Crappy power supply is crappy

niko084 · Nov 2, 2007

Wile E said:
If you want to run 2 psus, just use this: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5..._Supply_Adapter.html?tl=g11c28s91&id=WhrqKGHG

No cutting and splicing involved. And pretty cheap, too.

Aww there it was... I was looking for that...

That a good option too, makes sure things are done right so you don't need to worry, make a mess etc.

Necrofire · Nov 2, 2007

Actually, I wouldn't spend any money, save for the cost in electricity, which I don't pay for anyway.

And as for that Lian-Li dual power supply thing, it's the same thing I plan on doing, but instead of an adapter, there would be stripped wire and lots of hot-glue and heat shrink tubing.

niko084 · Nov 2, 2007

Necrofire said:
Actually, I wouldn't spend any money, save for the cost in electricity, which I don't pay for anyway.

And as for that Lian-Li dual power supply thing, it's the same thing I plan on doing, but instead of an adapter, there would be stripped wire and lots of hot-glue and heat shrink tubing.

Use solder and heat shrink...

Wile E · Nov 2, 2007

niko084 said:
Use solder and heat shrink...

OMG, I just caught that.

@Necro - Do not use hot glue to hold the wires together, PERIOD! I cannot stress that enough. Use solder, as niko mentioned. If you don't have a soldering iron, borrow one, if you can't borrow one, buy the frickin adapter. The hot glue approach may not cost you anything at first, but it will cost you more in the long run, when you burn your house down.

DrunkenMafia · Nov 2, 2007

^ lol

Please don't glue wire together bro.. If you do can you post some pics of your house on fire so we can tell all our mates..

you can grab a cheap soldering iron for around $5....

Kasparz · Nov 2, 2007

zekrahminator said:
I'd get a $40 Thermaltake PurePower 430W for mobo/peripherals, and a $60 Thermaltake VGA Power Supply. Your $100 will get you all the power you need for a long time, as well as all the adapters you need to make that happen.

Or, if you were to reconsider and get a single-PSU solution, I'd get a Mushkin power supply, or if you can spring for it, a Corsair .

Is that comes from the moderator? Oh snap.
Both thermaltake PSU's are crap as it were.
Mushkin too.
Corsair is fine, but heavily overpriced.
This will handle your system with ease.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-E5150GH

Using two ATX PSU's can damage hardware or PSU's. Why? Because if you use one PSU for motherboard, all 3.3/5/12 lines will be in use. But if you use PSU just for peripherals, 3.3V line will be unused and crossloads are dangerus for PSU.

Ketxxx · Nov 2, 2007

This sucker should give you all the power you need for some time.

Kasparz · Nov 2, 2007

Ketxxx said:
This sucker should give you all the power you need for some time.

Guy with 4k posts in tech forum recommends rosewill. Oh my god, oh my.

zekrahminator · Nov 2, 2007

Tone down the insults, Kasparz...I've had the Thermaltake PSU for a little over two years now, and I have yet to hear so much as a squeal come from it.

niko084 · Nov 2, 2007

zekrahminator said:
Tone down the insults, Kasparz...I've had the Thermaltake PSU for a little over two years now, and I have yet to hear so much as a squeal come from it.

Exactly, although it may not be a super quality psu, the fact comes down, you buy one strong enough and take care of it, don't push on it too hard, they will under normal circumstances run for years...

I have an Antec Smart Power 2 450watt that is now 4 years old, had 1950pro's, a 1950xt, 2600xt now...

I also have an old Antec 350 watt *16amps on the 12volt*, running a e6420, 4x512mb ddr2 sticks a 2600xt, 3 hard drives, 2 *yes 2* sound cards, and about 6 fans, that psu is about 6 years old. The poor thing lacks so much power with this setup that the computer will reboot if you try to run 3dmark06, and yet the voltages are perfectly stable, and no squeals...

*It's getting replaced but goes to show, just because its not a top line psu doesn't mean its crap, companies don't make products "To fall apart".

Kasparz · Nov 2, 2007

zekrahminator said:
Tone down the insults, Kasparz...I've had the Thermaltake PSU for a little over two years now, and I have yet to hear so much as a squeal come from it.

Thermaltake Toughpowers that are built by Channel Well Technology are good. All other are CRAP CRAP CRAP.
Niko, Antec Smart Power 2 are built by CWT too, but it have Fuhjyyu caps. These are very heat sensitive caps(read-crap) and Antec had 10% RMA rate with these PSU's. Lets say, thats just RMA rate, real failure rate ir much bigger. Now Antec moved to Seasonic as OEM and these are very strong PSU's.
I have seen and have expierence with lot more than your two Antecs and to be honest PSU is first thing in PC to care. PSU feeds your components and weak PSU can blow up all your system.

niko084 · Nov 2, 2007

Kasparz said:
Thermaltake Toughpowers that are built by Channel Well Technology are good. All other are CRAP CRAP CRAP.
Niko, Antec Smart Power 2 are built by CWT too, but it have Fuhjyyu caps. These are very heat sensitive caps(read-crap) and Antec had 10% RMA rate with these PSU's. Lets say, thats just RMA rate, real failure rate ir much bigger. Now Antec moved to Seasonic as OEM and these are very strong PSU's.
I have seen and have expierence with lot more than your two Antecs and to be honest PSU is first thing in PC to care. PSU feeds your components and weak PSU can blow up all your system.

No thats true, and myself I have had experience with probably near 300-400 Antec Psu's over the past around 10 years.

Kasparz · Nov 2, 2007

I'm working in very big computer shop as RMA guy and i know failure rates of this and that.

zekrahminator · Nov 2, 2007

Kasparz said:
Thermaltake Toughpowers that are built by Channel Well Technology are good. All other are CRAP CRAP CRAP.
Niko, Antec Smart Power 2 are built by CWT too, but it have Fuhjyyu caps. These are very heat sensitive caps(read-crap) and Antec had 10% RMA rate with these PSU's. Lets say, thats just RMA rate, real failure rate ir much bigger. Now Antec moved to Seasonic as OEM and these are very strong PSU's.
I have seen and have expierence with lot more than your two Antecs and to be honest PSU is first thing in PC to care. PSU feeds your components and weak PSU can blow up all your system.

Now, that's a much better/harder to argue with response than "Is that comes from the moderator? Oh snap.
Both thermaltake PSU's are crap as it were."

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I think that all the recent TT purepowers are made by CWT, based on a lot of positive Newegg reviews of said late TT purepowers. Sorta like how Sapphire used to suck eggs when it came to making video cards, they changed their formula, and make really good cards now.

But yeah, for a steady dose of reliable power, I'd go for Corsair, FSP...etc

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Necrofire · Nov 4, 2007

No, oh god no. I was never going to use hot glue to hold the wires together. I have a soldering station, and I have enough experience soldering to know what to do.

The hot glue would be for insulation, or more as a separation between wires. I have heatshrink, but I don't like wires actually touching whether or not they have insulation.

So, solder, heatshrink, then hot glue for separation.

Wile E · Nov 4, 2007

Necrofire said:
No, oh god no. I was never going to use hot glue to hold the wires together. I have a soldering station, and I have enough experience soldering to know what to do.

The hot glue would be for insulation, or more as a separation between wires. I have heatshrink, but I don't like wires actually touching whether or not they have insulation.

So, solder, heatshrink, then hot glue for separation.

Phew! I feel a LOT better now. :roll:

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