CPU testing and win 11?

vega22 · Oct 14, 2021

Tbh I was wondering what @W1zzard was thinking of doing with the future CPU benchmark marks while win 11 shows such discrepancies compared to win 10.

Are you going to rerun them all everytime 11 gets an update or keep using 10 while ms finishes patching 11?

I also wonder what everyone else thinks too like. I know many jump on the latest and greatest as soon as but historically I have waited for a sp before moving up.

As for the current situation I would only run 10 or redo most modern CPU if not all on both for comparison.

ThrashZone · Oct 14, 2021

Hi,
I'm sure W1z will sooner or later
AMD looks like it took a good hit in latency on the first round of updates.
So it's always best ot create a test system and see what you come up with on your hardware

First Windows 11 Patch Tuesday Makes Ryzen L3 Cache Latency Worse, AMD Puts Out Fix Dates

Microsoft on October 12 put out the first Cumulative Updates for the new Windows 11 operating system, since its October 5 release. The company's monthly update packages for Windows are unofficially dubbed "patch Tuesday" updates, as they're scheduled to come out on the second Tuesday of each...

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Solaris17 · Oct 14, 2021

I think its ignorant to think "finishes patching 11" as the OS will receive patches until its EOL.

As for switching over, I certainly hope its soon.

Gamers that build custom rigs are a small potion of the community and modifying the OS even smaller. Machines already come with 11 pre-installed.

With the majority of consumers as a whole buying windows 11 machines during 2022 any benchmarks IMO should be based off of that.

Why would I want to read a game review that gives performance numbers based on an OS that I wont be using? Its already a stretch to disable all the windows functions in current reviews, because I doubt the majority of people are running a slew of powershell commands that modify registry entries on their cyberpower PC.

vega22 · Oct 15, 2021

Idk about that sol, I mean id hazard a guess that the real majority of gamers, and consumers are on older machines already running 10. Everyone I know that has bought a new system recently did it just to get a graphics card and soon sold the system with their old GPU inside xD

As for finishing patching. I mean more with regards to what they have found during the beta. Not the security updates and quality of life things they will no doubt add over the next 5 or 10 years.

ThrashZone · Oct 15, 2021

Hi,
W1z is probably already testing the impact of virtualize security on 11 verses off
Best to do it to though.

I just barely got setup personally I'm finding out I need more ssd's lol

R-T-B · Oct 15, 2021

Solaris17 said:
Its already a stretch to disable all the windows functions in current reviews,

Don't do that, and Windows Update will kick in during a bench, or a windefender scan, or TRIM... or whatever Windows feels like doing. And it's going to hurt someones score with no outward evidence.

A bench platform MUST be consistent, first and foremost.

CountMike · Oct 15, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
I'm sure W1z will sooner or later
AMD looks like it took a good hit in latency on the first round of updates.
So it's always best ot create a test system and see what you come up with on your hardware

First Windows 11 Patch Tuesday Makes Ryzen L3 Cache Latency Worse, AMD Puts Out Fix Dates

Microsoft on October 12 put out the first Cumulative Updates for the new Windows 11 operating system, since its October 5 release. The company's monthly update packages for Windows are unofficially dubbed "patch Tuesday" updates, as they're scheduled to come out on the second Tuesday of each...

www.techpowerup.com

Insider Developer version complete with last update

Build 22478 (RS_PRERELEASE) - Oct. 14

Does not exhibit problem with L3 cache at least not as much comparing to W10.
My Ryzen 3700x on Asus prime x470 pro and with Kingston 3600MHz Cl 16 RAM, with same settings. L3 was 10.1 latency with W10. 11.0 with W11 insider dev and 34.7 in "Regular" W11. All on same machine each on separate SSDs with triple boot.

ThrashZone · Oct 15, 2021

CountMike said:
Insider Developer version complete with last update

Build 22478 (RS_PRERELEASE) - Oct. 14
Does not exhibit problem with L3 cache at least not as much comparing to W10.
My Ryzen 3700x on Asus prime x470 pro and with Kingston 3600MHz Cl 16 RAM, with same settings. L3 was 10.1 latency with W10. 11.0 with W11 insider dev and 34.7 in "Regular" W11. All on same machine each on separate SSDs with triple boot.

Hi,
Yes the irony is why it wasn't included in the first updates package on 11 full release lol

Mussels · Oct 24, 2021

Just updating this thread: the fixes are live, and most results are back to normal.

W1zz being W1zz, i'm sure he'll test on W10 as well.

CountMike · Oct 24, 2021

I can confirm, 22000.282, latest patch (KB5006746) all benchmarks same or slightly better than on W10 (same PC) according to my saved benchmark results.

