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Core 2 Duo - An OC adventure

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Hello there.

I´m starting this thread to document my first half-serious OC voyage. I love hardware from around 2008 and wanted to start with CPUs that are not really relevant anymore and cheap to replace. So I decided to begin with the good old socket 775 dual cores.

Things I will try and gather some statistic data about myself include lapping/grinding the IHS, different cooling methods (air, water, chilled water) and direct die cooling (if possible and suitable). And I want to see what the C2Ds can do in benchmarks and games.
For this I would like to test them at different speeds and gather game performance and benchmark information. Due to the locked multi on most parts the OC will be done by FSB. I may use different chipsets and try to bin for a well performing mainboard + RAM combination.

This involves some time and work, which I have a limited amount to spend each week so updates may take some time but I will get there. I would like to split the data gathered in two charts, one for the different mods and cooling methods affecting temperature and overclock capabilities, plus one for the game/benchmark results.

First 'victims' will be E8500s. They are really cheap and easy to find, I just got 3 for ~3€ each. All 3 are E0-Stepping and I got one for free in C0-Stepping.



Already did some first attempt at creating an even surface. Its not been polished yet, but feels very smooth. I´m using the sandpaper on glas method. Currently still in the phase of trying out different grits, got stuff ranging from 80 - 3000 plus some fine MicroMesh up to 8000.

I want to start with air-cooling, try until the temps get to the limit, run my games/benchmarks and compare the CPU with stock IHS vs. lapped etc. and after I gathered all that information switch to water and do the same. I´m expecting that watercooling will not even be much of an improvement over a good air-cooler on these parts so after that I will try again with some chilled water (hopefully I can get the water to ~0°C or below).

For air-cooling I use my Asus V-60, an average mini-tower cooler. Just what you would have had back in the day.



Quick testfire, probing on how much more heat is generated by these C2Ds with increasing voltage. They are really tame, being 65W parts. Only 55°C load temp @4.18GHz / 1.35V. Stock everything.

Now I know many won´t really see the reason why anyone would do this in 2019, you can google all about lapping and see if or if not it makes a difference, you find tons of results for Core 2 Duo CPUs and what they can and can´t do but I want to experience it myself. Like you can google informations about every country on earth but it is still more fun to actually be there in person.


Feel free to share your own experiences and memories about the classic 'stereo'-setup of CPUs.
 

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Good times, I remember back in the day when i almost ended up with an E7400 because they were so overclockable. I ended up selling that to a friend when it arrived and getting a Q9550s that I had running a 3.9Ghz with an OCZ Vendetta 2 CPU cooler.
 
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Here's my monster C2D oc

look at that 560 fsb, ram was 1:1
 
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I've just gone through a few of these CPUs, I'll see if I can post up a few pics in a bit :)

Have you any other motherboards to try the overclocking on at all?
 
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Those were good times for overclocking.
 

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Here's my monster C2D oc

I wish i backed up a few of my benchmarks from back then. I think i may have some stowed away on photobucket somewhere but that place is cancer now....
 
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The p5b-deluxe was the best imo, could do 560+ fsb
 

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The p5b-deluxe was the best imo, could do 560+ fsb
I remember Biostar had a board that could hit 600+ FSB (I think they claimed 660) - I had one and it wouldnt even go over 440 or 460. I tried 480 one day and the board never posted again. Tpower I-45 or something.
 
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The p5b-deluxe was the best imo, could do 560+ fsb
Deluxe is for those with too much ca$h. Regular one + Vdroop pencil mod + CellShock Micron D9 :D
 
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I wish i backed up a few of my benchmarks from back then. I think i may have some stowed away on photobucket somewhere but that place is cancer now....
I have always saved this as it was close to a record
 

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I have always saved this as it was close to a record
I braved the cancer and found my pic

4Ghz-1.JPG


Turns out i was closer to 4Ghz. though it wasnt a Q9550s as i had originally thought. It might of been the revisions i was getting confused with. There were like the G1 and the E0 that were available at the time - the E0 being the more overclockable one i think...


::EDIT::

Lemme put up the memory tab too...

Memory.JPG


OCZ Reaper ram. I think they were 1066??
 
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Here's my monster C2D oc

look at that 560 fsb, ram was 1:1
That is really impressive! The FSB is incredible, but you also more than doubled the core clock.

