridiculous for a company which produces highly performing AIO systems but in their Case department, information about compatibility are not documented. Compared with Cooler Master, they have done an excellent job in that regards. You can easily check out Cooling solutions compatibility in very case they have on their website. In fact I was also looking at SPEC-06, unfortunately, after much research, I find that it can't accommodate any AIO at the roof. Even up to today, I have not received reply from Corsair on their forum about my question regarding the 275R Airflow. It has been a long wait and I was out of patience. I gathered nearly 20 videos on Youtube regarding the MB511. You know what, some of them are in Arabic, Hindu and Korean which I don't have any clue what they are saying. I just checked their setup. Then after a few days, seeing that no reply from Corsair I went downtown to get the parts.
This rig could have been 70% Corsair, think about PSU, RAM, AIO and the CASE are all Corsair. In my next build I would probably change to Cooler Master or even NZXT. Some change is needed.

Without iCUE, here is all I have got about the fan monitoring:

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The front case fans are independent operating so I cast them out. I have 1 rear fan connected to the motherboard and one from the pump. The 2045 rpm is the pump rotating speed? My H60 1st gen was reading 4550 rpm in my old system. How do I interpret this data? Another improvement that Corsair has to work on. I don't know other brands which I will definitely going to find out. But is this 2045 rpm a fake figure? I was told that the pump runs at full speed, how come the curve isn't completely horizontal then?

I dislike having one thing must give up another. Corsair practically is asking consumers to give up their BIOS monitoring and go to use their iCUE. Okay, make your own brand of motherboard then.

Both the Asus BIOS and their XPert Fan 4 are new to me, that's why i like to try out.

In fact, here is what I originally intended to do, plugging the fans into CHA_FAN2, OPT_FAN and leave the 3 pin in CPU_FAN and leave the y-splitter unplugged. But isn't that stupid?! Why not make the Y-splitter dettach-able like the i-Link cable??
 
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The front case fans are independent operating so I cast them out. I have 1 rear fan connected to the motherboard and one from the pump. (1) The 2045 rpm is the pump rotating speed? My H60 1st gen was reading 4550 rpm in my old system. How do I interpret this data? Another improvement that Corsair has to work on. I don't know other brands which I will definitely going to find out. (2) But is this 2045 rpm a fake figure? I was told that the pump runs at full speed, how come the curve isn't completely horizontal then?

I dislike having one thing must give up another. Corsair practically is asking consumers to give up their BIOS monitoring and go to use their iCUE. Okay, make your own brand of motherboard then.

Both the Asus BIOS and their XPert Fan 4 are new to me, that's why i like to try out.

In fact, here is what I originally intended to do, plugging the fans into CHA_FAN2, OPT_FAN and leave the 3 pin in CPU_FAN and leave the y-splitter unplugged. (3) But isn't that stupid?! Why not make the Y-splitter dettach-able like the i-Link cable??
1) This cooler is larger. Has the double size of the H60 and I believe the fans are faster too. So pump does not need to speed as much. I suggest you again to install Link or iCue to have full control of your cooling solution and to set it up as you like. Also do not trust what the board is reading. For the accurate pump rpm reading use the Corsair software. Do not unplug it either from CPU fan header. BIOS has to read something for not give warning of CPU fan stopped, or find (if exists) the setting that ignores it if you want to unplug it.

2) The pump does not change speed by its own and for sure the board cant change the speed either. What you see in BIOS is the curve line that would work when you plug a fan and not a pump. The board cannot alter pump speed because it has no control on it. Only Corsair software can.

3) Because the cooling system works best with Corsair software...
 
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1) This cooler is larger. Has the double size of the H60 and I believe the fans are faster too. So pump does not need to speed as much. I suggest you again to install Link or iCue to have full control of your cooling solution and to set it up as you like. Also do not trust what the board is reading. For the accurate pump rpm reading use the Corsair software. Do not unplug it either from CPU fan header. BIOS has to read something for not give warning of CPU fan stopped, or find (if exists) the setting that ignores it if you want to unplug it.

2) The pump does not change speed by its own and for sure the board cant change the speed either. What you see in BIOS is the curve line that would work when you plug a fan and not a pump. The board cannot alter pump speed because it has no control on it. Only Corsair software can.