R-T-B · Oct 29, 2021

My benches look good as well. Well enough that I reloaded 11 and put the gentoo install away for now.

System Name	panda
Processor	6700k
Motherboard	sabertooth s
Cooling	raystorm block<black ice stealth 240 rad<ek dcc 18w 140 xres
Memory	32gb ripjaw v
Video Card(s)	290x gamer<ntzx g10<antec 920
Storage	950 pro 250gb boot 850 evo pr0n
Display(s)	QX2710LED@110hz lg 27ud68p
Case	540 Air
Audio Device(s)	nope
Power Supply	750w superflower
Mouse	g502
Keyboard	shine 3 with grey, black and red caps
Software	win 10
Benchmark Scores	http://hwbot.org/user/marsey99/

System Name	Ghetto Rigs z490\|x99\|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x
Processor	10900k w/Optimus Foundation \| 5930k w/Black Noctua D15
Motherboard	z490 Maximus XII Apex \| x99 Sabertooth
Cooling	oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block \| Blk D15
Memory	Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb \| Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb
Video Card(s)	Titan Xp-water \| evga 980ti gaming-w/ air
Storage	970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb \| 860 pro 256gb \| Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb\| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's
Display(s)	1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case	D450 \| Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench
Audio Device(s)	Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar
Power Supply	EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 \| 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U
Mouse	Redragon 901 Perdition x3
Keyboard	G710+x3
Software	Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3
Benchmark Scores	Are in the benchmark section

System Name	Rocinante
Processor	I9 14900KS
Motherboard	EVGA z690 Dark KINGPIN (modded BIOS)
Cooling	EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB
Memory	64GB Gskill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000 @6400
Video Card(s)	MSI SUPRIM Liquid X 4090
Storage	1x 500GB 980 Pro \| 1x 1TB 980 Pro \| 1x 8TB Corsair MP400
Display(s)	Odyssey OLED G9 G95SC
Case	Lian Li o11 Evo Dynamic White
Audio Device(s)	Moondrop S8's on Schiit Hel 2e
Power Supply	Bequiet! Power Pro 12 1500w
Mouse	Lamzu Atlantis mini (White)
Keyboard	Monsgeek M3 Lavender, Akko Crystal Blues
VR HMD	Quest 3
Software	Windows 11
Benchmark Scores	I dont have time for that.

System Name	panda
Processor	6700k
Motherboard	sabertooth s
Cooling	raystorm block<black ice stealth 240 rad<ek dcc 18w 140 xres
Memory	32gb ripjaw v
Video Card(s)	290x gamer<ntzx g10<antec 920
Storage	950 pro 250gb boot 850 evo pr0n
Display(s)	QX2710LED@110hz lg 27ud68p
Case	540 Air
Audio Device(s)	nope
Power Supply	750w superflower
Mouse	g502
Keyboard	shine 3 with grey, black and red caps
Software	win 10
Benchmark Scores	http://hwbot.org/user/marsey99/

System Name	Ghetto Rigs z490\|x99\|Acer 17 Nitro 7840hs/ 5600c40-2x16/ 4060/ 1tb acer stock m.2/ 4tb sn850x
Processor	10900k w/Optimus Foundation \| 5930k w/Black Noctua D15
Motherboard	z490 Maximus XII Apex \| x99 Sabertooth
Cooling	oCool D5 res-combo/280 GTX/ Optimus Foundation/ gpu water block \| Blk D15
Memory	Trident-Z Royal 4000c16 2x16gb \| Trident-Z 3200c14 4x8gb
Video Card(s)	Titan Xp-water \| evga 980ti gaming-w/ air
Storage	970evo+500gb & sn850x 4tb \| 860 pro 256gb \| Acer m.2 1tb/ sn850x 4tb\| Many2.5" sata's ssd 3.5hdd's
Display(s)	1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24"/ 3rd LG 43" series
Case	D450 \| Cherry Entertainment center on Test bench
Audio Device(s)	Built in Realtek x2 with 2-Insignia 2.0 sound bars & 1-LG sound bar
Power Supply	EVGA 1000P2 with APC AX1500 \| 850P2 with CyberPower-GX1325U
Mouse	Redragon 901 Perdition x3
Keyboard	G710+x3
Software	Win-7 pro x3 and win-10 & 11pro x3
Benchmark Scores	Are in the benchmark section

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CountMike

R-T-B

System Name	Pioneer
Processor	Ryzen R9 7950X
Motherboard	GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans...
Memory	64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30
Video Card(s)	XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310
Storage	2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs
Display(s)	55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display
Case	Thermaltake Core X31
Audio Device(s)	TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED
Power Supply	FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W
Mouse	Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless
Keyboard	WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps
Software	Gentoo Linux x64

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

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