Core2Duo E6300 - Overclocking for newbies

[Alcpone]

Ok, Im off out in a min so I will have alook for you when I get back at what youve seen! Maybe others will add some advice also

 

[rjharley]

according to what u said i think this is a better system. so u think stock cooling would be ok to start?

1 x ANTEC P150 Performance One ATX Mid Tower (W/430W NEO HE PSU) $244.95
1 x LG BLACK 18X +/- RW/RAM DVD Burner (GSA-H22NBBK) $49.00
1 x Seagate 320GB SATAII 7200.10 16MB Cache NCQ (ST3320620AS) $150.70
1 x G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK (1GB x 2) PC2-6400 (DDR2-800) $312.40
1 x TP LINK 54M Wireless PCI Card (Fixed Antenna) $33.00
1 x BLUEGEAR b-ENSPIRER 8 Channels, 24-bit/192KHz, sound card $159.00
1 x INTEL CORE 2 DUO E6300, 1.86GHz, 2MB CACHE, 1066FSB, LGA775 $275.00
1 x ASUS VW192T Blk 19inch wide, 5MS, VGA+DVI, Tilt, Speakers $299.00
1 x Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 2000 $82.50
1 x XFX 7600GT 256MB 590mhz (590/1600) 256MB XXX PV-T73G-UDD7 $203.50
1 x GIGABYTE GA-M55plus-S3G Socket AM2 $143.00

 

[rjharley]

sorry to post so many times but i tried a different website quickly and built this one for u to have a look at also... thanks a heap

Antec 'Sonata II' Mini Tower Case - Piano Black / SmartPower2.0 / 450W PowerSupply / 9 Drive Bays / Washable Air Filter / Front USB / IEEE1394 / Audio / ATX $197.80
LG 18x Super Multi Dual Layer DVD Rewriter, Black, OEM (GSA-H12N,GSA-H12NBBK) $48.60
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Processor 2MB L2 Cache 1.86 GHz Clock Speed Socket LGA775 FSB 1066MHz $287.20
Seagate 320GB SATA II 3Gb/s HDD - 7200rpm 16MB Cache 5-year warranty (ST3320620AS) $152.90
LG L1952T-SF 19" LCD 8ms 1280x1024, 1400:1, 300nits, 160/160 DVI, Tilt, Silver $295.70
Gigabyte® GA-M61PM-S2 GF6100 uATX, Dual DDRII 800, FSB2000, PCIe x 16, VGA, SATA2, LAN, 1394a $123.90
G.Skill 2GB(1GB x 2) PC2-6400 DDR2 4-4-3-5 Dual Channel (F2-6400CL4D-2GBHK) $338.40
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic - 7.1Ch 24-Bit Crystallizer/SoundFont EAX5.0 3D MIDI CMSS 3D SuperRip (ACSB4611) $197.80
XFX GeForce 7600 GT 256MB DDR3 PCI-E 590MHz/1.6GHz XXX Edition (PV-T73G-UDD7) $193.40
TP-Link 54M Wireless PCI Adapter (TL-WN550G)

$A1897 incl. shipping.

 

[Alcpone]

sorry to post so many times but i tried a different website quickly and built this one for u to have a look at also... thanks a heap

Antec 'Sonata II' Mini Tower Case - Piano Black / SmartPower2.0 / 450W PowerSupply / 9 Drive Bays / Washable Air Filter / Front USB / IEEE1394 / Audio / ATX $197.80
LG 18x Super Multi Dual Layer DVD Rewriter, Black, OEM (GSA-H12N,GSA-H12NBBK) $48.60
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Processor 2MB L2 Cache 1.86 GHz Clock Speed Socket LGA775 FSB 1066MHz $287.20
Seagate 320GB SATA II 3Gb/s HDD - 7200rpm 16MB Cache 5-year warranty (ST3320620AS) $152.90
LG L1952T-SF 19" LCD 8ms 1280x1024, 1400:1, 300nits, 160/160 DVI, Tilt, Silver $295.70
Gigabyte® GA-M61PM-S2 GF6100 uATX, Dual DDRII 800, FSB2000, PCIe x 16, VGA, SATA2, LAN, 1394a $123.90
G.Skill 2GB(1GB x 2) PC2-6400 DDR2 4-4-3-5 Dual Channel (F2-6400CL4D-2GBHK) $338.40
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic - 7.1Ch 24-Bit Crystallizer/SoundFont EAX5.0 3D MIDI CMSS 3D SuperRip (ACSB4611) $197.80
XFX GeForce 7600 GT 256MB DDR3 PCI-E 590MHz/1.6GHz XXX Edition (PV-T73G-UDD7) $193.40
TP-Link 54M Wireless PCI Adapter (TL-WN550G)

$A1897 incl. shipping.

