Computer Upgrade King Continuum Micro Gaming PC (Ryzen 7 2700 + RX 580 4GB)

[bug]

No idea, but what I do know is that blowers are noisy because they cool much worse per RPM of the fan and that has everything to do with how a radial fan works. Won't fix that with a bit of angle.. or maybe it will save a tiny bit barely noticeable in the scheme of things. I don't know, we're already complaining about tripleslots... this would introduce tripleslot blowers.

I wasn't thinking triple slots, but rather reducing the need to spin the fan at high speeds: a larger fan needs to spin slower to provide the same air flow and mounting it at an angle needs even less RPM because the air is a little directed in the right way now.
But since I don't think I'm the first to have thought about this and yet we don't see this solution in the market, the logical conclusion would be that somebody, somewhere has tried it and found it doesn't improve things enough.

 

[MrGRiMv25]

Since we got the stand designed along with case and mass produced by the thousand, cost for stand was no more than $2. Its metal and its screwed down so the GPU isn't going anywhere. During shipping, we just have to add instapak expandable foam above GPU to make sure it doesn't shift up.

Most definitely lower price than using Sapphire Nitro+ cards then! Pity AMD's ambargo expires in a few days; just after you get a nice clean looking system out the door!

 

[advanced3]

Their name is CUcK, really?

Oof....

You might want to rethink that company name.

 

[-The_Mask-]

The PSU in this desktop that was reviewed was a 600W 80+ Gold made by Thermaltake. Its not sold retail so you wouldn't recognize it. Thermaltake sells it to system builders in bulk (not individual retail boxed) packaging and it has all the required certs. We use this 600W Gold Thermaltake PSU for a lot of our builds that are in the $800-$2K range but we increase up to 700W or 750W for anything with i9-9900K since we make sure max system power draw (stressing with Prime95+Furmark) is no greater than 80% of the PSU's capacity. For $349-$599 desktops with only Ryzen 3 or 5 APU CPU and no dedicated GPU that don't pull much more than 150W under load, that is when we go with low cost PSU like 80+ white. AMD builds need at minimum 80+ white or else the variance in the voltages supplied will cause stability issues.

You didn't understand any word I said right?

Because I just explained that 80PLUS has nothing to do with quality or performance. It is just a measurement of efficiency, but that doesn't mean that a 80PLUS Bronze PSU can't be more efficient than a 80PLUS Gold one. But it has really nothing to do with compatibility, stability or things like that.

 

[IceShroom]

You didn't understand any word I said right?

Because I just explained that 80PLUS has nothing to do with quality or performance. It is just a measurement of efficiency, but that doesn't mean that a 80PLUS Bronze PSU can't be more efficient than a 80PLUS Gold one. But it has really nothing to do with compatibility, stability or things like that.

A 80 Plus Brown will be not efficient as efficient as a 80 Plus Gold.
But a 80 Plus Brown PSU may have better component than 80 Plus Gold.

 

[-The_Mask-]

A 80 Plus Brown will be not efficient as efficient as a 80 Plus Gold.
But a 80 Plus Brown PSU may have better component than 80 Plus Gold.

What's 80PLUS Brown?

If you mean 80PLUS Bronze, then it's like I said. 80PLUS doesn't tell you much, a 80PLUS Bronze can be more efficient as a 80PLUS Gold PSU. You just see it less and less, because manufacturers optimizes the PSU more and more for 80PLUS. 80PLUS certification is just what it says an 80PLUS certification, nothing more nothing less.

 

[IceShroom]

What's 80PLUS Brown?

If you mean 80PLUS Bronze, then it's like I said. 80PLUS doesn't tell you much, a 80PLUS Bronze can be more efficient as a 80PLUS Gold PSU. You just see it less and less, because manufacturers optimizes the PSU more and more for 80PLUS. 80PLUS certification is just what it says an 80PLUS certification, nothing more nothing less.

Yes I mean 80 Plus Bronze.

What's 80PLUS Brown?

