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Core i7-3770K Retail Boxes Pictured, TDP 95W, Overclocks Worse Than Sandy Bridge?

If IVB overclocks worse than SB, would you still buy it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 29.1%
  • No

    Votes: 56 70.9%

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He couldn't if he wanted to because I don't go around bashing Intel.

And to answer the main question of the thread, I was planning on upgrading to Ivy Bridge this year, but these TDP stuff is worrying me slightly.
No,! You just go around BASHING.... >>>>>> Period :wtf: :slap:
 

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Alright boys stay on topic;)
 
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IVB has been publicly tested for months, now. See http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?59-Intel

Doesn't clock as high but given the increased IPC its still a faster platform. No surprises. I'm not sure where the problem is.

Temps are high because its an ultra-low leakage design. Also, despite higher temps nobody has reported overly hot heatsinks. I wouldn't worry about the temps. I would, however, worry about overvolting it too much. Low-leakage chips usually crap out much faster with too much voltage.

Cheers,
 

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Here's a good, informative 3750 bench thread at XS; it's not all woe and disappointment there...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280352-Large-Ivy-Bridge-3570K-vs-Sandy-Bridge-comparison.

Summarize - Improvements from Sandy bridge to Ivy Bridge

3DMark 11.
3.4Ghz - 0.75% Improvement
4.5Ghz - -2.27% Improvement

3DMark Vantage
3.4Ghz - 3.47% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 1.69% Improvement

CineBench
3.4Ghz - 4.41% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 5.35% Improvement

SuperPi 32M
3.4Ghz - 3.37% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 2.01% Improvement

Wprime 1.55
3.4Ghz - 4.76% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 3.60% Improvement

Wprime 2.09
3.4Ghz - 4.71% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 3.06% Improvement

Handbrake
3.4Ghz - 7.39% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 5.38% Improvement


Testing is done on this hardware:

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at its current pace AMD won't have Sandy Bridge performance until like 2014.
Feeling optimistic perhaps?
I seriously doubt that will happen in many, many years.
 
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I'm beginning to think I wasted my time waiting for IVB when I could've got a 2600k or 2700k for same perf and less heat!
 
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I wonder if they will be binning the better chips for Xeons? This would explain the 95w TDP for the desktop parts.
 
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I had an E1 3570k for a week.
Decent on air at 4,5ghz, max 4.6ghz on air with temps in 80's.

Saw an ES 3770k on XS - 4.8ghz air just like on Tweaktown with temps in the 90's.

Makes me wonder if the better chips are binned for 3770k's or if the 3570k's are failed 3770k's.
 

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It's funny how Trickson, the local Intel fanboy has disappeared when there is Intel related bad news?

But he makes an appearance in every AMD thread that pops up just to bash Bulldozer.
Yeah funny. Hey I am going through a fucked up time right now, My wife kicked me out and I have no internet unless I go to my sisters and I have not even been able to hook up my computer because my MOTHER said NO, I sure hope my DAD can work that out for me, He tells me he will. So when things get better for me I will be back to talk shit like always till then piss off!
 
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I think I'm fine with my 2600K (and my unlocked 6950 2GB) for a while, as I've yet to find anything bottlenecked by it. Maybe I'll upgrade when LGA 1150 or whatever arrives next year. :)
 
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I had an E1 3570k for a week.
Decent on air at 4,5ghz, max 4.6ghz on air with temps in 80's.

Saw an ES 3770k on XS - 4.8ghz air just like on Tweaktown with temps in the 90's.

Makes me wonder if the better chips are binned for 3770k's or if the 3570k's are failed 3770k's.
I hope you are correct and they aren't binning for Xeons.
 
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This current rig was built bang for buck in mind with max one graphics card. Now things changed and I no longer have same kind of budget limitation so what was previously out of my reach started to look quite a bit tempting and can't do that with this mATX board. Which one would you get: Z77 board or equally priced X79 board?

It is easy to see why the X79 platform starts to look tempting.

Trying to figure out what is the best way to spend that additional money. One GTX 690 now to this rig and mATX is no longer a problem, maybe SB-E + SLi...?
Z77 all the way!
 

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Z77 all the way!
I'm perfectly happy with my SB-E and X79 and when IVB-E comes around it *should* be on LGA2011 and work on X79 with a BIOS update, but that is way down the road. Also if you go with a 3770k or 2600k/2700k you're hitting the top that 1155 has to offer, at least X79 has more room for expansion and upgrades for down the road.
 
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I'm perfectly happy with my SB-E and X79 and when IVB-E comes around it *should* be on LGA2011 and work on X79 with a BIOS update, but that is way down the road. Also if you go with a 3770k or 2600k/2700k you're hitting the top that 1155 has to offer, at least X79 has more room for expansion and upgrades for down the road.
I thought you had a 2500k?, weren't you asking what to buy z77 vs x79?
x79 too expensive in my opinion :), for what i need is a waste of money.
 
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Just in case anyone was curious, A Chiphell user reported these numbers on a retail E1 3770k on a M5G and Thermalright Archon:

In summary
* TDP is at 95 W.
* Packaging is exactly the same as Sandy Bridge.
* Thermalright Archon is used as CPU cooling.
* At 3.9 GHz, full load temperature is 62 C (1.16 V).
* At 4.6 GHz, full load temperature is 78 C (1.25 V).
* At 4.8 GHz, full load temperature is 89 C (1.4 V).
* At 5.0 GHz, 1.47 V is needed to POST. BSOD as soon as Windows is booted.
* Stable with 2400 1T RAM set up. Can POST but BSOD at 2600. Corsair CMT16GX3M4X2133C9 2 x 4GB.
* Temperature drops really fast once in idle.
* System pulls 51.79 W at idle and 116.26 W at full load (AIDA64) with stock clock speed.
* System pulls 74.12 W at idle and 146.69 W at full load (AIDA64) with 4.6 GHz.
* System pulls 86.41 W at idle and 183.77 W at full load (AIDA64) with 4.8 GHz.

Looks like 4.6-4.7ghz might be the target speed to aim for.
 

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I thought you had a 2500k?, weren't you asking what to buy z77 vs x79?
x79 too expensive in my opinion :), for what i need is a waste of money.
Until you want a faster CPU, more memory, or you want to run triple crossfire/sli without an issue, then you realize you already have 4 sticks of memory and a 2600k. At least with a 3820, I have options to go up and none to go back. :cool:

Also check my specs, I have an SB-E 3820 with a Asus P9X79 Deluxe. I've never owned an SB chip, just SB-E. I've built i7 SB systems for people, but that is it.
 
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There's this review...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-3770k-i5-3570k_9.html

"In any case, the frequency potential of the new Ivy Bridge processors turned out to be below our expectations. We didn’t manage to overclock them even to the same heights as the previous-generation Sandy Bridge. So, we can state that the overclocking potential of the newcomers has become worse, which may have been caused by the reduction of the geometrical die size of the new Ivy Bridge."
 
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I don't see a reason to buy this chips over SB other than SB being EOL'ed.

"If you already have a Sandy Bridge 2500K/2600K/2700K, stick with it as there is hardly any tangible reason to fork out US$212-$313 for a minor upgrade."
 

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I don't see a reason to buy this chips over SB other than SB being EOL'ed.

"If you already have a Sandy Bridge 2500K/2600K/2700K, stick with it as there is hardly any tangible reason to fork out US$212-$313 for a minor upgrade."
It almost makes you wish you got a Sandy Bridge E. The price of a 2600k + 3770k would be about the same as a 3930k, right? So everyone who got an IVB upgrade from SB... let me just take a quote from Mr. T.

"I pity the fool!"
 
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