Core 2 Clubhouse
(Moderators, do not move this thread please!)
Hey guys, this is the Core 2 Clubhouse. You don't have to join like my X1950 Series Clubhouse. Basically this is a support thread for all you guys who need help, or would like to talk about overclocking, etc. There can be members as well but this is more of a formal club.
*Members list*
Tkpenalty
Teh_f0under
Infrared
Moderator
Malware
TPU Staff
Kurash
Second in command
Tatty_one
Ex_Reven
JMS45
scoutingwraith
tigger69
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Tips for purchase:
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Core 2 Duo:
Currently the best buy for the Core 2 Duo range is the E6600, highly overclockable and 4MB of cache makes it make the Core 2 Extreme look almost a rip off. However, this is not the case as the Core 2 EE is of more higher quality. If your budget does not prevail, the E6300 is also a good buy, the E4300 (around $200 USD) if you don't have an extra $30 in your pocket. E4300 is not better than the E6300 when equivalently clocked. Core 2 Duo E6300/E6400/E4300s are for general/server use and they don't compain when gaming. Highly recommended for all you intel guys over a Pentium D/Pentium 4 unless you cannot afford it.
Something like a X6800 is just for max performance for overclocking or stock speeds.
Cooling wise, the stock intel cooler is almost silent anyway, so its rather pointless for after market coolers, unless decent overclocking, or wanting to show off your mad light show. Even though the stock intel cooler has the same appearance as the Pentium 4 ones, it uses a different bearing, and motor.
Stock cooling is substantial until you hit 2.8Ghz mark, from there on I would consider changing solutions. Nevertheless be wise in what you choose, since core 2 duos have lower heat output, and thus needing less bulkier coolers. Example:
-CNPS7700CU (Block of copper with fan on top). Its a decent cooler alright cools all the components around the mobo, however considering its weight, its a big flop. 1kg for such a tiny improvement at stock speeds is not really worth it. However its results are better for load temps. AlCU would be a better option. Nevertheless even with its weight, low height (it wont decide to rock around when you are shipping or moving it around) and its mounting mechanism prevents motherboard damage.
-G-Power Gigabyte/Thermalright HR-01/etc (Heapipe cooler with small aluminium fins, low weight). A good cooler, very light and well below the max weight for intel/amd, these are the best types of coolers to look out for, providing good performance and not being too bulky.
-CNPS9700AT/CNPS9700NT/CNPS9500/Thermalright Ultra 120/92 (heatpipe cooler with extemely large aluminium/copper fin array)
Solid performance, however the weight of these coolers is back up to the CNPS7700CU. Note that these are "towers " and care must be taken upon shipping as the coolers's high height and weight make them reasonate more when being shipped or moved.
UPDATE: Those planning on purchasing the E4300 and E4400 PLEASE hold onto your cash, intel are phasing out both processors E4500 that has been released. the E4500 has a 11x Multi... YES 11x Multi, which means from 200 to 266 fsb will give u 2.926Ghz... Core 2 Extreme speeds.
Quad Core:
Quad Cores these days are becoming mainstream, wait for Q3 (266 USD). Atm its too expensive for it to be substantially worth it. For businesses it would be a good choice as it would be better to have one Quad processor than two Dual cores. This does not make them crap, they are very powerful, except no applications utilise this extra power. Server owners should look into that. Overall great but, not practical at the moment, give it another few months and us dual core'ers will be wailing.
This time, stuff stock cooling and get a Freezer 7 or something. Honestly these run really HOT, stock cooling is not as good as the CPU cooler itself is different to the ones found on Pentium Ds/Core 2 Duos. Stock cooling barely keeps it running at a safe temperature.
Celeron 4xx: (Core 2 Celeron)
Very cheap and overclockable, however low cache is a bit of a let down. As cheap as a P4 now but offers much more performance, Celeron 4xx are the ones to look out for. Boasting low clock speeds, and a low multi as well as less cache, it produces very little heat in comparison with the Pentium Dual core, or the Core 2 Duos. In this case Intel uses a finely lapped and polished aluminium cored cooler, which is a good cooling solution, max overclocks top off around 2Ghz due to the low multiplier of 6x
Pentium Dual Core 1MB Cache: (Core 2 Pentium)
E2140, aka Core 2 Pentium, is very cheap being around $90, 7x multi, Allendale with 1mb disabled.
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(Moderators, do not move this thread please!)
Hey guys, this is the Core 2 Clubhouse. You don't have to join like my X1950 Series Clubhouse. Basically this is a support thread for all you guys who need help, or would like to talk about overclocking, etc. There can be members as well but this is more of a formal club.
Update: 7/3/2007
Clubhouse formed:
Rules:
-Does not need a core 2 architecture CPU to join
-Must have more than 50 posts
-Libel is not acceptable
-Spamming is not acceptable
-Does not need to have a C2D Sigpic used, I know some guys are in other clubhouses
*Members list*
Tkpenalty
Teh_f0under
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6300
O/C: 2.325Ghz@+.05v (faulty voltage sensors cannot be trusted)
FSB: 1344mhz
RAM: 420mhzx2
Multi: 7x
Speedstep: OFF
STATUS: Full working order.
Cooling: CNPS7700CU
Extra info: Well before I got it I considered getting a Pentium D Presler 65nm, it was relatively cheap, at around $230AUD, then I saw the Core 2 Duo and decided. After looking at user experiences I decided it was a "yes". So thus I decided it would be my next CPU. It forced me to change all my CPU and motherboard choices.