If you mean 80PLUS Bronze, then it's like I said. 80PLUS doesn't tell you much, a 80PLUS Bronze can be more efficient as a 80PLUS Gold PSU. You just see it less and less, because manufacturers optimizes the PSU more and more for 80PLUS. 80PLUS certification is just what it says an 80PLUS certification, nothing more nothing less.

Yes I meant 80 Plus Bronze.

 

[EarthDog]

but that doesn't mean that a 80PLUS Bronze PSU can't be more efficient than a 80PLUS Gold one.

It doesn't? Wouldn't the PSU company then market it as whatever tier it qualifies for? Why would they label something bronze when it can reach gold (or higher than bronze)? Do they like throwing profit away??? I don't understand this statement.

80 Plus is its own tier... lower than bronze, remember.

 

[bug]

It doesn't? Wouldn't the PSU company then market it as whatever tier it qualifies for? Why would they label something bronze when it can reach gold (or higher than bronze)? Do they like throwing profit away??? I don't understand this statement.

80 Plus is its own tier... lower than bronze, remember.

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I was looking to dig up that, you beat me to it.

 

[King Rob]

Not a fan of prebuilt, but this response is welcome and the content of it is good news across the board... apart from perhaps the noisy, blower style GPU choice. I would rather see solid case airflow instead and I reckon it will sell better too with decent open air GPUs. This is the metric a gamer is going to be looking at literally all the time. Many people play with in-game Rivatuner OSDs and see those clocks and temps. And they will notice differences when comparing with your average 'tuber elsewhere.

Welcome!

The airflow in the case is really good as you can see from the huge open vent design for the front panel with 3 exhaust fans to match the 3 front intakes. The issue is that this is a small chassis that is less than 30 liters (around 1 cubic foot size) so with less air in the case, the temps get hotter.

https://cukusa.com/cuk-continuum-micro-amd-ryzen-b450-custom-gaming-desktop-computer.html listing has been revised now with the Ryzen 3000 CPU options and the 600-2200rpm PWM fans with universal 3pin 5V connector that resolves Wraith cooler's sync issue.

 

[bug]

The airflow in the case is really good as you can see from the huge open vent design for the front panel with 3 exhaust fans to match the 3 front intakes. The issue is that this is a small chassis that is less than 30 liters (around 1 cubic foot size) so with less air in the case, the temps get hotter.

I can confirm that. I have moved to a smaller Raijintek Thetis case. Good air flow and everything, but the GTX1060 still gets warmer than it used to (mind you, I have only noticed this in the summer and only a put my hand in front of the exhaust).
Still, I don't think the problem is the fan as much as the choice of video card. As far as I can see on TPU, a custom design RX580 gets as hot as a reference 2060 Super, for example.

 

[-The_Mask-]

It doesn't? Wouldn't the PSU company then market it as whatever tier it qualifies for? Why would they label something bronze when it can reach gold (or higher than bronze)? Do they like throwing profit away??? I don't understand this statement.

80 Plus is its own tier... lower than bronze, remember.

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It's really simple. Which 80PLUS certification gets a PSU that has an efficiency of 90% at 10% load, 92% at 20% load, 93% at 50% load, 90% at 80% load and 84% at 100% load on 115V?

A efficiency curve like that is by the way quite typical for a PSU that uses Active Clamp Reset Forward (ACRF) primary.

 

[bug]

It's really simple. Which 80PLUS certification gets a PSU that has an efficiency of 90% at 10% load, 92% at 20% load, 93% at 50% load, 90% at 80% load and 84% at 100% load on 115V?

A efficiency curve like that is by the way quite typical for a PSU that uses Active Clamp Reset Forward (ACRF) primary.

Going against math is never simple. The standard is defined as a set of curves. PSUs that meet one curve are more efficient then PSUs that only meet curves below that. That is simple. What you are trying to say is not.

And while I understand what you are trying to say, you are both generalizing starting from a particular situation and disregarding that PCs usually have a stable load, they don't sweep across 0-100% load.

 

[-The_Mask-]

Please try to understand what I'm saying, it's not rocket science.