3) Because the cooling system works best with Corsair software...
Thanks for the reminder.
So the pump speed does change.
Again H60 is much simple, it doesn't change. "Fire and Forget" or "Plug and Play" is the best.
Right now, the temperature is hovering at 34C after XMP is enabled and all systems go. Room temp is around 25C. Is this idle temperature good?
 
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For idle is just fine... Have you stress it somehow?
And I dont know how the pump/fans are going to react without Corsair software under stress. I never tried it.
Are you afraid of Corsair software or something?

Well this is not straight plug and play. Its a more advanced cooling solution. I like advanced stuff... You only have to set it once after you find what suits you and then you can forget.
 
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I'm guessing you're not in the United States... for $1200 you could easily do a 2060 super or 5700XT build...


Also as @Zach_01 has stated repeatedly you need to use iCue with the majority of all modern Corsair CPU coolers to get their full performance.

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For idle is just fine... Have you stress it somehow?
And I dont know how the pump/fans are going to react without Corsair software under stress. I never tried it.
Are you afraid of Corsair software or something?

Well this is not straight plug and play. Its a more advanced cooling solution. I like advanced stuff... You only have to set it once after you find what suits you and then you can forget.
Yes, I also reckon the temp is very good at idle. My current system 3570K is still holding at 42C to 43C at idle.
I haven't stressed it. I don't intend to. But I will run some "hot" games like Civilization VI. I may also run Crysis 3 to see how it performs, don't expect too much to the point of view of Crysis 3, only i7-9700K can make its way to 60+ FPS.
But right now I am tidying up this old rig and moving files across and preparing new files. I might need to wait for new USB arrives. Actually M.2 drive ireally lightning fast, I'm just hesitating if I should get an SSD. What make you would recommend? Got little money left. Going to get a new smaller case to put this current P8Z77-I Deluxe in after cleaning it, it is full of dust quite horrendous actually. But it is still usable for daily work.

I'm guessing you're not in the United States... for $1200 you could easily do a 2060 super or 5700XT build...


Also as @Zach_01 has stated repeatedly you need to use iCue with the majority of all modern Corsair CPU coolers to get their full performance.

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Yes I read the review https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_h100i_pro_review,8.html

Thanks for the headsup

nice! but would have drop the psu down to 750w and use that money somewhere else too.
Here is what I think:
Corsair PSU products are 80 Gold Plus meaning 90% x claimed wattage, am I right? So in fact this 850W is 765W.
Now let's assume for a minute that it practically works at 756W at full loads. Then further assume a depreciation rate of 9% every year based on the fact that a daily use of 6 hours give or take 0.5 hours. Then in 2 years time, the actual maximum wattage will be 756W x 0.91 x 0.91 = 626W

So in time, no more 850W

Less talk, more photos!!!
Sure!
This is my previous build, the year was 2013. Bitfenix Prodigy is a good case. The mobo is lying on above the PSU shroud in a horizontal position. Then the GFX card can sit upright. Mind you, the left side panel have perforated holes just next to the fan positions of the GFX card so air can be drawn in. It's a thougtful design for mATX and iTX mobo. It can fit 120mm rad/fan combo at the roof.

I want to collect more screenies and organize them. There are some issues during the build that I want to illustrate with photos.
For the time being, just feed you folks with these:

Actually I was not a fan of RGB. But now, a change of heart:roll:
As I pointed out in you other thread, you have the option to hook it up so the BIOS sees the fans and controls them if you want. You do not have to plug the fans into the pump.
Actually I got replies from Corsair about the arrangement. He explained in great details. He also knows about the motherboard. He suggests that CPU_FAN and CPU_OPT are very sensitive control headers so hooking up the two fans are do-able but not the best option. He said because of the over-reactive behaviour of the two headers, a slight change in temperature detected will activate the fan thus resulting in unnecessary fluctuations of voltage fed to the two headers. In fact it might cause rapid wearing of the two headers.
Due to the complexity of the matter, I have finally resorted to follow the manual instructions.
It's not ideal, not up to my expectations and honestly speaking I am very unhappy because of losing the options using the BIOS and XpertFan 4 in Windows to monitor the fans. I know as I said before that iCUE can provide the same service, but why deprived me of the rights to use features I paid for the Asus products? iCUE is not free, despite it is a free download. I believe that is what is called "hidden price". When you pay for the PSU and H100i PRO with that price tag, you're also paying for iCUE as well. Likewise, the excellent Asus's BIOS and its XpertFan 4 applications is also included in the price of the motherboard. What Corsair is doing in fact are throwing some of the money we spent on motherboard into the dust bin. Not good! Actually I may very well change to other brands when I revamp my 3570K and in future builds.
 

