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ive had to deal with something like this before, luckily i had a freind that was a lawyer. so i had him call them and take them to court for slander and false accusations, they pulled all claims rather quickly. easy fix back them into the corner
 
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Im thinking the police must have some form of integrated soliciting service for officers, or at least they can check for any other reports of fake claims associated with this.
 
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Dont they have Registered mail in the UK or something similar. Here in the states if it was a legal issue it would come as registered mail requiring a signature when received. That is when you would know a lawyer or some sort of suit is being filed against you. Personally I wouldn't tell/write them anything because you are feeding them information. If it was serious they can come knock on my door. Say you tell them you are not at that ISP. Well if they want it wouldn't be that difficult to find your IP and then they say it was an error etc. Not to mention they then know they have someone hooked or concerned that they might get some settlement from. just my opinion though.
 

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We have a stupid law in this country when it comes to that. You only have to have posted it for the letter to count. I mean wtf!
 

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Thanks for that link Alex - looks like Ill be writing a letter / saying that I havent downloaded this game, it isnt my IP address, and that I would at least be willing to pay the retail value of the game if it makes them happy.

if you don't do it don't offer to pay ( don't know the law in U.K but in canada if you said your willing to pay your guilty)
 

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Wow dude...

dont pay them a damn cent, that sounds like a straight scam. Not your IP address, you dont have the game, just some scammer tryin to make a quick buck.

I would just ignore them.

btw use Rapidshare/megaupload next time :p
 
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Im talking to a close friend now, he says one of his college friends has recieved a similar letter last week some time, and hes 95% sure its a scam being passed around virgin / NTL users.
 

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Still better to reply denying the claims. From what I can tell its a legal loop hole scam.
 
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Used exactly the same word as the one Davenport Lyon sent me months before, claiming me downloaded Race 07 (I was still playing Race without knowing there is a new one.) and with wrong IP, note the phrase 'The Work' is used thoughout, it is the same on the Davenport one, ignore it, they won't do anything. That letter hits old pensioners claiming them downloaded GTA:Vice City illegally, lol.
 
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And people wonder why the Pirate Party is the third biggest party in Sweden (counting members, not votes). ...
 

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thank god i came across you guys !
Came home from work today and found exact same letter as Kyle.
Same company name ACS, also quoted incorrect ip address and want 695.00 in 20 days ?
Must admit i download a few programs but was very worried when reading the letter.
Listening to you guys has made me feel a little more relaxed knowing that im not on my own and 1st thing in the morning the pens coming out and a letter being returned and on its way.

Many thanks
p.s great site thx once again
 
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That's what were here for :D lol

Seriously hope i don't get one. Looks like i'll have to stop downloading 1080p porn... haha
 
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Its a plain scare tactic, unless ya have something with a court date on it. Only letters you should take seriously are directly from your isp, and at most all they'll do is ban you for a year if ya violate it. Other then that, if ya wanna write something like. Sure take me to court after your they prove your dynamic ip internet provider had that ip assigned to me at that day in time. Also will be glad to bring my $5 bargain base game in to show you. Otherwise I'm kindly throwing this letter in the trash.

Remember the only way you can truly be busted is if they raided your house and siezed your equipment, otherwise what proof do they have.
 

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i had the same letter today so i phoned virgin / ntl and he told me its a scam - they are not allowed to give out ne info .... not even to solicitors !!!! hhhhhmmmmmmmm
 
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Its a plain scare tactic, unless ya have something with a court date on it. Only letters you should take seriously are directly from your isp, and at most all they'll do is ban you for a year if ya violate it. Other then that, if ya wanna write something like. Sure take me to court after your they prove your dynamic ip internet provider had that ip assigned to me at that day in time. Also will be glad to bring my $5 bargain base game in to show you. Otherwise I'm kindly throwing this letter in the trash.

Remember the only way you can truly be busted is if they raided your house and siezed your equipment, otherwise what proof do they have.

Lol, hold it off till then. Playing FO3 in your Y-Fronts and the SAS rappel into your room and arrest you? OH YEA!
 

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Lol, hold it off till then. Playing FO3 in your Y-Fronts and the SAS rappel into your room and arrest you? OH YEA!

Nah they have to have a warrant for things like that. Its only terrorists/drug dealers, etc they dont have to.

Sorry to spoil your fantasy :p
 
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Who says i'm not a torrent using, drug dealing terrorist?
 

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Whats a dug dealer? :p
 
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You need to remember, no company would try to sue anyone for downloading 1 relatively cheap 360 game, what they do if its real is wait and keep track of you in their database and catalog every event then come after you after you amass a good sized bill, and try to stack on some fees, but this definitely sounds fake afterwards.

and I'm a little ashamed to admit but my aunt works for "those guys"
 

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Its a semi scam. Apparently they are a genuine firm, but they are praying on people, obviously working out that for every letter they send out they get so many people giving in. Easy money.

What I dont get, is that if its true about VM not giving out the info, where did they get it from? :wtf:
 
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From thin air i think alex hopefully i dont see anything like this emerge here in Oz as guarenteed the old and the non puter savvy will get sucked in big time.
 
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If my step-dad received something like this he would instantly pay it. He doesn't ask questions and has enough money to not really give a shit. I'm sure they are banking on these kind of people. :/
 
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yea definitely sounds like bullshit to me, wouldn't there be some court issue over this not a dam letter? i don't know how laws work outside the USA, but yea if i got a letter telling me i infringed then i'd use it to start the next fire at me and my buddies parties lol. Not your IP Address so therefore they don't have shit on ya. tell em to suck your donker :toast:
 
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Burn the letter, Piss on the ashes' then have a fucking beer.

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