That looks a better rig, but you cant use that mobo, its for a AMD, I had alook and found http://www.i-tech.com.au/products/14005_Gigabyte_GA_945P_DS3_V2_0_S775__945P.aspx

That looks a better gfx card aswel, if you think that will do you ok though till DX10?

You probably have decided to not build your own then I guess?

 

[rjharley]

those parts are by building my own...i realised that ordering my own parts and building it wasnt going to save me any significant amount of money anyway, like $A50 or something so im going with the shop. yea ive done some research on graphics cards and i think it should last a significant amount of time until dx10 as my friends is worse than this one and he runs what i want to run at full graphics so im not overly worried. i talked to the guy at the shop and ordered it, and talked about the overclocking capabilities. he said the RAM is quite good, it has a heatshield on it. and the motherboard is an Asrock, not sure which model but he said it should be able to handle the voltage if i notch it up a little bit.

 

[Alcpone]

those parts are by building my own...i realised that ordering my own parts and building it wasnt going to save me any significant amount of money anyway, like $A50 or something so im going with the shop. yea ive done some research on graphics cards and i think it should last a significant amount of time until dx10 as my friends is worse than this one and he runs what i want to run at full graphics so im not overly worried. i talked to the guy at the shop and ordered it, and talked about the overclocking capabilities. he said the RAM is quite good, it has a heatshield on it. and the motherboard is an Asrock, not sure which model but he said it should be able to handle the voltage if i notch it up a little bit.

Ahhhhh.... Assrock dont have voltage control or atleast the dual775-vsta I had didnt, it was ok for my D945 chip, but I got rid of it for this rig! I am suprised he didnt say that your warranty would be invalid if you cooked it? Or maybe he decided not to tell you that for that very reason! I suggest you try and find out what mobo it is for sure, but I would try and steer clear of asrock

 

[rjharley]

he said u could set voltage to low medium and high...i considered this was enough for some amount of overclocking. i wasnt going to worry about trying to get it to over 3 ghz like urs since its only stock cooling anyway

edit: asrock is the only mobo brand they have....

 

[rjharley]

just wondering, how long ago was this that u had ur asrock? reading some stuff at the moment they dont seem to be too shabby at overclocking. i think its quite a new model since it supports quad core processors.

 

[Alcpone]

I got rid of it last oct, I only had it for 6 weeks! I learned a lesson with it, but hey it maybe a better bios setup now! Im not saying the quality of it was bad, im saying the voltage control is poor, but you can let me know how you get on with it!

 

[rjharley]

yea only the january or later releases seem to have quad core support so i might be on the safe side. but thanks for all ur help and ill be sure to get back on here with some overclocking results of my own.

 

[jarcher]

cpu-z

hi there i have a core duo 2 proccessor 2.4ghz @1066fsb

while running cpu-z it shows core speed at 1596 mhz @6x multiplier and then jumps to 2397 mhz @9x multiple=ier , but the majority of the time it sits at 1596 surely this cant be correct , is there anyway of identifying the exact core speed or is the chip faulty ? any help here would be appreciated

Field Value
Computer
Computer Type ACPI x86-based PC
Operating System Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
OS Service Pack -
Internet Explorer 7.0.6000.16386 (IE 7.0 - Vista)
DirectX DirectX 10.0

CPU Type DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, 2400 MHz (9 x 267)

Motherboard Name Dell XPS 410 / Dimension 9200 (3 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x4, 1 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR2 DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN)

Motherboard Chipset Intel Broadwater P965

System Memory 2048 MB

BIOS Type Phoenix (03/23/07)

above is a brief description

thanks

jarcher

 

[Richard Shepherdson]

OC on Dual-VSTA

I've posted this question in several places and I keep getting conflicting answers.

Im new to Overclocking.

Running E6400 on 775Dual-VSTA
X1900GT PCIe 256
160 Gb SATA drive.
Vista home premium

To OC CPU I need to OC PCIe bus or the system is not stable, this is a well documented problem.

Vista will run at 300FSB with PCIe @100 but the display will corupt.