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Here is what I think:
Corsair PSU products are 80 Gold Plus meaning 90% x claimed wattage, am I right? So in fact this 850W is 765W.
Now let's assume for a minute that it practically works at 756W at full loads. Then further assume a depreciation rate of 9% every year based on the fact that a daily use of 6 hours give or take 0.5 hours. Then in 2 years time, the actual maximum wattage will be 756W x 0.91 x 0.91 = 626W

So in time, no more 850W
That's completely wrong. 80+ are efficiency rating. the PSU can output 850 W to components, if they need that much power. At 850 W output a 90+ Gold PSU has to have at least 88% efficiency. So to deliver 850 W of power, it takes 850/88*100 = 966 W from wall, resulting in 116 W of heat losses.

Also, how did you come the 9 % deprecation per year? Do you think 10 year warranty would be economical for Corsair if this was true?

Otherwise, hope you're happy with your build.
 
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Also, how did you come the 9 % deprecation per year? Do you think 10 year warranty would be economical for Corsair if this was true?
My TX 750W is not working as it should. Anti-surge happen 3 times in a month. Not stable. Not as powerful as before.

M.2 PCIe Gen3 x 4 Interface. PCIe 3.1 Compliant / NVMe 1.3 Compliant.

It's not a gen 4 drive.

Ps.
My old i5 booted in 8.7 sec with sata. Just saying.
Must be a very fast SATA then. Thanks for the correction.
 

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Thanks for the reminder.
So the pump speed does change.
Again H60 is much simple, it doesn't change. "Fire and Forget" or "Plug and Play" is the best.
I don't understand why you aren't getting that you can still do it this way?

Yes, the pump speed changes if you want it to. Or it can be "Fire and Forget". IMO, there is no reason to change the pump speed, I've left it running full speed from the day I installed it, it is silent at full speed anyway. The ONLY thing I installed iCUE for when it comes to the Corsair coolers I have is to control the RGB. The fans are controlled through the motherboard, and pump runs at full speed.

Yes, the pump speed read in the BIOS is the correct pump speed(or close enough). The older pumps reported double their actual speed(I believe this is because the old pumps were 4-pole while most fans and the new pumps are 2-pole). The reality is the actual pump speed shouldn't really matter. All you really care about is that the pump is moving, and that is what that sensor tells you. If one day, you notice that sensor is 0, or even a lot lower than what it normally is, you know there is a problem. If it stays around 2000RPM, you're fine.

Actually I got replies from Corsair about the arrangement. He explained in great details. He also knows about the motherboard. He suggests that CPU_FAN and CPU_OPT are very sensitive control headers so hooking up the two fans are do-able but not the best option. He said because of the over-reactive behaviour of the two headers, a slight change in temperature detected will activate the fan thus resulting in unnecessary fluctuations of voltage fed to the two headers. In fact it might cause rapid wearing of the two headers.
Whoever you talked to is full of shit. Fan headers are designed to run fans. Any idiot that says "using them with fans will cause them to wear out" should immediately be ignored. You talked to a Corsair PR guy, of course he was going to tell you to use Corsairs products...

Also, I'm pretty sure that motherboard lets you adjust how often the fans speeds are changed. I haven't used that particular board, but all the high end boards I've used have this feature. For example, my boards are set to wait 2.5 seconds before adjusting fan speeds up(the default was 0) and it waits 5 seconds before lowing the fan speeds(again the default was 0).

But anyway, the point is Corsair isn't forcing you to do anything. They are giving you the option to do it either way you want.
 

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Yes, I also reckon the temp is very good at idle. My current system 3570K is still holding at 42C to 43C at idle.
I haven't stressed it. I don't intend to. But I will run some "hot" games like Civilization VI. I may also run Crysis 3 to see how it performs, don't expect too much to the point of view of Crysis 3, only i7-9700K can make its way to 60+ FPS.
But right now I am tidying up this old rig and moving files across and preparing new files. I might need to wait for new USB arrives. Actually M.2 drive ireally lightning fast, I'm just hesitating if I should get an SSD. What make you would recommend? Got little money left. Going to get a new smaller case to put this current P8Z77-I Deluxe in after cleaning it, it is full of dust quite horrendous actually. But it is still usable for daily work.


