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4ghz should not be a problem

but set a goal for 3.8, then youll just be happy if it does 4ghz

remember that p55 isnt triplechannel, and the memory has to be low voltage, or youll have to clock them down to under 1.65v

but you can use 3 stics if you like
 
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Awesome, thanks!
What sort of clock do you think I would be able to get out of an i7 860 and 3GB of random DDR3, on, say, a P55A-UD3 with my H50? Maybe 3.8ghz?

4ghz should not be a problem

but set a goal for 3.8, then youll just be happy if it does 4ghz

remember that p55 isnt triplechannel, and the memory has to be low voltage, or youll have to clock them down to under 1.65v

but you can use 3 stics if you like

I notice that 3.8 GHz is the sweet spot, but 4Ghz should be easily doable.
 

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4ghz should not be a problem

but set a goal for 3.8, then youll just be happy if it does 4ghz

remember that p55 isnt triplechannel, and the memory has to be low voltage, or youll have to clock them down to under 1.65v

but you can use 3 stics if you like

It's actually 1 1gb stick and 1 2gb stick, not ideal, but JR said I could have it, so it's far better than spending $100+ on a 2x2GB kit. I'm so excited, I really want to get an i7, hopefully I will :)
 
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It's actually 1 1gb stick and 1 2gb stick, not ideal, but JR said I could have it, so it's far better than spending $100+ on a 2x2GB kit. I'm so excited, I really want to get an i7, hopefully I will :)

not to mention, 4kppd from one rig :D
 
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oh:)

but you could still use a triple channel kit in a dual channel board, but youll only get dual channel, but i guess you know that:p
 

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not to mention, 4kppd from one rig :D

Woot! That's fully twice what I get with the Phenom II X4 (a bit more actually)

Although, just getting an X6 1055T is tempting since it would only be $75 if I sold the X4, $200 if I kept it. But 8 threads is so awesome.....
Decisions :shadedshu :D

EDIT: @Don: I've found that there's not much difference between single and dual channel, so I don't really care, it's probably about the same between dual and tri. So as long as it crunches, whatever :D
 

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I am obviously a little bias:)
But i7 is what I would suggest. I got an ASRock motherboard for $114 on the Egg, plus there are other cheap and used X58 motherboards out there as they have been out for a while now.
 

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I am obviously a little bias:)
But i7 is what I would suggest. I got an ASRock motherboard for $114 on the Egg, plus there are other cheap and used X58 motherboards out there as they have been out for a while now.

So would an i7 920 setup be better than an 860 setup? I would think that an 860 setup would be cheaper (and it uses less power, which is good), and just as fast for WCG, no?

An i7 really is sounding nice :cool: :D
 

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The 860 is a pretty good solution. I went that route cause it was cheaper and there is no separate Northbridge like on the X58 (which can run hot). After my 780i I was done with hot NBs :D

Ever since Rice finished, my 860 @ 3.5 is producing 4k PPD when the weather lets it go 24/7.
 

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The 860 is a pretty good solution. I went that route cause it was cheaper and there is no separate Northbridge like on the X58 (which can run hot). After my 780i I was done with hot NBs :D

Ever since Rice finished, my 860 @ 3.5 is producing 4k PPD when the weather lets it go 24/7.

Awesome, so at 3.8-4ghz 4k PPD should be doable (I don't run 24.7, maybe 20.7)

Did you get lower or higher PPD with RICE? I've found that it was about the same as I got with everything else
 

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With Rice my PPD was lower, like 3500PPD. I think that was the nature of the WU though with the way they had fixed run times and whatnot.

Here is my last 7 day break down:

On the 11th and 15th Heat prevented 24/7 use, and today has not updated fully plus I played Dirt2 :D So with a 3.8 to 4.0 clock you should get the numbers you want.

However, as a previous North Carolina resident I know there is major heat and humidity to deal with right now so that may affect what you feel comfortable with as far as your OC. Even the 860 with a 95w TDP likes to run warm- mine gets no higher than 62C so far, but has only seen outside temps of 87F with no AC. They can get into the 80s loaded up, so 4.0 might need to wait till fall :laugh:
 

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So would an i7 920 setup be better than an 860 setup? I would think that an 860 setup would be cheaper (and it uses less power, which is good), and just as fast for WCG, no?

An i7 really is sounding nice :cool: :D

Couldn't tell ya as I have never owned a 860...
 

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Go 1366 X58 with a 920/930. The single vs dual vs triple is a moot point currently with it being a cruncher. Although you never know this could turn into your main rig right Ion?

Oh and to clear things up. It's my third stick out of my triple channel kit along with a Corsair XSM3, both default @ 1.65v @ 1333 CL9.
 
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I would vouch for a 920 setup, it's what I've owned and it's great.
 
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he should only go x58 if he plans to get more gfx's
otherwise its just a waste of money when he get the same performance on the p55 with a 860

but sure, a used x58 would be nice
 

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I still say the 1055T, as it's a simple drop-in.
 

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But it would be soooo expensive (at least it would be new, which is how I prefer to go). I could probably get ~200 for my AMD stuff, JR has offered me 3GB of DDR3 for free, with any luck I could get a used i7 860 and a P55 board for a tad over $300, so then I guess it would only be ~125 to upgrade to i7, which isn't bad I guess (although, I much prefer to buy new because of warranty issues). I guess if I sell the AMD stuff and get JR's DDR3, an upgrade to an i7 860 shouldn't be much more than $200

Fry's had a 930 + p6t mobo for $309 - if you are patient you can pick up something new for a good price.
 

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Fry's had a 930 + p6t mobo for $309 - if you are patient you can pick up something new for a good price.

Nearest Frys is several hundred miles, I'd go there for that savings, but my parents wouldn't accompany me (and I have a learner's permit, not a full license)

This would be my main rig, I'd sell off the AMD stuff to fund it. I really think I'll get an i7, but I won't be ordering for a couple weeks at least, so maybe I'll change my mind
 
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