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Here's the first picture of Intel's next-generation Core i7 HEDT (high-end desktop) processor, codenamed "Haswell-E." Based on Intel's latest "Haswell" micro-architecture, the chip will be Intel's first HEDT processor to ship with eight cores, and the first client CPU to ship with next-generation DDR4 memory interface. In addition to IPC improvements over "Ivy Bridge" that come with "Haswell," the chip integrates a quad-channel DDR4 integrated memory controller, with native memory speeds of DDR4-2133 MHz; a PCI-Express gen 3.0 root complex with a total of 40 PCI-Express lanes, and yet the same DMI 2.0 (4 GB/s) chipset bus.

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I hope the X99 will be cooler than the current X79, I had couple of issues with X79 during hot Indian summers.
 
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I'm waiting out so i can build my new gaming rig on X99 its so long to wait though.
 
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Dammit. I was really hoping that Broadwell would support DDR4 and SATA Express. Oh well, I guess my 2500k will still be kicking until Skylake is out. Haswell-E seems a little too much for what I use my PC for (gaming). But kudos to Intel for finally breaking out of its shell and introducing 8-core CPUs. It's about time.
 
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Now if only the software on games could take advantage of that! Unfortunately my 3570k can do just fine, and should do just fine for a long time. Still what a beast of a CPU!
 
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Finally I can go back to HEDT. 8 cores and DDR4 sounds worthwhile.
 

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I'm sure people with the money will buy this to fap over, and to make others jealous on forums. It's nice but is it really needed for the average user or gamer, I don't think so.
 
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I'm sure people with the money will buy this to fap over, and to make others jealous on forums. It's nice but is it really needed for the average user or gamer, I don't think so.
I don't think people buy them to make others jealous. But these items fall into the category of enthusiast toys, i.e. Benchmarking achievements and also the category of, i'll buy it because I can. I bought into the socket 2011 platform and feel no need to move, so there is also a longevity premium.
 
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it will be to damn expencive
 
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For as long as I can remember, this is the longest time frame I have ever seen Intel stay on the same socket for any particular platform.
 
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For as long as I can remember, this is the longest time frame I have ever seen Intel stay on the same socket for any particular platform.
I believe this was because AMD has somewhat "give up" competing intel on there extreme CPU's ( I think).
 
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Finally. Too bad that the enthusiast platform is coming out so much later than the mainstream.

I give props to Intel for finally jetisoning the SATA II ports entirely. I'm definitely in the boat with everyone criticizing X79 for being one heck of a hot PCH, but that might be because its based on 45 nm technology. Rectifying that shouldn't be a problem, assuming Intel actually wants to push some boundaries...

I hope X99 brings some dignity back to the high end market. X79 was, speaking on my opinion only, a fail for the high-end. It didn't push any boundaries, it only added extra cores and some connectivity. Those that could use it obviously saw an improvement, but it could have been renamed to CE (Crunchers Edition), and been more accurate than HE (High End).
 
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I don't think people buy them to make others jealous. But these items fall into the category of enthusiast toys, i.e. Benchmarking achievements and also the category of, i'll buy it because I can. I bought into the socket 2011 platform and feel no need to move, so there is also a longevity premium.
Yer but i also had a X79 platform i went to haswell because i love new hardware it gives me some thing to do haha, But do i need it no its a want more than a need its more the feeling of your system raping any program or game out there yes i know x79 can do that already but there always that step more.
 

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I like how people refer to skt2011 as "X79" when the chipset is actually only a small part of the entire platform. Is it perfect? no. Is it adequate? yes. Consider for a moment that skt2011 was designed for servers. More often than not, servers won't use integrated I/O. Dedicated RAID cards amongst other hardware you may need for whatever it will be doing, favors having more PCI-E lanes than anything else.

I've personally haven't had any issues with the X79 over heating, so I can't relate. I can say that it is pretty nice and convenient to have 40 PCI-E lanes off the CPU though.

So much hate for a decent platform... If there is anything to complain about (at least with SB-E) is that power consumption is a bit high. Other than that, my 3820 is just as capable as any other quad-core out there at the moment. While it might not be the "fastest" it isn't a limiting factor in anything I do.

I should also add, at least SB-E/IVB-E has the heat-spreader soldered to the die. Don't need to de-lid that. That's a perk in and of itself.
 

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What's the point? It's only going to be 10-15% faster anyway.

Without AMD, the CPU industry is dead.
 