Yes I read the review https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/corsair_h100i_pro_review,8.html

Thanks for the headsup


Here is what I think:
Corsair PSU products are 80 Gold Plus meaning 90% x claimed wattage, am I right? So in fact this 850W is 765W.
Now let's assume for a minute that it practically works at 756W at full loads. Then further assume a depreciation rate of 9% every year based on the fact that a daily use of 6 hours give or take 0.5 hours. Then in 2 years time, the actual maximum wattage will be 756W x 0.91 x 0.91 = 626W

So in time, no more 850W


Actually I got replies from Corsair about the arrangement. He explained in great details. He also knows about the motherboard. He suggests that CPU_FAN and CPU_OPT are very sensitive control headers so hooking up the two fans are do-able but not the best option. He said because of the over-reactive behaviour of the two headers, a slight change in temperature detected will activate the fan thus resulting in unnecessary fluctuations of voltage fed to the two headers. In fact it might cause rapid wearing of the two headers.
Due to the complexity of the matter, I have finally resorted to follow the manual instructions.

It's not ideal, not up to my expectations and honestly speaking I am very unhappy because of losing the options using the BIOS and XpertFan 4 in Windows to monitor the fans. I know as I said before that iCUE can provide the same service, but why deprived me of the rights to use features I paid for the Asus products? iCUE is not free, despite it is a free download. I believe that is what is called "hidden price". When you pay for the PSU and H100i PRO with that price tag, you're also paying for iCUE as well. Likewise, the excellent Asus's BIOS and its XpertFan 4 applications is also included in the price of the motherboard. What Corsair is doing in fact are throwing some of the money we spent on motherboard into the dust bin. Not good! Actually I may very well change to other brands when I revamp my 3570K and in future builds.
You are so far off the mark its not even funny.

That is not how power supplies work at all. 80% Standard means the unit is efficient to that standard so 90% efficiency means at a full load of 850-watts the system would draw about 950-watts from the wall.

Also power supplies never operate at a max wattage, they work in a wattage range from standby to maximum wattage, your system will only use around 250-watts or so. Meaning depending on the power supply as they are not all the same, could mean your not operating in the peak efficiency range. Peak efficiency is typically around 50% of the max of the unit. (some newer designs are nearly linear in efficiency but im to lazy to look up your unit.


Whoever you talked to is full of shit. Fan headers are designed to run fans. Any idiot that says "using them with fans will cause them to wear out" should immediately be ignored. You talked to a Corsair PR guy, of course he was going to tell you to use Corsairs products...
Agreed
 
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I don't understand why you aren't getting that you can still do it this way?

Yes, the pump speed changes if you want it to. Or it can be "Fire and Forget". IMO, there is no reason to change the pump speed, I've left it running full speed from the day I installed it, it is silent at full speed anyway. The ONLY thing I installed iCUE for when it comes to the Corsair coolers I have is to control the RGB. The fans are controlled through the motherboard, and pump runs at full speed.

Yes, the pump speed read in the BIOS is the correct pump speed(or close enough). The older pumps reported double their actual speed(I believe this is because the old pumps were 4-pole while most fans and the new pumps are 2-pole). The reality is the actual pump speed shouldn't really matter. All you really care about is that the pump is moving, and that is what that sensor tells you. If one day, you notice that sensor is 0, or even a lot lower than what it normally is, you know there is a problem. If it stays around 2000RPM, you're fine.



Whoever you talked to is full of shit. Fan headers are designed to run fans. Any idiot that says "using them with fans will cause them to wear out" should immediately be ignored. You talked to a Corsair PR guy, of course he was going to tell you to use Corsairs products...

Also, I'm pretty sure that motherboard lets you adjust how often the fans speeds are changed. I haven't used that particular board, but all the high end boards I've used have this feature. For example, my boards are set to wait 2.5 seconds before adjusting fan speeds up(the default was 0) and it waits 5 seconds before lowing the fan speeds(again the default was 0).

