CPU upgrade for christmas

[bcracer220]

Don't mean to steal a thread, but this has been driving me nuts. Is would it be better for me to (see specs at left) get an Opty 165 CCBBE, or get a new mobo, CPU, and RAM and go C2D? I saw a post in another thread and the guy said he wished he hadn't sold his CCBBE for a C2D because there wasn't too much of a noticable difference other than in benchmarks. The thing is, his system specs didn't say if his C2D was OCed or not.

whether or not his c2d is oc'd really doesnt make a difference in a gaming scenario. rarely are u limited by the processor with this generation graphics cards, and the fps increase at higher resolutions will of course be minimal. the video encoding and rendering times will be the only major difference at this point in time. however if ur not gonna be upgrading for a while go for the c2d cuz most of the benifits are yet to be seen (sse4 and raw power overall). theres a thread on xs about it u may wanna look there

 

[wtf8269]

I usually upgrade about once a year.

I'm also still eagerly awaiting the 65nm AM2 benchmarks.

 

[wazzledoozle]

I usually upgrade about once a year.

I'm also still eagerly awaiting the 65nm AM2 benchmarks.

Yeah im stuck in the same waiting game... Opty 165 or Core 2 Duo. Problem is I would have to get new ram and a new mobo along with a core 2 duo, and neither are that cheap. Sigh...

 

[wtf8269]

^Exactly. Plus I'd rather not have to relearn overclocking on a different type of chip on a different motherboard with a different type of RAM.

 

[rizzo]

^Exactly. Plus I'd rather not have to relearn overclocking on a different type of chip on a different motherboard with a different type of RAM.

Well, I will say the oc on the c2d's is pretty effortless. Long as you get one of the good oc friendly MB's and some ram that can hit 1000mhz.

 

[wazzledoozle]

Well, I will say the oc on the c2d's is pretty effortless. Long as you get one of the good oc friendly MB's and some ram that can hit 1000mhz.

That ram is uber expensive though, to the point that it would be better to get a higher model cpu and budget ram to achieve the same results (with more headroom for OC in the future when ram is cheaper).

 

[Tatty_Two]

If its to be a single core, go for the 4000+ and save yer money, the days of the single core |Opty's surpassing all others for overclocks are slowly coming to an end with more recent stepping, I know of no recent 4000+ that wont clock to 3.2Gig and beyond and for the prices they are selling for at the moment I can see no single core solution to match them. If I was in the frame for dual core I think I would go C2D, its gotta make sense, thing that bothers me about C2D is that IMO its time to be worried when a decent mainboard is gonna cost you more than the chip you put in it! Just my opinion of course.

 

[dccool879]

i got the opteron 165

 

[technicks]

I also ordered one.

 

[dccool879]

sweet. you get it from newegg? i did because it seems like their latest batch is the CCBBE stepping :]

 

[technicks]

No i ordered here in Holland. A bit more expensive. But the same as i buy in the US and have to pay the shipping.

 

[wtf8269]

That ram is uber expensive though, to the point that it would be better to get a higher model cpu and budget ram to achieve the same results (with more headroom for OC in the future when ram is cheaper).

The thing I was wondering concerning this is would it be more beneficial to get 4x1gb sticks of some still pretty good OCing RAM instead of 2x1gb of some really really good OCing RAM.

 

[rizzo]

I'd say 2x1 gigs of decent stuff. You can buy 800mhz and oc it, or buy the 1000mhz stuff. Also depends on the apps you're running. I've never needed more than 2 gigs of memory at this point.

 

[bhaskar15]

I'm just gonna get one of those conroes, they are faster than X2 4200's. And lol, they are of the same price. It runs cools, overclocks to its 2x speed.Who doesn't want it ?!?

My Next Pc:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
Gigayte Ga 965P -DS3
2x1 gb Transcend DDR2 533 mhz Ram
XG Dragon Case
19" Viewsonic LCD monitor
Microsoft Gaming Keyboard
Ati 1600XT 256 mb (Blast!, wish i had better one) :\
Is it a good config ? Please send a reply.

 

[Tatty_Two]

I'm just gonna get one of those conroes, they are faster than X2 4200's. And lol, they are of the same price. It runs cools, overclocks to its 2x speed.Who doesn't want it ?!?

My Next Pc:
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
Gigayte Ga 965P -DS3
2x1 gb Transcend DDR2 533 mhz Ram
XG Dragon Case
19" Viewsonic LCD monitor
Microsoft Gaming Keyboard
Ati 1600XT 256 mb (Blast!, wish i had better one) :\
Is it a good config ? Please send a reply.

I am not an expert by any means on C2D but I would look at your memory selection, if you intend to overclock, and lets face it these monsters overclock well, really you should be looking at faster RAM to get the full benefits.

 

[AshenSugar]

you can see my current specs to the left,
well anyways they are
amd athlon 3000+ venice (@2.615 ghz)
1 gig PC3200 ram
DFI NF4 DAGF Mobo (pretty much a non ultra, non sli dfi lanparty)
x800xl
some other things...
well i havnt really gone to newegg for a while, and then i went and processors are crazy cheap! so I was thinking i might upgrade my s939 processor. I am looking at:
AMD Athlon 4000+ San diego- 96 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103528
AMD FX-55-130 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103526
AMD Opteron 165 Denmark Dual Core-157 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103588

Which of these has the best price to performance ratio? I'm looking into a machine that will be used for battlefield 2, Counter strike 1.6 and Source, and hopefully future released games that will be awesome I'm also a Linux user, and I'd something nice and speedy for compiling. Currently, it will freeze when compiling the newest with my AMD 3000+ overclcoked or not, i'm pretty sure it's my PSU, which i just ordered a new one. However my trusty dual P3 computer can compile the latest kernel, just took around 3 hrs hehhh

opti and get urself to 2gb ram, bf2 is especly crazy for ram, grab a fortron 400watt of better psu(400 is plenty tho) dual core is the way to go, im gonna grab dual core once the new rev g2 chips are avalable for am2 , cant wait to overclock the piss out of it

 

[WarEagleAU]

Dual core is a good choice, but you wouldnt be wrong with the 55. Or get both and use the 55 as a lower end gaming, media machine

-The Eagle

 

[bhaskar15]

The C2D has shown good results in gaming too, and that means for some time AMD has lost its royal crown.
But I know they would do something about that.The E6400 is versus X2 4200+. So,gettin C2D is better, right?

 

[Ketxxx]

opteron, their incredible cpus. then sell your current cpu and graphics and youll have enough for a pretty good new vc as well

 

[bcracer220]

The C2D has shown good results in gaming too, and that means for some time AMD has lost its royal crown.
But I know they would do something about that.The E6400 is versus X2 4200+. So,gettin C2D is better, right?

dont even think twice about it, theres no comparison. my processor beats out an fx-62 at stock (cpu performance tests and everest) and then u can o/c the hell out of em. they are better than the e6600s cuz they need less volts to hit 3.2, 3.4 etc. keep in mind im using a 775 dual so the performance is a bit limited as is.

 

[bhaskar15]

hm, thanks for the suggestions. I think I will go for C2D E6400, pretty under my budget.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Dual core is a good choice, but you wouldnt be wrong with the 55. Or get both and use the 55 as a lower end gaming, media machine

-The Eagle

Wouldnt go for the 55, it's not any faster than the 4000+ overclocked and more than twice the price.

 

[dccool879]

Ok, on the opty one core is 8 degrees hotter than the other all the time. Is this a problem? temps on the hotter one (core 1 is higher than core 0) never go above 60 C.