Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB DDR5 leak, Alongside Details of Kingston's DDR5 Modules

[TheLostSwede]

We've already seen some official and some leaks of various DDR5 modules and now Corsair's Dominator Platinum RGB modules have leaked. Alongside the pretty pictures, we also now know that these will be 5200 MHz/MT/s modules with a timing of 38-38-38-84 and that they'll require 1.25 V at these settings. Corsair has carried over its Capellix LEDs and iCue support, although this was pretty much expected.

Details of three sets of DDR5 memory from Kingston have also leaked and it looks like the company will have at least three main SKUs. What we're looking at is the ValueRam series with bog standard JEDEC spec at 4800 MHz with a CAS latency of 40, the Fury Beast which will feature the same clocks, but improved an CAS latency of 38 and finally a higher clocked Fury Beast SKU at 5200 MHz which a CAS latency of 40. All three SKUs will come in single 16 GB modules or 32 GB kits.



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[Arc1t3ct]

I always liked the look of the dominator series. I might have to get some for my next build

 

[TheLostSwede]

I always liked the look of the dominator series. I might have to get some for my next build

Did you just win the lottery?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Did you just win the lottery?

Dominator Ram has always cracked me up spend more for much less...... Anyone who would grab that Dom kit over the Gskill kit is a blind fanboy..... I like Corsair but for a while their DDR4 in the high end has sucked I don't expect that to change for DDR5

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[Slizzo]

Yeah, G.Skill has consistently offered better timings on their kits than Corsair for a long time for the same or better price.

And they look better, generally, IMO.

 

[Keullo-e]

Corsair has that brand premium like in many other of their products.

They still look good though.

 

[AusWolf]

I used to have a kit of Dom Plat DDR4 3200 MHz just to match my Corsair AIO (and to be able to control both of them through iCue).

Although I quite like the design, I have/had several issues:
1. They're unexplainably expensive.
2. Although the large heat spreader looks good, it's totally unnecessary - my modules never went above 32-35 °C.
3. The intensity of the red LEDs were different across the two modules, giving me a slightly pink tint on one module compared to the other at 255-255-255 (white). It's not a big deal, but considering the price...
4. They can only be controlled via iCue - this is my main reason for not buying Corsair RGB products again.

I'm wondering if there's anything new with the DDR5 series.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I'm wondering if there's anything new with the DDR5 series.

Yes, an even higher price.

 

[Object55]

we also now know that these will be 5200 MHz/MT/s modules with a timing of 38-38-38-84

Yeah I don't know, those latencies are steep

 

[Bomby569]

we also now know that these will be 5200 MHz/MT/s modules with a timing of 38-38-38-84

Yeah I don't know, those latencies are steep

compared to what?

 

[Hardware Geek]

we also now know that these will be 5200 MHz/MT/s modules with a timing of 38-38-38-84

Yeah I don't know, those latencies are steep

It's the first "high performance" kits to come out. Latencies will hopefully come down a bit while next gen speeds will rival a high end ddr4 kits is my guess and from there it will just get better. The first people to buy this will be the early adopters and the epeen crowd.

 

[Tomgang]

I used corsair ram in my old X58 system for 12 years and never one of my 6 modules ever failed.

But in my current system I switched to g. Skill trident z Royal that is also running great so far.

Hmm wunder what will be the ddr5 equivalent to Samsung B-die for ddr4.

So we can have DDR5 with high clocks and low timmings.

 

[InVasMani]

If they would just drop the frequency to 4266MHz and tighten the timings to like 16 for the entry level DDR5 kits then the new specification would look fine in relation to DDR4 and improve over time. In that same scenario against a similar 4266MHz CL16 DDR4 kit the DDR5 would still come out ahead at lower voltages and/or due to other differences like the additional bank groups and PAM4 advantage over DDR4. It would be kind of like comparing CR1 and CR2 at the same timings and frequency. Also DDR5 is better positioned to support higher capacity ram kits though there isn't really anything inherently stopping higher capacity DDR4 kits it's more just a case of memory nodes continuing to shrink over time and DDR4 being phased out for the newer standard over time so eventually capacity on the newer standard will exceed the former.

 

[AusWolf]

I'm wondering, out of those of you who want low latencies / Samsung B-die tunability, etc, how many of you actually use such memory and feel any difference compared to regular modules?

RAM overclocking is overrated, imo. I think buying a dual channel kit of the highest supported speed of your platform is just fine (at consumer level of course). Anything higher is a waste of money.

 

[Arc1t3ct]

Did you just win the lottery?

yes

 

[Prima.Vera]

It's the first "high performance" kits to come out. Latencies will hopefully come down a bit while next gen speeds will rival a high end ddr4 kits is my guess and from there it will just get better. The first people to buy this will be the early adopters and the epeen crowd.

I'm looking to rebuild by PC this or early next year, but those RAM specs are crap, you are correct.
So I'm looking into PCI-E 4.0, DDR5 and nVME drives among other things. I think going from i7 3770K and DDR3-2133 it's a big upgrade....
Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Turmania]

You do not buy dominator for its perfornance to price, that would not make any sense. Yoy buy it to fit your icue eco systen or its rgb looks. I would personally not buy it for the price but if i was invested in icue eco system, I probably would.

 

[metalslaw]

Probably have to wait a few months (13th gen intel by then), but eventually timings will come down.

I'm waiting for CL20 4000mhz ram (or better timings) before building a new system. That will be the sweetspot for price/performance for ddr5 at a guess for it's lifecycle.

 

[Caring1]

Probably have to wait a few months (13th gen intel by then)

On a new platform of course with a different socket.
Personally I think the original Dominator were the best, before all the RGB hit.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Probably have to wait a few months (13th gen intel by then), but eventually timings will come down.

I'm waiting for CL20 4000mhz ram (or better timings) before building a new system. That will be the sweetspot for price/performance for ddr5 at a guess for it's lifecycle.

I doubt that will happen.
JEDEC timings for DDR4 3200 is 22-22-22 and as far as I know, there are no DDR 3200 modules will 11-11-11 timings. The closets seems to be 14-14-14.
As such, I wouldn't expect DDR5 4000 with JEDEC timings of 40-40-40 to be able to drop to 20-20-20, but we might see 32-32-32 at some point in the future.

On a new platform of course with a different socket.
Personally I think the original Dominator were the best, before all the RGB hit.

Because of this?

 

[Caring1]

Nah, I just liked the sleek design of the ram itself.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Corsair if ddr4 is a measure early on was expensive but so was everyone's ddr4
But corsair did use sammy at first only later did they stop and start using cheapest they could find for max profit because price did not drop but reliability did drop lol

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Hi,
Corsair if ddr4 is a measure early on was expensive but so was everyone's ddr4
But corsair did use sammy at first only later did they stop and start using cheapest they could find for max profit because price did not drop but reliability did drop lol

Corsair seems to be the only company that F's up Bdie..... There are countless threads of people super exited about getting Bdie with Corsair sticks and then trying to OC them and they be worse than CJR/DJR.

 

[seth1911]

Atm known avg. will be:
DDR5 5200 by CL 40 (Gamor RGB RAM max performance)

DDR4 4000 by CL 19
DDR3 2133 by CL 9


Normal DDR5 have a few nice features like on Die ECC

Maybe my next sys will be an IGP CPU with DDR5 and on Die ECC

 

[ThrashZone]

Corsair seems to be the only company that F's up Bdie..... There are countless threads of people super exited about getting Bdie with Corsair sticks and then trying to OC them and they be worse than CJR/DJR.

Hi,
Yep they use loose timings on everything there is bad and there is terrible