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CPU Upgrade: P8600 to T9900

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For GTA you really need to have a quad core CPU to make it worth playing really. Its one of the worst ported games over to PC from console in the last few years. The T9900 is still a dual core, just boosted clock speeds, with cache. It will improve performance, but I think you will still be a bit disappointed in the overall performance of the laptop in that particular title.

But go for it, always fun to mess with new hardware.

Try and find a Core 2 Quad mobile processor :)

Like this, cheaper then that T9900

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-...6MH-/111053669424?pt=CPUs&hash=item19db508430
 
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^ This! A quad would serve you better overall, besides poorly threaded games/apps.
 

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the problem i see with putting a C2QM in is that its a different architecture and theres a small chance the laptops bios might not recognise it. Its something thats been going on for a long time now... OEMs lock their laptops down to only the existing hardware it left the factory with making upgrading difficult as you need to find a whitelisted bios that has been de-restricted - Its still an on going practise by many OEMs to prevent tampering.

only boutique laptop manufacturers have their bios's unlocked, but given the price you pay for one. If they didnt unlock it then it would be giving you the keys to a free Ferrari that has been completely parted out piece by piece. you're not gonna be able to drive it any time soon plus to have to shoulder the costs for the rebuild.

but if we were to pit the Q9000 head to head with the T9900, the Q9000 will take a serious beat down with single threaded apps. and most likely have some sort of adverse effect on everyday tasks and usage unless the bulk of the apps used are multi-threaded.

Being Quad core will help but i dont think it would help as much due to major difference in clock speed and 'straight line' performance of the T9900.

Im just babbling now but think of it what you will.
 
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That C2QM is good, but it's only running at 2 GHz, so yeah, single-threaded apps are gonna cry compared to the T9900/X9100.
 
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Just thrown a search on ebay, and this came out.

Still 230Mhz more than the Q9000 :cool:
 

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$45 more for a 230mhz increase over the Q9000? now that is terrible value
 
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$45 more for a 230mhz increase over the Q9000? now that is terrible value
ahh yes my bad, misread the price on the Q9000 and was with the 80$ price tag in mid.
 
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Overclocked my GPU.

Core from 597Mhz to 770MHz
GDDR3 MEM from 694 to 930MHz

~%31 OC both Memory and Core - I'm happy

3D Mark06 gives me a 5307 vs 4103 @ stock.
GTA 4 now playable @ 1024x768 all low - high texture - 40-60FPS. (no command line tweaks)

The T500 is NOT compatible with a Core 2 Quad.
That's why I was looking into a Core 2 Duo Extreme / high end model.

That GPU is sucking out some power alright. :D
 
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temps? :b
 
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Holy jesus! Dude you got some serious cooling on that laptop. My 9300GTS tops out 110ºC at stock speeds :roll:
 
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Holy jesus! Dude you got some serious cooling on that laptop. My 9300GTS tops out 110ºC at stock speeds :roll:
1st page - full copper cooler customized :)
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i'm in for pics, always like pushing older "cheap" hardware to do more than it should...

*ot* i have an hp touchsmart, older one, but it has an mxm slot on it, i'm really itching to find a 9600m to slap in it and rig/get some cooling on it. it won't be anything special, but i think its neat and would play company of heroes and the like on it...

good luck with your t9900, sounds like a good deal and you will see some improvements!
 
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Sorry, my browser didn't refresh. For $80, I'd be tempted to give it a try, as long as you feel your cooling setup can handle the bump from 25w to 35w TDP, a 40% increase. Should increase CPU performance by 25%. Hope it works out.
i agree, if you can afford the 80.00 then give it a whirl, but i also read that you can upgrade video, what is the solution in that direction.,

plus just remembert that more heat is in your future so you need to compensate for that.

i didn't see that heatsink anywhere?

keep us posted, i am interested in the results
 
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I don't think I can upgrade the video. (soldered)
Unless I manage to unsolder it and replace it with something compatible.
I can OC the crap out of it though. :D
I'm going to try to remove the MSI Afterburn limitations for OCing and see how far I can push the clocks before I reach 90*C or instability.
I also got a power adapter with more Watt today. (90W vs 65W)
Really want to push this baby.
I guess ima add some more heat pipes to the heat sink if I cut out some of the magnesium frame.
 
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wonder if you can also adjust the voltages? i've got a newer dell with amd's switchable graphics (7670m) and i can't overclock it or adjust voltages, its locked down hard i believe...

i think this is a very cool project
 
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wonder if you can also adjust the voltages? i've got a newer dell with amd's switchable graphics (7670m) and i can't overclock it or adjust voltages, its locked down hard i believe...

i think this is a very cool project

try to enable power play and plug in the laptop.
set ith to high performance in the catalyst control center when plugged in and try using
MSI afterburn [UNLOCKED] - that should do the trick.
Power play disabled even though locks the clock to max, doesn't allow any adjustment - It locks down the core.
Enabling it allows changes INCLUDING clock increase which it doesn't report to other programs.
That's why you have to run MSI afterburn [UNLOCKED MODE] and OC it.
 
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after i was thinking about it i searched a little different in google and found how to unlock msi afterburner, i'm getting ready to run some torture test to see what my temps are like, then i'm going to start playing with the clocks!

you've been an inspiration!
 
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after i was thinking about it i searched a little different in google and found how to unlock msi afterburner, i'm getting ready to run some torture test to see what my temps are like, then i'm going to start playing with the clocks!

you've been an inspiration!
Just a little part time scientist! :laugh:
 
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still in for pics, and not trying to thread jack, but success taste so sweet, just started playing, only bumping small amounts but so far 56c on my gpu with 5% bump so far...hoax32, you've just made my weekend fun!
 
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still in for pics, and not trying to thread jack, but success taste so sweet, just started playing, only bumping small amounts but so far 56c on my gpu with 5% bump so far...hoax32, you've just made my weekend fun!
glad to hear that. :)
It seems like this is the only reliable way to OC locked laptop GPU's without modding the bios.
Pics coming soon.