Infrared
Moderator
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6400
OC: 3.68ghz@1.48v
3.68ghz cpu 1.48v
FSB: 460mhz (1840mhz)
RAM: 920mhz 1:1 4-4-3-8 2.4v
Cooling: Swiftech Apogee waterblock.
From tkpenalty: 2.4v....
Malware
TPU Staff
MB: ASUS P5B Deluxe
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6300 L632 1.325Vcore
O/C: 3004MHz @ 1.275V BIOS(1.248V idle/load)
RAM: 429x2 @ CL5-5-5-15 @ 2.1V
Multi: 7x
Speedstep: OFF
STATUS: 24/7 OC.
Cooling: Noctua NH-U12 + NF-S12 Fan
Kurash
BXtremeCPU: Core 2 Duo E6300
OC: 3.36Ghz
FSB: 480x4
Vcore: 1.32 (stock)
Temperatures: 33c Idle/54c Load
Second in command
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6300
OC: 3.0Ghz
STATUS: Working, off OC
COOLING: Stock...
Comments from Tkpenalty: Something like a Arctic Cooling Arctic Freezer or Thermalright CPU cooler would do great, overall keep in mind how much stress you are putting on the motherboard. If you have a full Aluminium case... this is even more important, the case MAY deform.
Tatty_one
Official TPU Grandad
CPU: E6600
OC: 3.85Ghz (ON A STOCK COOLER?)
Ex_Reven
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6400
OC: 3.0Ghz
STATUS: Working
Cooling: unknown
JMS45
From AMD 2 Intel
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6600
OC: 366fsb.
scoutingwraith
Lappy C2D
CPU: Core 2 Duo T7200
OC: N/A (why would you?)
tigger69
CPU: Core 2 Duo E6300
OC: 3.5Ghz
STATUS: Working for sure!
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Tips for purchase:
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Core 2 Duo:
Currently the best buy for the Core 2 Duo range is the E6600, highly overclockable and 4MB of cache makes it make the Core 2 Extreme look almost a rip off. However, this is not the case as the Core 2 EE is of more higher quality. If your budget does not prevail, the E6300 is also a good buy, the E4300 (around $200 USD) if you don't have an extra $30 in your pocket. E4300 is not better than the E6300 when equivalently clocked. Core 2 Duo E6300/E6400/E4300s are for general/server use and they don't compain when gaming. Highly recommended for all you intel guys over a Pentium D/Pentium 4 unless you cannot afford it.
Something like a X6800 is just for max performance for overclocking or stock speeds.
Cooling wise, the stock intel cooler is almost silent anyway, so its rather pointless for after market coolers, unless decent overclocking, or wanting to show off your mad light show. Even though the stock intel cooler has the same appearance as the Pentium 4 ones, it uses a different bearing, and motor.
Stock cooling is substantial until you hit 2.8Ghz mark, from there on I would consider changing solutions. Nevertheless be wise in what you choose, since core 2 duos have lower heat output, and thus needing less bulkier coolers. Example:
-CNPS7700CU (Block of copper with fan on top). Its a decent cooler alright cools all the components around the mobo, however considering its weight, its a big flop. 1kg for such a tiny improvement at stock speeds is not really worth it. However its results are better for load temps. AlCU would be a better option. Nevertheless even with its weight, low height (it wont decide to rock around when you are shipping or moving it around) and its mounting mechanism prevents motherboard damage.
-G-Power Gigabyte/Thermalright HR-01/etc (Heapipe cooler with small aluminium fins, low weight). A good cooler, very light and well below the max weight for intel/amd, these are the best types of coolers to look out for, providing good performance and not being too bulky.
-CNPS9700AT/CNPS9700NT/CNPS9500/Thermalright Ultra 120/92 (heatpipe cooler with extemely large aluminium/copper fin array)
Solid performance, however the weight of these coolers is back up to the CNPS7700CU. Note that these are "towers " and care must be taken upon shipping as the coolers's high height and weight make them reasonate more when being shipped or moved.
UPDATE: Those planning on purchasing the E4300 and E4400 PLEASE hold onto your cash, intel are phasing out both processors E4500 that has been released. the E4500 has a 11x Multi... YES 11x Multi, which means from 200 to 266 fsb will give u 2.926Ghz... Core 2 Extreme speeds.
Quad Core:
Quad Cores these days are becoming mainstream, wait for Q3 (266 USD). Atm its too expensive for it to be substantially worth it. For businesses it would be a good choice as it would be better to have one Quad processor than two Dual cores. This does not make them crap, they are very powerful, except no applications utilise this extra power. Server owners should look into that. Overall great but, not practical at the moment, give it another few months and us dual core'ers will be wailing.
This time, stuff stock cooling and get a Freezer 7 or something. Honestly these run really HOT, stock cooling is not as good as the CPU cooler itself is different to the ones found on Pentium Ds/Core 2 Duos. Stock cooling barely keeps it running at a safe temperature.
Celeron 4xx: (Core 2 Celeron)
Very cheap and overclockable, however low cache is a bit of a let down. As cheap as a P4 now but offers much more performance, Celeron 4xx are the ones to look out for. Boasting low clock speeds, and a low multi as well as less cache, it produces very little heat in comparison with the Pentium Dual core, or the Core 2 Duos. In this case Intel uses a finely lapped and polished aluminium cored cooler, which is a good cooling solution, max overclocks top off around 2Ghz due to the low multiplier of 6x
Pentium Dual Core 1MB Cache: (Core 2 Pentium)
E2140, aka Core 2 Pentium, is very cheap being around $90, 7x multi, Allendale with 1mb disabled.
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