From reading around it seems that raising PCIe bus to 111 or 117 will give stable OC with no display coruption.

Will OCing the PCIe bus to 111 or 117 damage my X1900GT or will it cause problems with my SATA drive.

Some say yes, but there seems to be alot of people that are running similar rigs that seem to be having no problems.

Thanks in advance

 

[Kursah]

Richard,

I've heard you have to increase the PCI-E bus on that ASRock board, if I were you, I'd replace it with a motherboard that's meant for realistic overclocking. But if you're not interested in that, then the only successful way is to increase your PCI-E bus, which is not recommended...some say it may fry your graphics card (I haven't actually heard or seen anyone have that issue though), some say you can go as high as 120 on PCI-E bus...but that's also not recommended. 111 on the PCI-E bus is not that big of an increase, so that may be your only route if you want to OC with stability. Another thing, if you use SATA, increasing your PCI-E bus will cause errors and instability, but 111 should still be in the safe zone. 117 on the other hand is getting awfully close to that 120 mark, and I wouldn't go that high unless you feel you need to! Still I recommend a better motherboard as those motherboards aren't very good. But good luck and I hope it works out for you!

No offense, but you should have started a new thread instead of throwing this into this thread which is non related to your problem.

 

[Hard Core]

Core Speed and SpeedStep Tech...

hi there i have a core duo 2 proccessor 2.4ghz @1066fsb

while running cpu-z it shows core speed at 1596 mhz @6x multiplier and then jumps to 2397 mhz @9x multiple=ier , but the majority of the time it sits at 1596 surely this cant be correct , is there anyway of identifying the exact core speed or is the chip faulty ? any help here would be appreciated

thanks

jarcher

It also happens while running the Everest Ultimate Edition. In my case, 1.6 @6x multiplier when it's idling and 1.865 @7x multiplier when running at its full capacity (E6300 not overclocked).

I found this info in a quick research:

“It's possible that SpeedStep is kicking in. It is a technology that lowers the clock speed of your processor when it's idling or not running at its full capacity. That way it can save power (especially nice for notebooks running on batteries).

When you open a program that takes a moderate amount of CPU resources on a computer with a SpeedStep-enabled processor, the multiplier should go back to normal until the CPU usage goes down”.

SpeedStep slows down the speed of the processor when it is not in use to reduce heat and power, and when enabled, will increase or decrease the processor speed to various settings depending on the needs of the application. You can disable SpeedStep in the BIOS, but i don’t know if it worth a try…

Take care...

 

[kyutums]

Hi Hard Core. There was a new bios update for the D946GZis (bios update) last April 3, 20007. This may give you more options.

I have a D946GZIS too and plan to put a modest E4300 on it. Hopefully I'll be able to overclock the E4300 a bit.

 

[Hard Core]

hi kyutums...

Hi Hard Core. There was a new bios update for the D946GZis (bios update) last April 3, 20007. This may give you more options.

I have a D946GZIS too and plan to put a modest E4300 on it. Hopefully I'll be able to overclock the E4300 a bit.

Thanks for the tip. I'll let you know about any improvement and good luck oc'ing your E4300.

 

[csallis]

Richard,

I've heard you have to increase the PCI-E bus on that ASRock board, if I were you, I'd replace it with a motherboard that's meant for realistic overclocking. But if you're not interested in that, then the only successful way is to increase your PCI-E bus, which is not recommended...some say it may fry your graphics card (I haven't actually heard or seen anyone have that issue though), some say you can go as high as 120 on PCI-E bus...but that's also not recommended. 111 on the PCI-E bus is not that big of an increase, so that may be your only route if you want to OC with stability. Another thing, if you use SATA, increasing your PCI-E bus will cause errors and instability, but 111 should still be in the safe zone. 117 on the other hand is getting awfully close to that 120 mark, and I wouldn't go that high unless you feel you need to! Still I recommend a better motherboard as those motherboards aren't very good. But good luck and I hope it works out for you!

No offense, but you should have started a new thread instead of throwing this into this thread which is non related to your problem.

I had this issue with one of my old boards, so I got in touch with connect3d who made my ati card and asked them if it would damage the card in any way and according to them raising the PCIe bus will not damage it.

 

[Kursah]

Yeah, I've been seeing more and more people go over that 120 mark. I tried incremently up to 120 on mine, and I didn't notice any change, but wasn't about to risk going over it. D44VE cranked his up to 135 or 140 with his 8800GTS. The only thing I'm curious of is if people who push above that 120 mark have SATA drives, and if so, if things stay stable and it's actually worth it. I'm still curious to find out just how much of the PCIe bandwidth these modern graphics cards are actually using.