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I like how people refer to skt2011 as "X79" when the chipset is actually only a small part of the entire platform. Is it perfect? no. Is it adequate? yes. Consider for a moment that skt2011 was designed for servers. More often than not, servers won't use integrated I/O. Dedicated RAID cards amongst other hardware you may need for whatever it will be doing, favors having more PCI-E lanes than anything else.

I've personally haven't had any issues with the X79 over heating, so I can't relate. I can say that it is pretty nice and convenient to have 40 PCI-E lanes off the CPU though.

So much hate for a decent platform... If there is anything to complain about (at least with SB-E) is that power consumption is a bit high. Other than that, my 3820 is just as capable as any other quad-core out there at the moment. While it might not be the "fastest" it isn't a limiting factor in anything I do.

I should also add, at least SB-E/IVB-E has the heat-spreader soldered to the die. Don't need to de-lid that. That's a perk in and of itself.
You can blame that on Asus lol. I never had any problem with both my X79 boards i guess it just depends on the board really.
 
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Bring it on Intel, we are going to watercool the shizz out of this chip.

8 cores at 5 GHz :droool:

For as long as I can remember, this is the longest time frame I have ever seen Intel stay on the same socket for any particular platform.
This isn't really the same socket as current 2011, it's 2011-3 which has a different pinout and it's not backwards compatible.

I don't think people buy them to make others jealous. But these items fall into the category of enthusiast toys, i.e. Benchmarking achievements and also the category of, i'll buy it because I can. I bought into the socket 2011 platform and feel no need to move, so there is also a longevity premium.
There's also people like me who can actually use all cores available :toast:

I'd honestly love 12 cores on a single CPU :)
Finally. Too bad that the enthusiast platform is coming out so much later than the mainstream.

I give props to Intel for finally jetisoning the SATA II ports entirely. I'm definitely in the boat with everyone criticizing X79 for being one heck of a hot PCH, but that might be because its based on 45 nm technology. Rectifying that shouldn't be a problem, assuming Intel actually wants to push some boundaries...

I hope X99 brings some dignity back to the high end market. X79 was, speaking on my opinion only, a fail for the high-end. It didn't push any boundaries, it only added extra cores and some connectivity. Those that could use it obviously saw an improvement, but it could have been renamed to CE (Crunchers Edition), and been more accurate than HE (High End).

I thought it like you for quite a good amount of time, until I bought a RAID card with "balls" and never thought about the lack of anything in X79 anymore.

Having the entire board watercooled makes for a quiet and chilly system :toast:
 
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I haven't had any issues with my Asus P9X79 Deluxe motherboard and Core i7 3930K setup. I'm not ready to move on from it yeat but I might be ready to add an additional system when Haswell-E is released. I wonder if Intel will keep Thonderbolt off this new HEDT as well?

I actaully have a lot of questions about Haswell-E but I understand its too early for any real answers,....
 
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140W from Intel and no one bats and eye, 125 Watts from AMD and everyone goes crazy, and I am just sitting here feeling like I am taking crazy pills.
 

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140W from Intel and no one bats and eye, 125 Watts from AMD and everyone goes crazy, and I am just sitting here feeling like I am taking crazy pills.
Based on how 140W Intel or 125 W AMD CPUs overclock, I think the reactions are justified. If you run stock, then, yeah, I feel as you do.


But...clockspeed is gonna take a dive here, with 8 cores, I suspect. If not, AWESOME!!!

Hope to have more info soon. ;)
 
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This will come with an absurd price.
Maybe you'll have to pay in organs.
 
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140W from Intel and no one bats and eye, 125 Watts from AMD and everyone goes crazy, and I am just sitting here feeling like I am taking crazy pills.
Yeah, I would have posted "OMFD 'DAT TDP", but then I saw Your post. Really, wasn't Intel supposed to be the low power consumption "team" while AMD was pushing "outrageously high" TDPs like 125w?
I suppose even the Low TDP Saints Intel have problems dealing with the increasing leakage currents of their ever-shrinking process. kekeke...

Based on how 140W Intel or 125 W AMD CPUs overclock, I think the reactions are justified. If you run stock, then, yeah, I feel as you do.
Meanwhile, even though I've got a decent OC, I've got a sweet undervoltage which makes my chip run noticeably below its TDP. *shrug* I forgot what point I wanted to make.

P.S. has the availability & price of DDR4 already good?