But anyway, the point is Corsair isn't forcing you to do anything. They are giving you the option to do it either way you want.
Thanks!
Actually, a question comes to my mind : Do you setup for radiator fan to be adjustable or at full speed.
Reason I ask is because I find the overall dB is not very disturbing. The front 3 stock fans produce some noise but acceptable.
The rear fan by the way, though it is a 3 pin, but thanks to Asus, its speed can go over 1000 when Q-Fan is disabled. The speed you see in the screenshot is Q-Fan set to Auto. The rear fan is also not noisy.
However you mentioned that the pump is silent, then it alerts me. I heard some squirting sound from outside the case. I am just like 3 ft from it. Is that normal? It's not noisy but audible.
Even if I connect the fans to the headers I will also set them to full speed, maybe. Because I have not installed iCUE yet so I don't know whether currently it is running at full speed.
But you see, I really like to have more monitoring options.

Yes, Corsair isn't forcing. But I guess they must have tested their system with the configuration they recommend in their manual. So maybe that's an optimum setup.
Anyhow, if I have other options, I would have chosen it. I was evaluating NZXT actually. But in the end I have chosen Corsair.
 

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Squirt noise is air bubbles working their way out, eventually those noises will stop or happen only when the system is first booted up.

Most users allow PWM to control the fans on the radiator, same goes for case fans and rear exhaust fans if they are PWM and not super cheap that is cheap = 3-pin. 4-pin fans attached to the mobo all react to CPU temp when doing so meaning the system is quiet at idle, and only as audible as it needs to be to maintain proper performance.

Corsairs setup isnt optimal its just an option.

For the record I review CPU coolers including Corsair's and the whole do it our way plug it in here cause its the best! is bullshit. It works but its not better. Mobo control by editing the PWM curve in the BIOS = customized to the user doesn't need extra software to function and its a set it and forget it solution.
 

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Do you setup for radiator fan to be adjustable or at full speed.
My fans on my radiators are controlled by the motherboard, and their speed changes based on the temperature of the CPU.

However you mentioned that the pump is silent, then it alerts me. I heard some squirting sound from outside the case. I am just like 3 ft from it. Is that normal? It's not noisy but audible.
It's just air working its way out of the pump/hoses, as @crazyeyesreaper already pointed out. It should go away pretty quickly.

Even if I connect the fans to the headers I will also set them to full speed, maybe. Because I have not installed iCUE yet so I don't know whether currently it is running at full speed.
But you see, I really like to have more monitoring options.
If you connect them to the pump or connect them to the motherboard, you really don't have any more monitoring options. In fact, connecting them to the pump actually gives you less monitoring options.

When the fans are connect to the pump, the only option you have to monitor the fans is Corsair's software. When the fans are connected to the motherboard, there is a bunch of software that will monitor the fan speeds. Besides ASUS's software, pretty much every other hardware monitoring program(HWInfo, HWMonitor, SpeedFan, Aida64, etc) can be used to monitor the fans.

Yes, Corsair isn't forcing. But I guess they must have tested their system with the configuration they recommend in their manual. So maybe that's an optimum setup.
Anyhow, if I have other options, I would have chosen it. I was evaluating NZXT actually. But in the end I have chosen Corsair.
Regardless of which brand you go with, there is like a 90% chance at this point that the AIO cooler is manufactured by the same company and just rebranded.
 
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Nice clean work!!! I assume the hoses are long to work with any size system, I do suggest wire Tying them up in the top right hand corner of the case(when looking in from the side) and only let the hoses touch on the GPU(as there is little space between the memory and GPU). that should "pull" the extra hose away from resting on the GPU.
 
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I can’t understand why the need of the Bios/board to see the fan speed...
As I said on the other thread... by installing Corsair software, like the LINK you can control everything and it’s the only one you can trust for pump/fans rpm as it reads them directly.
As already said at my Corsair AIO the pump runs 2370rpm at low and 2800+ at high(performance) You can set a desired fan curve by software or choose a profile out of the 3 pre sets.
Why all the fuss?
Except None but the mobo bios is trustworthy and reliable in my use.
IQue drops sensor and fan readbacks randomly and often, in fact worse than most other , i have seen very few mobo readbacks fail.
IQue often looses one or more devices attached or drops features off of a devices tab too.
Im using it because I have no choice , it's great when working but not great full stop.
Link is even worse.
 
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I dont have any issues with Link using it for over 2 years now with H110i AIO, never used the iCue.
And I have no reason to doubt your findings...
 
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