What did connect3d tell you about any kind of repercussions for increasing your PCIe? Anything about system stability?

I'll have to tell my tech buddies about more people on TPU going over 120 PCIe Bus speeds and having no issues, they swear it'll screw things up, and hell as long as they've been in the business they should know, but I'll definately enjoy rubbing this in their face if it is in fact truth.

Csallis have you attepted higher PCIe settings to verify this? If so, can you post a screen showing your PCIe Bus Speed? I'm very intrigued by this.

 

[csallis]

here is my exact question and response from connect3d:

[you - 29/3/2007 10:7:55] Hi Just a quick query, I would like to overclock my processor and on my last motherboard it had Untied overclocking so I could lock the PCI Express frequency at 100 but this motherboard will not let me lock this and it increases with the FSB speed. Will increasing the PCI Express frequency on the board damage my graphics card in any way? I dont want to overclock the graphics card as it is more than powerful enough and don`t want to damage it but I know my CPU has great overclocking potential. Many thanks Chris

[tony - 2/4/2007 12:44:30] Hi, as long as the overclocking does not push the temperature of the GPU or the memory too high, it should be ok, but any signs of instability or graphics errors, please contact mainboard support. Thanks Tony

I have ran mine at 118 but not for long and its now running at either 100 or 104 on this board (changed to a ds3) but can't remember which, will check on that later for you.

I have seen it go to 120 and this lost all the sata drives so I wouldn't recommend going this high but I have heard using IDE hard drives it doesnt effect it but I have not tested this as my drive is Sata

 

[Zach]

Hello!

I've just read this whole thread (all seven pages of it) and I just have one question. I have the same motherboard that you are talking about (D946GZIS), Hard Core, and I have an Intel Core 2 Duo E6600. I have been trying to overclock my CPU through my BIOS and it just isn't possible. I've tried a ton of software, too, and nothing seems to work.

So, my question to you is: Have you successfully overclocked your CPU with that motherboard yet? If so, please tell me how!

 

[gamefreak]

hello, i'm new here...
hardcore,i have the same processor and motherboard as you but i have a 512mb of ram.
did you finally get to oc your processor,if so,please give me some details....
anyone else too, if you any ideas on how to oc my computer, pls let me know...

 

[Kursah]

Welcome to TPU gamefreak, this thread hasn't been drudged up on well over a year. I would say you'd be best off starting a new thread, posting your system specs and as suggested to new users going to UserCP and filling out your System Specs, along with allowing to show them.

Reading some OC guides is a good place to start, I'm not sure of your experience, but there are quite a few great OC guides in the Overclocking and Cooling section of this forum, that and Google are your best tools. Depending on what you're planning to use your PC for, different overclocks, more ram, etc may be recommended. 2-4GB is pretty standard anymore and DDR2 is very cheap these days. But again, welcome to the forums, I'd say start a new thread, but first read through some guides, do some google searching on your components, and feel free to ask for help there is a vast amount of overclocking experience on TPU!

 

[gamefreak]

thanx Kurash, but the thing is that this is my dad's pc, and i wish to just overclock to even as little amount as possible... i cannot spend any money on it... and it is not mine so i must be careful not to damage it. i already googled it but couldn't find much on how to oc with my intel 946gz mobo..
but anyways maybe i should just take ur advise and start a new thread...
thanx again

 

[gamefreak]

My Pc specs-
HCL beanstalk
Intel Core2duo E6300 running at 1.86Ghz
Intel 946Gz express family chipset with a 128Mb GMA3000 included
512Mb DDR2 from Hyundai electronics
just thoght the brands might help...
And Kursah i'm currently reading ur guide to overclocking, i'll ask u if I hav any questions...
I use Windows Xp SP3
My BIOS version is Intel - 28(found it out through regedit)

 

[Ifoundone]

intel 946gzis oc utility...the only one i have found

check this site out...towards the bottom...pll=CV174CPAG link is <(http://74.125.93.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.tech4pcs.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t1876.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpll%2Bfor%2Bd946gzis%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-USfficial%26hs%3DHh9%26sa%3DG&usg=ALkJr)>

or google <www.setfsb.com> this is the program site. but the link provided at the tech4pcs forum is what im currently experimenting with. hope this helps