I've just gone through a few of these CPUs, I'll see if I can post up a few pics in a bit :)

Have you any other motherboards to try the overclocking on at all?
Oh I have 3 different 775 chipsets around atm, spread across 6 boards. I have some material to choose from and I´m still hunting one of those Gigabyte Extreme boards. Might get lucky and get one, if not I´m looking into some X48 options because I have good DDR3 memory to test.
 
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To answer OP

Mine was a freezer 7 pro, with 1.57vcore. The only reason I could not go higher was the temps, the ram, board and cpu had more in them, i never got top the no post point, it was just getting too hot.

That is really impressive! The FSB is incredible, but you also more than doubled the core clock.



Oh I have 3 different 775 chipsets around atm, spread across 6 boards. I have some material to choose from and I´m still hunting one of those Gigabyte Extreme boards. Might get lucky and get one, if not I´m looking into some X48 options because I have good DDR3 memory to test.
Thank you, it was 107% iirc, only thing holding her back was temps. Was a incredible chip and a possible world record in the right hands

Deluxe is for those with too much ca$h. Regular one + Vdroop pencil mod + CellShock Micron D9 :D
The patriot pc2-7200 i used were mental, 1120+ they would do 1:1 they were these-
https://www.memoryc.com/3718-2gb-pa...mhz-extreme-performance-dual-channel-kit.html
 
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@tigger Highest I went with DDR2 was 1383MHz (this was over 10Y ago) :D
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ye boii

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best of luck!!! C2D was the most OC fun!
 
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Now that's a proper lap. Nice job! I think I heard C2Ds are soldered. If so you might want to leave the lids on. Pretty much pointless to delid a soldered CPU. I'd intended to have a 775 OC adventure myself one day. But I've sort of abandoned the idea at this point. But not totally. I actually got to thinking about again a few days ago as a matter of fact. But I talked myself out of it one more time. I've got a Celeron D 360, a Pentium E2180, and a C2D E8600 ready to go if/when I ever get around to it.
 
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Oh, Core 2's. Those were the days. My first ever "serious" gaming desktop has a Core 2 Duo at 2.6 Ghz, I can't remember the model name though. E8200 I think.

Anyway if you're interested this guy on Youtube benches tons of super old CPUs in modern games, Including some pentium Extreme Editions on Netburst (oh dear god), and Legendary Athlon 64
 

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Nice job on the lapping. Almost never see that anymore...
 
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Now that's a proper lap. Nice job! I think I heard C2Ds are soldered. If so you might want to leave the lids on. Pretty much pointless to delid a soldered CPU. I'd intended to have a 775 OC adventure myself one day. But I've sort of abandoned the idea at this point. But not totally. I actually got to thinking about again a few days ago as a matter of fact. But I talked myself out of it one more time. I've got a Celeron D 360, a Pentium E2180, and a C2D E8600 ready to go if/when I ever get around to it.
Thanks, and yes most are soldered. I won´t do the whole 'heating up and praying I don´t fry it' thing for no gains. I think I read tho that the E7200 - E7600 are not soldered, and the E4300 - E4600 are not either. Will see.
As for your own project, just do it when you feel like it. Fun can´t be forced but I can tell you, once the system is all set and running and you get to the fun bit of fiddling around with bios settings until it suddenly all comes together and works really can suck you right in.
 
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I got given a Gigabyte P45T Extreme by a mate who upgraded, did the LGA 771 mod and overclocked the Xeon X5450 to 4GHz @ 1.45v paired with 4GB HyperX 1600MHz DDR3. Easily, one of my fav platforms after X58. Too bad Oc'ing these days is not as fun as before where you had to do lots of adjustments to get things stable.
 
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Processor i7 3770K @ 4600MHz 1.3v
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#23
The p5b-deluxe was the best imo, could do 560+ fsb
P5B Deluxe was a good board. I had the wifi model. The Rampage Formula was much better, especially with dual cores. I had an e8600 es that I ran between 44-4500mhz and benched at 48-4900mhz. That board/cpu combo was good for 550fsb-575fsb 24/7 no sweat, and I topped out at 600fsb because my ram wouldn't do more than 600mhz (ddr2 1200).
 
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#24
I've a couple 775 boards here still, I'll see if I can grab some pictures out along with the CPUs :)
 
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#25
Oh I just realised, @agent_x007 is that your YT channel I linked?? "Compatibility Madness"?

I love it. Very interesting to see how the old hardware manages. Nice work^^
 
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